averyj Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I was never saying thats why they lost, I was simply explaining what he meant, since it seemed you misunderstood...and if how you quoted it isnt out of context, then how come if you read just that statement, it has a different meaning than if you read the whole post? Sure, im only 14 and dont know much more about the english language than anyone else my age (especially in my school district), but I always thought that if something is taken out of a quote and means something different than when its in its original place, like in this case, it is out of context...After going back and rereading it, I have to change my stance: The first sentence is a definitive statement about a subject, then the next sentences go off in a completely different direction. As a result, there's no need to keep them in the quote to give context because they only have a tenuous connection with the one I quoted. here's why:<Teacher Mode>Statement one states that Southern California is not going to the BCS Championship Game because they aren't very sportsmanlikeStatement two says that penalties can change the course of a gameStatement three says that because Southern California allegedly acts like subhumans, they will continue to get penalizedStatements two and three do not support statement one because there is no evidence to support the statement that the reason why Southern California is not in the BCS Championship Game is because they aren't sportsmanlike.1 As a result, there is no reason to quote them because they are of no use to the statement being quoted. After all, to quote a rather strange teacher I once had, you don't tell someone that you'll be serving them beef for a meal and then serve them a plate of grilled hoof. Sure, it was once a part of a cow, but that doesn't make it beef.</Teacher Mode>--------------------1In the grand scheme of things, unsportsmanlike conduct is not very high on the list of the reasons Pete Carroll has written down to improve on to get into the BCS Championship Game.i see now... thinking that way, one could misunderstand what averyj meant.........Ive never liked english class - hopefully my hate for it doesnt result in me speaking like an idiot.My excuse: It was written around 1:30 in the morning. You know, I rarely visit ccslsc anymore. I really should fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Motivation was definately a factor it just seems like it should be on the players to get motivated for this type of bowl game. If you can't get yourself pumped up for a BCS bowl, then thats a problem.Is that such a big surprise when there are 40+ bowls and you were in contention for the national championship game only to find yourself in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl...again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 By dominating the Cotton Bowl, and containing the nation's top running back, I'd say Mizzou pretty well made their case about why they should've been in a BCS Bowl, other than some of those teams like Hawaii and Illinois (though Hawaii being chosen was completely uncalled for, Illinois just did NOT belong there).Oh well. Wait 'til next year! We're gonna back and just as good, if not better. Look, Hawai'i deserved to be in that game. The bylaws of the BCS stated that they must be included as an at large selection. Yes, Hawai'i was obviously overmatched. They earned their shot, they took it, and they whiffed. Badly. But you know what, they had every right to be in that game. No matter how loud the whining is coming from Missouri and Arizona.Just because a team gets its collective ass handed to it does not mean it didn't deserve the opportunity to get their collective ass handed to it. Did Missouri not belong in the Big XII Championship this year? They got their asses handed to them, didn't they? Did Ohio State not belong in the BCS Championship last year? They got their asses handed to them, didn't they? Should there be about 10 less teams in the NFL because the Patriots gave them all heaping handfuls of their own asses?I agree that Missouri deserved a shot at a BCS game, but at the expense of Kansas, not Hawai'i. Once Kansas was picked, Missouri couldn't go, no matter how many spots were left, no matter who Missouri already beat, no matter how close they played Oklahoma before losing twice. So, a big fat "YAY!!!!!" to Mizzou, you won a meaningless game against an overrated team with no coach. Woop-de-damn-doo.Okay, if you had actually read what I wrote, I said Hawaii being there wasn't really uncalled for. Sure they lost big time, but up until then there was no reason to doubt them. Illinois, should not be there. Kansas, need I say anything about this that I haven't already said a million times?Why do you lambash me on something that wasn't even what you were making it out to be? I know you just like to rant and rave for the hell of it, we've all grown accustomed to that, but why do it in a case where what your ranting about isn't even being contradicted in the original statement?Because, God damnit, it's January 2 and I haven't had :censored: to rant about all year! I wasn't lambashing you. I wasn't even lambasting you. I certainly wasn't lamb :censored:ing you because that's nasty, and I don't do bestiality. Anywho, don't take it personal dog. I probably shouldn't have quoted your post, just made my statement. I've been hearing all day about how Hawai'i didn't belong and it's crap. You said, "Hawaii being chosen was completely uncalled for." There was no "not" as you stated in your reply to me. So, how am I supposed to read that, sir? I apologize if I misunderstood your words, but that's where I was coming from. Yes, I took at shot at Mizzou, but don't confuse that with taking a shot at you. That "dirty water" from Beantown must be finding it's way all the way to the Midwest because people are so sensitive about anyone saying anything about their team anymore. Gee whiz. It's not like I said Matt Call is a flaming douchebag or anything. I don't know you, I don't judge you, and other than the MBisordi fiasco, I really don't pay attention to what you say (Though it's nice to know you have all of my posting pegged as ranting just for the hell of it). Mizzouri rocks, they were screwed out of the BCS, they should have been in the BCS Championship game, Chase Daniel should have won the Heisman, and will in 2008, Gary Pinkel is a legend and a genius, black and gold is the sweetest color palette ever, and Missouri will roll to the Big XII title next year and get their shot at the National Title they were screwed out of this year. Oh, and Mizzou's win over Arkansas was the greatest bowl performance of all time, even though the Tigers proved that Arkansas didn't even belong on the same field. You happy?Holy Crap. How a typo can create such a headache. In my original post it was supposed to say, "Hawaii being there WASN"T completely uncalled for." Even after re-reading it I didn't notice it, until you pointed it out in your last post.My bad. And as a late Christmas gift to you, due to my mix-up that led to this little situation, feel free continue giving me some of that "Lamb-F*ing" ( ), as you so beautifully put it. (Meaning, feel free to bitch me out, even though the mistake has been corrected.) Â Â https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 It's going to be a little embarassing for you if Ohio State gets spanked.Nah. Embarrassing is going 3-9 and losing to a 1-AA team or something. I doubt I'll ever be "embarrassed" by an 11-1 season and a trip to the BCS title game. We're in a no lose situation here. We get stomped? Well it was to be expected. We win and I get to be the most obnoxious on this board. Call it what you want, blame it on what you'd like, but Ohio State's BCS record of late is far better than Oklahoma's. That's simply a fact. Yet we're the punch line and they're a "premier team." It just seems a little silly to me that's all. Â Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Motivation was definately a factor it just seems like it should be on the players to get motivated for this type of bowl game. If you can't get yourself pumped up for a BCS bowl, then thats a problem.Is that such a big surprise when there are 40+ bowls and you were in contention for the national championship game only to find yourself in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl...again?Pride? Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% about how you react to it.App State Mountaineers / Alabama Crimson Tide / Atlanta Braves / New York Jets / Atlanta Hawks "If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride - and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards." [Bear Bryant]Redmond Rampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 It just occurred to me. Missouri fans are getting all giddy over beating a team that obviously did not look inspired to play coached by coaches who were coaching their last game because they're all bailing out on the school to follow the coach that was fired before the game. Anyone think this this enthusiasm may be a little misplaced? [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFoA Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 A win's a win, last time I checked. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 It just occurred to me. Missouri fans are getting all giddy over beating a team that obviously did not look inspired to play coached by coaches who were coaching their last game because they're all bailing out on the school to follow the coach that was fired before the game. Anyone think this this enthusiasm may be a little misplaced?As a lifelong Mizzou fan I can honestly say...Hell F-ing NO!!! Â Â https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 A win's a win, last time I checked.Of course, but it isn't like Arkansas was the Arkansas that beat LSU. It was fairly obvious that only one team was up for playing that game. Arkansas fans and alumni were happier that Houston Nutt et al. were on their way out than being in the Cotton Bowl. [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 A win's a win, last time I checked.Of course, but it isn't like Arkansas was the Arkansas that beat LSU. It was fairly obvious that only one team was up for playing that game. Arkansas fans and alumni were happier that Houston Nutt et al. were on their way out than being in the Cotton Bowl.Same players played both