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Very interesting. I didn't know the Nets were moving to Brooklyn, either. I guess they will be the New York Nets?

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So Nets to Brooklyn. Jets to Manhattan. Devils to Newark.

The Giants are going to be the only Meadowlands tenants?

give it time...I bet the G-Men move to Manhattan if (and when) the Jets do

They are not, the Giants a few years ago extended their lease with the State of New Jersey to play at Giants stadium through 2012 and are expected to extend it further. On top of that the Jets are not getting a stadium in Manhattan. That plan is a pipe dream and has no chance of getting approved. The residents of the West Side are very powerful and will sue to prevent the stadium. Both the Jets and Giants will be in the Meadowlands for years to come.

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So Nets to Brooklyn. Jets to Manhattan. Devils to Newark.

The Giants are going to be the only Meadowlands tenants?

give it time...I bet the G-Men move to Manhattan if (and when) the Jets do

They are not, the Giants a few years ago extended their lease with the State of New Jersey to play at Giants stadium through 2012 and are expected to extend it further. On top of that the Jets are not getting a stadium in Manhattan. That plan is a pipe dream and has no chance of getting approved. The residents of the West Side are very powerful and will sue to prevent the stadium. Both the Jets and Giants will be in the Meadowlands for years to come.

change the name then. new jersey giants sounds good i think.

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well if NYC gets the 2012 olympics, the jets will move there...right???

Excuse me for going a bit off topic here, but if NYC does get the Olympics in 2012, and if, just for the sake of argument, that the Yankees do decide to move out of Yankee Stadium, it would be very interesting if Steinbrenner pulls a Ted Turner and makes a deal to get the Olympic stadium converted into a baseball stadium. That is assuming that the Yankees 1) don't make major renovations to and decide to leave Yankee Stadium, or 2) already have another deal in the works to move or is already moved into another stadium. Of course, I am pretty well aware of the fact that the Yankees probably will not move out of Yankee Stadium any time soon. I just wanted to put out what could be a possible scenario.

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well if NYC gets the 2012 olympics, the jets will move there...right???

But that's the reason why New York is not going to get the olympics. The stadium will not get built, even if by some chance New York does get the Olympics. If New York, as expected, doesn't get the olympics then the stadium has no shot. The West Side residents will block the stadium, they blocked the West Side Highway for years citing it would endanger this rare fish. And this time they have Cablevisio/msg backing them.

The Jets could build a stadium in Queens (the area in which the core of their fanbase is located) for half the price with no roadblocks. They would still get the Super Bowl, Final 4, concerts, and probably the Olympics (as it would probably help them as then the Stadium would be closer to the village). The only difference is the Jets owner won't have the prestige of have a stadium in Manhattan.

As for the Giants they are fine in NJ. That's where most of their fanbase is and historically has been. They have a 25 year waiting list for tickets, and their lease with the state calls for upgrades. They don't need to change their name as the Meadowlands is about 5 miles from NYC.

The Newark deal is great for the Devils as it keeps them in NJ. They will get most of the total revenue from the arena including all non-devils events. The thing that kept the previous deals from being complete was that they called for state aid. The state wouldn't approve it as they own the meadowlands and a new arena would put CAA out of buisness. This deal calls for the money Newark recieved from Newark Airport to be used to fund the arena.

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Excuse me for going a bit off topic here, but if NYC does get the Olympics in 2012, and if, just for the sake of argument, that the Yankees do decide to move out of Yankee Stadium, it would be very interesting if Steinbrenner pulls a Ted Turner and makes a deal to get the Olympic stadium converted into a baseball stadium. That is assuming that the Yankees 1) don't make major renovations to and decide to leave Yankee Stadium, or 2) already have another deal in the works to move or is already moved into another stadium. Of course, I am pretty well aware of the fact that the Yankees probably will not move out of Yankee Stadium any time soon. I just wanted to put out what could be a possible scenario.

The Yankees announced plans this summer to build a new Yankee Stadium next to the old one. They would pay for the stadium themselves and the stadium would pay for improvement in the infrastructure .

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well if NYC gets the 2012 olympics, the jets will move there...right???

Excuse me for going a bit off topic here, but if NYC does get the Olympics in 2012, and if, just for the sake of argument, that the Yankees do decide to move out of Yankee Stadium, it would be very interesting if Steinbrenner pulls a Ted Turner and makes a deal to get the Olympic stadium converted into a baseball stadium. That is assuming that the Yankees 1) don't make major renovations to and decide to leave Yankee Stadium, or 2) already have another deal in the works to move or is already moved into another stadium. Of course, I am pretty well aware of the fact that the Yankees probably will not move out of Yankee Stadium any time soon. I just wanted to put out what could be a possible scenario.

With teh decision fopr teh IOC to announce the host city in months, it is far too late for NYY to try to get the Olympic Stadium baseball ready. Field of Schemes has daily updates on what NYJ is doing to "put makeup on a smelly pig" of a deal. NYC will not get the bid anyway. As for giants stadium, there have been studies and focus groups on more suites and a true club level, replacing the current Mezzaine Level.

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Great news. This is the type of spark that hopefully will initiate a more complete and badly needed rehabilitation of Newark. And I agree with UW - the more I read about the opposition to the west side stadium the more I feel it's not going to happen. Mayor Bloomberg is firmly behind it at this point but he's starting to feel some political pressure and if he ultimately feels the issue could damage his reelection chances then he'll likely either have to take a softer stance on it or withdraw his support altogether at which point you can officially write it off.

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So Nets to Brooklyn. Jets to Manhattan. Devils to Newark.

The Giants are going to be the only Meadowlands tenants?

give it time...I bet the G-Men move to Manhattan if (and when) the Jets do

They are not, the Giants a few years ago extended their lease with the State of New Jersey to play at Giants stadium through 2012 and are expected to extend it further. On top of that the Jets are not getting a stadium in Manhattan. That plan is a pipe dream and has no chance of getting approved. The residents of the West Side are very powerful and will sue to prevent the stadium. Both the Jets and Giants will be in the Meadowlands for years to come.

those residents will change their mind if they get the olympics, everyone changes their mind with enough money. Besides the government has a nifty tool called emminent domain. What that is is for the people who dont sell, the government will declare the area blighted and then buy it at market value. Once the government does that, you can't fight it. Without the Olympics that probably wont happen, but if new york gets the olympics, I definitely see that happening.

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Besides the government has a nifty tool called emminent domain. What that is is for the people who dont sell, the government will declare the area blighted and then buy it at market value. Once the government does that, you can't fight it. Without the Olympics that probably wont happen, but if new york gets the olympics, I definitely see that happening.

Actually, not quite. The government does have emminent domain, but they can only buy land if it is in the PUBLIC's BEST interest, not the goverment's best interest. It's a lot harder to move a whole neighborhood and expensive. There's been numerous court cases in other states about this, and nearly everytime the court rules against the government. So you can fight it. Otherwise, governments would be building stadiums left and right like nobody's business.

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Might as well hold up on the deal since when hockey comes back they can play at the golden dome since nobody will care anymore. By the time 2010 rolls around.

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