buildingmaint Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I heard on ESPN today that it was Pete Incaviglia's fault not "Wild Thing"Mitch Williams for the Phillie's losing to the Blue-jays in game six in 93. It seems that Incaviglia was playing way to low when Joe Carter hit the 3 run homer .Williams said that " Incaviglia was not playing high enough , he should of been playing about 15' higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 This goes back to the thing that annoys me the most. Why are people so reluctant to take the blame for their own fu*kups? I hate it when people will toss others under the bus to avoid admitting they were the problem On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Dude, Mitch should be owning up to it. It's the only reason people remember him nowadays anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly97flyer Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Dude, Mitch should be owning up to it. It's the only reason people remember him nowadays anyway.Not around here, Mitch is a hero. The way he performed in 93 was one of the biggest reasons for the Phillies success. At that point, he, and the rest of the Phils bullpen was shot, and the fans know that. He gets a standing ovation anytime he's introduced in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildingmaint Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Guys , Incaviglia was not playing high enough ,notice the word HIGH.How can you play higher ,as in altitude .Mitch was kidding around, he owned up to it in 93 took all the questions admitted he left down his team. The Incaviglia remark was tongue in cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I once heckled Mitch Williams at a Newark Bears game www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakwood Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Why blame someone when you can just praise Joe Carter for hitting the homerun in the first place. It's not like it was a suprise that Joe could hit a homer, he had over 30 in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Dude, Mitch should be owning up to it. It's the only reason people remember him nowadays anyway.Not around here, Mitch is a hero. The way he performed in 93 was one of the biggest reasons for the Phillies success. At that point, he, and the rest of the Phils bullpen was shot, and the fans know that. He gets a standing ovation anytime he's introduced in public.And yet I went to a Halloween party in Philadelphia in October 1993 and saw three different people in Mitch Williams costumes . . . one with a bullet wound and two with arrows through the head. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Dude, Mitch should be owning up to it. It's the only reason people remember him nowadays anyway.Not around here, Mitch is a hero. The way he performed in 93 was one of the biggest reasons for the Phillies success. At that point, he, and the rest of the Phils bullpen was shot, and the fans know that. He gets a standing ovation anytime he's introduced in public.And yet I went to a Halloween party in Philadelphia in October 1993 and saw three different people in Mitch Williams costumes . . . one with a bullet wound and two with arrows through the head.They're call badges of honour....What was Pete Incaviglia supposed to do? Jump? You might as well put John Kruk in that position. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshawaggie Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 like Bob Eucker says in "Major League" (I?II?).."He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch THAT one."I knew what you were sayin there, buildingmaint. I kind of did a double take when reading. "Higher? wait, what? Ohhhhh..(chuckle). @josh_j12 CFA- Fargo Bobcats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I once heckled Mitch Williams at a Newark Bears game I'm sure your mother was so proud of you. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Why blame someone when you can just praise Joe Carter for hitting the homerun in the first place. It's not like it was a suprise that Joe could hit a homer, he had over 30 in the season.Yeah, Carter isn't any Thomson. It's great to be young and a Giant! - Larry Doyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Dude, Mitch should be owning up to it. It's the only reason people remember him nowadays anyway.Not around here, Mitch is a hero. The way he performed in 93 was one of the biggest reasons for the Phillies success. At that point, he, and the rest of the Phils bullpen was shot, and the fans know that. He gets a standing ovation anytime he's introduced in public.You live in a different Philadelphia then I do. I'll admit that he has been re-accepted, but by no means is he considered a hero, and while he does get some applause and even some respectful cheers, he gets his fair share of boos when he's introduced at appearances.I didn't see hear this comment first hand, but it seems clear that it was in jest. 15' higher? That team was full of drunks, (alleged but probable) steroid users, and probably recreational drug users. I doubt it was a serious comment. