Nhl wins worth 3 points?

[nitroseed]

I noticed on the Daily Quickie on ESPN that NHL Commish Gary Bettman may be considering changing the point value of a win from 2 to 3. Has anyone heard anything else about this? And, if this goes through, what kind of effect do you think it will have on the league?

[NJTank]

Ugh can we fire him now?

He is ruining hockey

[slapshot]

That might not be a bad idea. You get the same points in OT if you tie or lose. A win is one extra point. May as well make it worth the while to try and win the game.

Too many teams play the trap in the last few minutes of a tie game, knowing they're guaranteed at least one point. Maybe more incentive to go for the win is what the league needs to make it more exciting.

[CC97]

It's a good idea, because it will make overtime even more exciting.

But

It would shatter the record books, it's a drastic change.  Teams will be getting 140 point seasons, all teams will have over 100 points every season.

I dont know.

[-kj]

It's much like what FIFA did before the 1998 World Cup, and made it standard across its member leagues.

I'm not sure I like it, but it does bring up interesting scenarios.

Ties could still be worth 1, OTLs could still be worth one, but make OTWs worth 2 instead of 3.

Eh, I still prefer the 2-0-1 system, though I don't overly mind 2-0-1-1 so much.

[zer0dotcom]

You know whats wrong with teh NHL? THE COMMISIONER WILL NOT JUST TLEAVE IT ALONE!

None of these solutions he has put into place wil have an immeadiate effect...you gotta give them some time. He's full of patch work solutions to a problem that isn't that big. Hockey is not broken, the guy running it is crazy.

[habsfannova]

Commandment 11:WINS 2 POINTS, TIES 1 POINT, NO POINTS FOR LOSING!

[JQK]

Wins - 2

Losses - 0

Ties - NONE. If no winner at the end of overtime, go to a shootout. (of course there would be no shootout in the playoffs...)

[Saintsfan]

This is a toughy, 3 points for a win works well in soccer, and could work okay in hockey, but I dunno, it doesn't really seem all that necessary, how often does an NHL team play for a draw anyway? I wouldnt have thought it would be easy to in hockey, were invariably scores are a little higher than in soccer.

[See Red]

I've essentially given up with hockey.  The only time I find it worth my time to see is International (olympics, mostly) with the larger rinks and shortage of commercials.  I used to be a hockey fanatic... but now I'm through.  One would have to think there's a reason it gets worse ratings in the US than the now defunct XFL did.

[zer0dotcom]

Lately, the scoring in some games make it seem alot like soccer... a not draw rule would be interesting. that way teams would have to play, eliminate sitting back and accepting a single point.

I still can't believe that teams get a point for losing...this isn't kiddy camp where everyone gets a prize so no feelings are hurt...

[Puckguy14]

Don't forget, if Bettman gets his way, the rink is gonna look like white ice with tiny little circles and thicker lines that can be seen from Mars!

Time to get him out of here.

[DEAD!]

Here's a solution .... eliminate overtime!

[Discrim]

This is a toughy, 3 points for a win works well in soccer, and could work okay in hockey, but I dunno, it doesn't really seem all that necessary, how often does an NHL team play for a draw anyway?

about as frequently as in soccer, more or less. it's common for most of the league to have at least 10 ties, as shown here:

Team Div. GP W L T Pts GF GA PIM

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New-Jersey Devils Atlanti 82 46 20 10 108 216 166 0

