rock55choc Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I wasnt sure whether to post this under concepts or sports in general, but I decided here bc this isnt a logo or uniform concept. I have been tweaking this plan for about a year now - it started just after the huge shift in realignment that took place last season. One rule I held myself to was that if a conference already consisted of 12 teams with a 2-division format, then I would not change the makeup of those conferences. So without further ado ... here's the plan.ACCATLANTIC Clemson Wake Forest Florida State Boston College North Carolina State Maryland COASTALGeorgia TechVirginia TechMiami (FL)North CarolinaDukeVirginiaBIG EASTRED LouisvilleSouth FloridaCincinnatiRutgersTemple*Massachusetts*BLUESyracuseConnecticutPittsburghWest Virginia Army*Navy*BIG XIINORTHNebraskaColoradoIowa StateKansasKansas StateMissouriSOUTHTexasTexas A&MTexas TechBaylorOklahomaOklahoma StateCONFERENCE USAWESTTulsaHoustonTexas El PasoTulaneSouthern MethodistRiceEASTSouthern MississippiMarshallEast CarolinaAlabama BirminghamMemphisCentral FloridaMACWESTNorthern IllinoisToledoBall StateEastern MichiganCentral MichiganWestern MichiganEASTMiami (OH)AkronOhioBowling GreenKent StateBuffaloMWCMOUNTAINWyomingNew MexicoColorado StateUtahBrigham YoungAir ForceWESTNevada*San Diego StateBoise State*Texas ChristianNevada Las VegasSan Jose State*PAC 12 NORTHWashington Washington StateOregon Oregon StateStanfordCaliforniaSOUTHArizona Arizona StateCalifornia Los AngelesSouthern CaliforniaFresno State*Hawaii*SECWESTMississippi StateArkansasLouisiana StateAlabamaAuburn Ole MissEASTGeorgiaFloridaTennesseeSouth CarolinaVanderbiltKentuckySUN BELT WESTNorth Texas Louisiana LafayetteLouisiana MonroeUtah State*Idaho*New Mexico State*EASTFlorida International Florida AtlanticTroyArkansas StateMiddle Tennessee StateLouisiana Tech*SUPER 12 (Former Big 10)WESTMinnesota Wisconsin IowaIllinoisNorthwesternNotre Dame*EASTOhio State MichiganNichigan StatePenn StateIndiana Purdue* = Team in new conferenceI would propose that the cap on D1A be permanently set @ 120. I chose U Mass to be the 120th member because as I recall they won the D1AA title within the past decade, finished last season with a 7-4 record in the A-10 and fits well geographically into the Big East football conference. Let me know what you think of the plan. C and C would be greatly appreciated. If you can think of a better name for the new Big Ten that is better than mine, I'd love to hear your suggestions. Thanks again for your time guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonManningRocks Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Not a bad idea. I actually wouldn't mind, though, seeing Nevada and UNLV in the Pac-10....think about it, you could have two Washington teams, two Oregon teams, two Northern Cali teams, two Southern Cali teams, two Arizona teams and 2 Nevada teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclopsis Joe Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Having two Nevada teams in the Pac-10 would kinda not make it the Pac-10 I don't speak for democrats, democrats don't speak for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMcD Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Having two Nevada teams in the Pac-10 would kinda not make it the Pac-10 Arizona has two teams in the Pac-10 and they are farther from the oceanI would love this idea. One problem is tradition. Notre Dame does not want to join a conference. They can't play all of their rivals.-Also I would have 8 conference games. 5 in your division, and 3 in other division that alternate every year.-Playoffs, champion in every conference makes it plus wild card (2nd place team)from 6 upper-teir conferences (big 12, super 12, pac 12, sec, acc, big east) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzcut Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I wasnt sure whether to post this under concepts or sports in general, but I decided here bc this isnt a logo or uniform concept. I have been tweaking this plan for about a year now - it started just after the huge shift in realignment that took place last season. One rule I held myself to was that if a conference already consisted of 12 teams with a 2-division format, then I would not change the makeup of those conferences. So without further ado ... here's the plan.ACCATLANTIC Clemson Wake Forest Florida State Boston College North Carolina State Maryland COASTALGeorgia TechVirginia TechMiami (FL)North CarolinaDukeVirginiaBIG EASTRED LouisvilleSouth FloridaCincinnatiRutgersTemple*Massachusetts*BLUESyracuseConnecticutPittsburghWest Virginia Army*Navy*BIG XIINORTHNebraskaColoradoIowa StateKansasKansas StateMissouriSOUTHTexasTexas A&MTexas TechBaylorOklahomaOklahoma StateCONFERENCE USAWESTTulsaHoustonTexas El PasoTulaneSouthern MethodistRiceEASTSouthern MississippiMarshallEast CarolinaAlabama BirminghamMemphisCentral FloridaMACWESTNorthern IllinoisToledoBall StateEastern MichiganCentral MichiganWestern MichiganEASTMiami (OH)AkronOhioBowling GreenKent StateBuffaloMWCMOUNTAINWyomingNew MexicoColorado StateUtahBrigham YoungAir ForceWESTNevada*San Diego StateBoise State*Texas ChristianNevada Las VegasSan Jose State*PAC 12 NORTHWashington Washington StateOregon Oregon StateStanfordCaliforniaSOUTHArizona Arizona StateCalifornia Los AngelesSouthern CaliforniaFresno State*Hawaii*SECWESTMississippi StateArkansasLouisiana StateAlabamaAuburn Ole MissEASTGeorgiaFloridaTennesseeSouth CarolinaVanderbiltKentuckySUN BELT WESTNorth Texas Louisiana LafayetteLouisiana MonroeUtah State*Idaho*New Mexico State*EASTFlorida International Florida AtlanticTroyArkansas StateMiddle Tennessee StateLouisiana Tech*SUPER 12 (Former Big 10)WESTMinnesota Wisconsin IowaIllinoisNorthwesternNotre Dame*EASTOhio State MichiganNichigan StatePenn StateIndiana Purdue* = Team in new conferenceI would propose that the cap on D1A be permanently set @ 120. I chose U Mass to be the 120th member because as I recall they won the D1AA title within the past decade, finished last season with a 7-4 record in the A-10 and fits well geographically into the Big East football conference. Let me know what you think of the plan. C and C would be greatly appreciated. If you can think of a better name for the new Big Ten that is better than mine, I'd love to hear your suggestions. Thanks again for your time guys! Hey rock55choc, I post often at Collegesportsinfo.com with full scale realignemts of D-I. In fact I made a plan here on this board. I'll post it later on. The CCSLC's resident Geelong Cats fan. Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends. Sounds like something from a Rocky & Bullwinkle story arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winghaz Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Having two Nevada teams in the Pac-10 would kinda not make it the Pac-10It would when The Big Earthquake hits and sends California into the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Well if you make it where every team had to be in a conference Notre Dame would go into the Big East because that's what conference they are in for every other sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilliesPhan1325 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I think it could work. But a couple things stick out to me. Notre Dame would probably go in the Big East for the reason jkrdevil said and the Big East would be really weak besides Pitt, WV, and Louisville. Other than that I think it is a great layout. "The 0-2 pitch... SWING AND A MISS! STRUCK HIM OUT! THE PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES ARE 2008 WORLD CHAMPIONS OF BASEBALL!" J M yoU wish you had a Duke Dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I Like it I would love to see ND in the Big Ten www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Having two Nevada teams in the Pac-10 would kinda not make it the Pac-10 Then splitting would make it uneven because Reno is way more north then Las Vegas BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlefan68 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I don't think Fresno State would meet Pac-10 academic standards, but maybe I think too highly of those standards or too lowly of Fresno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 If UMass had ever actually made the move to Division 1-A football that they had so often talked about... if Temple could have shored up their football program... and if three schools could have been convinced to make the jump... well, here's the Big East football conference that I would have liked to have seen:Boston CollegeConnecticutMarylandMassachusettsPenn StatePittsburghRutgersSyracuseTempleVirginiaVirginia TechWest VirginiaGeographically, a pretty "tight" conference... just the Northeast and upper Mid-Atlantic. A mix of major media markets (Boston, Baltimore-Washington, Pittsburgh, Metro New York-New Jersey, Philadelphia) alongside mid-size and smaller markets. A mix of traditionally strong programs and emerging schools. Some great regional rivalries. Hell, even the other original basketball schools (Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's and Villanova) would have fit neatly into the geographic footprint once the hoops season tipped-off.That would be a fun conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I Like it I would love to see ND in the Big Ten Me too. Then we could pound Notre Dame once a year instead of just once in a while. On topic, I don't like it at all. I think D-1 football is fine the way it is. No need to realign anything. Â Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfiji Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Although Notre Dame is in the Big East for other sports I think they have a better fit in the Big 10. Geographically they are in Big 10 country. Plus three of their biggest rivals (Michigan, Mich St, and Purdue) are all in the Big 10. The only reason they are in the Big East is because the Big East wanted any team they could and allowed them to be a football independent. As for UMass. There might be other A-10 schools theat would be better. On a pure competition standpoint then Deleware would be awesome. For a size/market standpoint then Richmond, Villanova, and Northeastern (the latter would give them back the Boston market they lost when BC left) Plainsman Parking Lot. Auburn Baseball Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 To keep non-football conferences comparable, I'd rather see Villanova or Georgetown promoted to Div. I-A so that the Big East would have to expand their already large 16-team basketball conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock55choc Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Thanks footballfiji !! The reasons you gave for ND being included in the Big Ten (better geographical fit and able to keep more traditional rivalries) were the deciding factors in me deciding to place them there.As for options other than U Mass as a 120th D1A member and Big East delegate, I had never really considered Delaware, I only knew them for producing Rich Gannon and wearing Michigan knockoff helmets. I did however consider both Richmond and Villanova. I could see the advantages of taking both Richmond and Villanova. The reason I decided to place U Mass in the Big East was to give the market of the state of Massachusetts back to the Big East - after losing BC. Just to reiterate a question - can anyone think of anything better than SUPER 12 for the new name of the conference if the Big 10 were to ever go to 12 teams. But heck, watch them probably add a 12th team and STAY the Big 10. LOL Thanks for the input and resonses guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith03 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 since all the states except iowa board one of the great lakes (MN WIS, MI, IL, IN, OH and Penn)I would call it the Big Lakes Conference I believe there is already a conferece called the great lakes conference plus using the term Big is note to the history of the Big Ten conference , but itprobably would stay Big Ten anyway. Just say NO to gray facemasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodAtFirstBite Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Move Utah & BYU to the Pac-12Move Fresno State & Hawaii back to the WAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbearz Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 PAC12?? hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHoJoe Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Move Penn State from Big 10 to Big EastMove BC and VT from ACC to Big EastMove U South Carolina and UGA from SEC to ACCMove Army from Independent to Big EastKeep Navy and Notre Dame independentTHis IS Geographically Correct! BRING BASEBALL BACK TO MONTREAL!!!! MON AMOURS SIEMPRE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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