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Not around here, Mitch is a hero. The way he performed in 93 was one of the biggest reasons for the Phillies success. At that point, he, and the rest of the Phils bullpen was shot, and the fans know that. He gets a standing ovation anytime he's introduced in public.You live in a different Philadelphia then I do. I'll admit that he has been re-accepted, but by no means is he considered a hero, and while he does get some applause and even some respectful cheers, he gets his fair share of boos when he's introduced at appearances.s, and probably recreational drug users. I doubt it was a serious comment.well, there is a Philadelphia, Mississippi.... I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly97flyer Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Vet, you gotta remember what town were in here. Theres always that small group of a$$holes that boo Mitch. Same type of people that give our fan base and city a bad name. How would you consider Mitch to that 93 team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaminD Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 If you had bet me a week ago which story would've gone over the heads of more people - the Hank Aaron "missing home runs" story, or Mitch Williams blaming Inky for "not playing 15 feet higher" - I'd have bet the Aaron story, hands down. Even accounting for the fact that it ran in The Onion, for chrissake.[loudspeaker]LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION!Mr. Williams deadpanned that Incaviglia should have been playing higher; that is, he should have been elevated above the playing field. Had he been able to do so, he might have caught Mr. Carter's home run, thus preventing the Blue Jays from winning the 1993 World Series in the fashion that they did. However, as Mr. Incaviglia is subject to the same laws of gravity that all Americans are - even in Canada, mind you, what with their goofy-a$$ metric system and round bacon - he could not, in fact, play left field any higher. Thus, Mitch Williams was employing a humor device commonly referred to as "sarcasm". In fact, he accepts the fact that he threw the fatal 83-mph "fastball" that ultimately ended the '93 Series. He also knows that one pitch did not define his career, and that the Phillies would not have even been in the Series without his 43 saves that year.Thank you citizens; go back to whatever you were doing. [/loudspeaker] "Start spreading the news... They're leavin' today... Won't get to be a part of it... In old New York..."In order for the Mets' run of 12 losses in 17 games to mean something, the Phillies still had to win 13 of 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Vet, you gotta remember what town were in here. Theres always that small group of a$$holes that boo Mitch. Same type of people that give our fan base and city a bad name. How would you consider Mitch to that 93 team?The same type of people that give our fan base a bad name? That's pretty funny coming from the poster who seems to chime in on nearly every NHL thread and instigates trouble by nonsensically bashing the Sabres (among other things.)Personally, I don't boo Mitch. I do think he was a major part of the Phillies getting to the WS, but IMO (and this is just IMO) he was more concerned with the "Macho Row" image that they had going on that year and didn't seem to care about working hard and improving his game. There were several periods during the season where he struggled, and he always had control problems - but he never did anything to try to correct them. Johnny Podres was fed up with him because of his lack of work ethic. I think he was too into the "wild thing" thing.I don't hate him, but I don't care for him either. A hero he is not. Fregosi should never have pulled Roger Mason - there, I said it. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Not around here, Mitch is a hero. The way he performed in 93 was one of the biggest reasons for the Phillies success. At that point, he, and the rest of the Phils bullpen was shot, and the fans know that. He gets a standing ovation anytime he's introduced in public.You live in a different Philadelphia then I do. I'll admit that he has been re-accepted, but by no means is he considered a hero, and while he does get some applause and even some respectful cheers, he gets his fair share of boos when he's introduced at appearances.s, and probably recreational drug users. I doubt it was a serious comment.well, there is a Philadelphia, Mississippi....And a Filadelfia (Philadelphia), Republic of Paraguay, South America. It's great to be young and a Giant! - Larry Doyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronChefShark Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I once heckled Mitch Williams at a Newark Bears game I'm sure your mother was so proud of you.oh you're not an ass though, are you.hypocrite US state flag concepts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly97flyer Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Vet, you gotta remember what town were in here. Theres always that small group of a$$holes that boo Mitch. Same type of people that give our fan base and city a bad name. How would you consider Mitch to that 93 team?The same type of people that give our fan base a bad name? That's pretty funny coming from the poster who seems to chime in on nearly every NHL thread and instigates trouble by nonsensically bashing the Sabres (among other things.)Personally, I don't boo Mitch. I do think he was a major part of the Phillies getting to the WS, but IMO (and this is just IMO) he was more concerned with the "Macho Row" image that they had going on that year and didn't seem to care about working hard and improving his game. There were several periods during the season where he struggled, and he always had control problems - but he never did anything to try to correct them. Johnny Podres was fed up with him because of his lack of work ethic. I think he was too into the "wild thing" thing.I don't hate him, but I don't care for him either. A hero he is not. Fregosi should never have pulled Roger Mason - there, I said it.What, Im not allowed to bash a team that I dont like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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