CJR Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Cross-posting this from my own site since more people read here...If an FSN Detroit promo ad is to be believed, it looks like the Red Wings will unveil a new banner style for their retired numbers when Steve Yzerman's #19 goes into the rafters on Tuesday. The ad showed a banner that looked like this:As opposed to the current ones visible at http://www.detroithockey.net/history/retired.php (and in my sig).I've thought from the beginning that the Wings will be redesigning the banners and moving them around, since the current ones aren't in a position where a new banner can be raised from the ice surface to join the rest of them (they're off to the side, over seats).This design is the same as the one used for banners celebrating the team's "lesser" accomplishments, so I wonder if those banners might be removed altogether.If this is the new design, I wonder if the "C" will just be for Yzerman or if it will be included on the banners for Howe, Lindsay, Delvecchio and Abel, who also served as captain. I also wonder if the same version of the Winged Wheel would be used on all banners or if it would reflect the logo used during the era in which the player was a Red Wing. FantasyHockeySim.com || DetroitHockey.Net || DetroitHockey.Net FHL || cjr.dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRenesis Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 If they do change the banner style to the one you showed I think it would be an improvment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braden Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I have to admit I like the dates on the bottom of the old ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingedwheel Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I like the newer version. If only they could add the years to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJR Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 I like the dates, too, but I do like this design. Unless they're keeping all the old "lesser" banners, in which case it's just too much.Even if they don't redesign the banners, I hope they raise new ones that are bigger than the current ones, the same size as all the other banners the team has. FantasyHockeySim.com || DetroitHockey.Net || DetroitHockey.Net FHL || cjr.dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterform Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Old is better it's somewhat of a standard for retired jersey banners to emulate the back of the jersey. Makes sense when everything is considered. DEATH TO REEBOK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Boy Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I don't think you need the logo on there. If there is a red and white banner hanging in the rafters of Joe Louis Arena, I think it is pretty obvious that it is for the Red Wings. I think replacing the logo with the years of service is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Vertically arched letters would be a nice touch. I think the dates really clutter things up (esp. for the players with multiple stints), and would be difficult to read if you were in the arena. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatSleepJeep Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 VAL would be key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Meningocele Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 The existing ones are markedly better IMO, modeled after the jersey backs. But on one hand, it would seem lacking for Yzerman's in particular to not include a C, as he's been known simply as "The Captain" for decades. No other captain in team history has been so strongly identified with the role. On the other hand, you can't very well stick a C on something resembling a jersey back. Maybe the best solution is the rumored new model, with a healthier sized C where the logo is. The C in the top corner seems way too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJR Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 I got confirmation tonight that there will be new banners for the first five retired numbers. No word on what they look like, just that the work was done. Also couldn't confirm that they'll be raised in a different place. For all I know, they won't re-raise the existing numbers at all, they'll be up in the rafters waiting for #19 already. FantasyHockeySim.com || DetroitHockey.Net || DetroitHockey.Net FHL || cjr.dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyersHockey1967 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 But on one hand, it would seem lacking for Yzerman's in particular to not include a C, as he's been known simply as "The Captain" for decades. No other captain in team history has been so strongly identified with the role.That's true. I can't even remember who the captain was before Yzerman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail2theVctrz Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 But on one hand, it would seem lacking for Yzerman's in particular to not include a C, as he's been known simply as "The Captain" for decades. No other captain in team history has been so strongly identified with the role.That's true. I can't even remember who the captain was before Yzerman! Danny Gare from '82 to '86. -Rob Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 In '97 they changed the past cup banners to look like the new one, and they did tonight with the retired number banners.Although they are nice, I am not a fan of the change. I almost seems like Illitch wants everything to reflect that it happened on his watch. Dan Romeo MI PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I just watched the banner raised and it looks like the old ones, just added the logo in the left bottom and the C at the top. Clean and classy. I also liked the sweaters worn by the Wings during the warmups celebrating Yzerman's career. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I just watched the banner raised and it looks like the old ones, just added the logo in the left bottom and the C at the top. Clean and classy. I also liked the sweaters worn by the Wings during the warmups celebrating Yzerman's career.Throwing in his Junior A jersey was a cool touch. PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old School Fool Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Close, but no dice.. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I like it. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL FANATIC Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I don't really like Red Wings things, but......this is a good change. Clean and classy. Includes the logo and keeps the idea of the back of the jersey. They added the arched script, and it also includes the years, which is a cool touch, and the years look better the way they are applied here. It appears to me these banners are longer than the others.Was Yzerman's the only banner with the 'C' even though they were all re-done?The more I look at it, the more I am undecided about the placement of the Wing though. Kinda seems like they just stuck it there, and I think it could be dated shortly. I think, perhaps, a smaller wing that fit entirely in the white stripe might be a better choice.Still, it's definitely an upgrade.Anybody know where in the rafters these are hanging? Same as the old? JUSTIN STRIEBEL | PORTFOLIO | RESUME | CONTACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJR Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 In '97 they changed the past cup banners to look like the new one, and they did tonight with the retired number banners.Although they are nice, I am not a fan of the change. I almost seems like Illitch wants everything to reflect that it happened on his watch.Except that Ilitch has raised retired numbers before and he didn't change the design then. He also kept the old "League Champions" banners.Anybody know where in the rafters these are hanging? Same as the old?They're a little closer to center ice and are actually over the ice surface. The old ones were over the seats. Specifically, they're directly across from Section 219, Row 16, Seat 14, 'cause that's where I was and I could only see the almost non-existant side of them as they were being raised. Not sure if that's their permanent placement, though. The Cup banners were also moved, seemingly to make room for lighting, so the reitred numbers might have just been raised to a convenient location and will be put somewhere more permanent later. FantasyHockeySim.com || DetroitHockey.Net || DetroitHockey.Net FHL || cjr.dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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