Philadelphia Flyers Atlanti 82 45 20 13 107 211 166 0

New-York Islanders Atlanti 82 35 34 11 83 224 231 0

New-York Rangers Atlanti 82 32 36 10 78 210 231 0

Pittsburgh Penguins Atlanti 82 27 44 6 65 189 255 0

Detroit Red Wings Central 82 48 20 10 110 269 203 0

St.-Louis Blues Central 82 41 24 11 99 253 222 0

Chicago Blackhawks Central 82 30 33 13 79 207 226 0

Nashville Predators Central 82 27 35 13 74 183 206 0

Columbus Blue Jackets Central 82 29 42 8 69 213 263 0

Ottawa Senators Northea 82 52 21 8 113 263 182 0

Toronto Maple Leafs Northea 82 44 28 7 98 236 208 0

Boston Bruins Northea 82 36 31 11 87 245 237 0

Montreal Canadiens Northea 82 30 35 9 77 206 234 0

Buffalo Sabres Northea 82 27 37 10 72 190 219 0

Colorado Avalanche Northwe 82 42 19 13 105 251 194 0

Vancouver Canucks Northwe 82 45 23 13 104 264 208 0

Minnesota Wild Northwe 82 42 29 10 95 198 178 0

Edmonton Oilers Northwe 82 36 26 11 92 231 230 0

Calgary Flames Northwe 82 29 36 13 75 186 228 0

Dallas Stars Pacific 82 46 17 15 111 245 169 0

Anaheim Mighty Ducks Pacific 82 40 27 9 95 203 193 0

Los-Angeles Kings Pacific 82 33 37 6 78 203 221 0

Phoenix Coyotes Pacific 82 31 35 11 78 204 230 0

San-Jose Sharks Pacific 82 28 37 9 73 214 239 0

Tampa-Bay Lightning Southea 82 36 25 16 93 219 210 0

Washington Capitals Southea 82 39 29 8 92 224 220 0

Atlanta Thrashers Southea 82 31 39 7 74 226 284 0

Florida Panthers Southea 82 24 36 13 70 176 237 0

Carolina Hurricanes Southea 82 22 43 11 61 171 240 0

[slapshot]

Here's a solution .... eliminate overtime!

Eliminating OT doesn't solve anything. Within the last 5 minutes of a tied game, both teams will play it safe knowing they'll get at least 1 point if the game goes OT or not. OT gives 5 extra minutes for 1 extra point.

[Mac the Knife]

Either...

3 points for a win,

0 points for a loss,

1 point for a tie, or

1 point for an overtime loss,

- or -

2 points for a win,

0 points for a loss,

1 point for a tie, or

- or -

Ditch ties, and ditch the point system altogether. Wins decide playoff spots, with an NFL-style tiebreaking procedure (which I know diehards, they already have)... Make 'em play overtime, non-stop, until somebody scores. Forget 5-minute periods, forget 20-minute periods. Make 'em go marathon-style until someone puts the puck in the net. You want to earn a playoff berth? Earn it by winning, not tying, going into OT on a consistent basis, or even winning via shootout.

[STL FANATIC]

I hate the system how it is, and that would hardly be better. Yes, OT is more exciting right now, but the system makes no sense. Go back to how it was.

All Wins- 2

All Loses- 0

All Ties- 1

Eliminate 4 on 4.

I'll expand later.

[Stampman]

NO SHOOT OUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do I feel strongly about that? You bet--shoot outs are contrived--they have no place in a team sport.

Are breakaways and penalty shots exciting--ususally yes.

BUT (and here's the important point) they come as a result of the regular play of the game--not as a contrived way to break a tie.

[NJTank]

You know whats wrong with teh NHL? THE COMMISIONER WILL NOT JUST TLEAVE IT ALONE!

None of these solutions he has put into place wil have an immeadiate effect...you gotta give them some time. He's full of patch work solutions to a problem that isn't that big. Hockey is not broken, the guy running it is crazy.

Amen

[zer0dotcom]

If they want hockey to be hockey, re-write the rulebook to the way it was in the 1980s, early 90s. after that, it'll be up to the player to decide the outcome. Too few goals scored? well, maybe the shooters aren't up to snuff. We've been spoiled in the past few decades with the likes of Gretzky, Lemeuix, and Jagr winning scoring titles and setting records. If the goalies are stoppin gore pucks, hey, thats the way things go.

Hockey has just evolved to fit the trend of the past decades, which is much higher scoring players as mentioned before. So, better Goalies have come out of the woodwork, more emphasis has been placed on defence to combat this offense.

So, in summation, Mr. Bettman, PLEASE STOP TRYING TO FIX HOCKEY! IT IS NOT BROKEN!

(apolgies for repeating myself, but this is a very passionate subject for me)