games. Whether their heart is in it or not is on them. That shouldn't effect whether Mizzou can consider this win a good win or not. Â Â https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Same players played both games. Whether their heart is in it or not is on them. That shouldn't effect whether Mizzou can consider this win a good win or not.Fine then. How about the looks of that thumping at the hands of Oklahoma in the Big XII Championship Game now? [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winghaz Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 So who's going to be No. 2 in the final polls?Missouri sure made a statement. So did USC and Georgia. West Virginia REALLY made a statement by beating OU. I'm curious about the Kansas-Va. Tech game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I think no team has made a louder statement for no. 2 than West Virginia. However, they probably should have made that statement against Pitt, huh? What a waste that game turned out to be. However, I think it's pretty safe to say that when Pat White is quarterbacking, there is no better team in the country that WVU. They just destroyed OU last night. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbreadmann Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I think no team has made a louder statement for no. 2 than West Virginia. However, they probably should have made that statement against Pitt, huh? What a waste that game turned out to be. However, I think it's pretty safe to say that when Pat White is quarterbacking, there is no better team in the country that WVU. They just destroyed OU last night.I disagree. They lost to USF with him at QB, and he failed when he came back in against Pitt(granted, he was injured, but still). I say either USC or Georgia. However, he/they did look outstanding yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 So who's going to be No. 2 in the final polls?Missouri sure made a statement. So did USC and Georgia. West Virginia REALLY made a statement by beating OU. I'm curious about the Kansas-Va. Tech game.Going by the current rankings (I believe Yahoo uses the AP Poll), Georgia was #4 entering the bowl games. #3 Oklahoma lost, so they should move up. If the LSU-Ohio State game is a blowout, Georgia could move up to #2. USC was #6 entering the bowls, Missouri #7, and West Virginia #11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Rock. Chalk. Jayhawk. K-U!I am so glad that Kansas won that game. Since the Mizzouri fans (with the exception of Mr. Call) are quick to say Hawai'i didn't belong in the BCS based on their poor showing, will they also say that Kansas DID belong based on their knocking off #3 Virginia Tech? Didn't think so. The ACC has lost their last 8 BCS games. So based on the Oklahoma argument posited above, should the ACC lose their automatic bid? They seriously have become the runt of the BCS conferences. If they hadn't raided the Big East, imagine how much of a fraud they would be. Clemson, Florida State, and Virginia would have been their lead dogs. YIKES! On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Rock. Chalk. Jayhawk. K-U!I am so glad that Kansas won that game. Since the Mizzouri fans (with the exception of Mr. Call) are quick to say Hawai'i didn't belong in the BCS based on their poor showing, will they also say that Kansas DID belong based on their knocking off #3 Virginia Tech? Didn't think so..... nah, they would say... since we beat K-U, we would have smoked Va-Tech! I am a Tiger.... I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 It hasn't been a question of whether or not Kansas belonged in a BCS game, it's been whether or not they belonged in one over Mizzou. This game still doesn't prove otherwise. At 12-1 and ranked 8th in the BCS Polls, yeah that's deserving. But when a fellow conference team, who beat you and made it to the conference title game and was ranked higher, as well as their only losses are to the conference champs, is passed over for you, then that's not right at all, no matter the outcome of your bowl game.This does nothing to quell the argument that Kansas did not belong in the Orange Bowl over Mizzou. Congrats to them on a big win, they represented the Big XII very well, but they still should not have been in there over Mizzou. Â Â https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 My rankings:1. Winner of BCS National Championship2. West Virginia3. Loser of BCS National Championship4. Georgia5. Southern Cal Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% about how you react to it.App State Mountaineers / Alabama Crimson Tide / Atlanta Braves / New York Jets / Atlanta Hawks "If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride - and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards." [Bear Bryant]Redmond Rampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winghaz Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 My rankings if I were an AP voter:1. USC2. Winner of the BCS championship game3. Georgia4. West Virginia5. Loser of the BCS championship gameMy reasoning: I just think USC is the best team at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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