Eye Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 This has been going on in the New York Post ever since the Patriots spying/cheating scandal came out. Obviously the New York Post took exception to this because it happened to one of "their" teams. So wherever it has the Patriots' name (standings, bettors line, stats, etc.) there is always an asterisk next to their name, with a little caption at the bottom saying "*Caught cheating" I have been meaning to post this for a while, but I have not gotten around to it until now. It's late, but I will try to post a picture of what I mean from today's or tomorrow's New York Post.What do you guys think of this? Do you think this is warranted? Or is it petty and time for these people to let it go because of the adage "everyone is doing it" or "if you aren't trying to gain an advantage, you aren't trying to win"?Maybe some others who live in the area can shed some more light on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloPoErich Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I think it's funny as hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I'm not so sure it warrants an asterisk... I hate asterisks, even in Bonds' case. But it should be considered when looking at the Patriots dynasty and Bill Belichick, I think. To be honest, I think the cheating goes deeper than we've been lead to believe... to a point where the NFL may be trying to cover it up. The fact that Goodell said he would get to the bottom of it, and then the NFL quickly destroyed the tapes and we haven't heard from them since is a bit suspicious, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I'm all for something if it's genuinely funny. I'd let you make fun of me, my wife, my mother(well, you could make fun of her regardless), my football team, anything, so long as it's funny.This... really isn't, much like the CHEATERS types in the Top 5 threads, it just kind of gets old. (I feel the same way about 756* for the record, although I thought branding the ball was amusing enough as a twist on the story.) After a while, it really just boils down to self-righteousness. If someone wants to take a stand and say "because the NFL did not do this, this, and this to the Patriots, I'm no longer supporting their product", then I'd say good for them. Same with baseball and Bonds. But repetitive type, whether online or in print, just really gets to be boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Well, it's the Post. The newspaper is a joke anyway, so why shouldn't the sports page be? I take that back a little, because the sports page is what makes the NY Post worthwhile. They've got a definite point of view, and long-time readers know this. The "Cheaters" thing fits in with the direction of the paper and, thus, I have no problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp49 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Well, it's the Post. The newspaper is a joke anyway, so why shouldn't the sports page be? I take that back a little, because the sports page is what makes the NY Post worthwhile. They've got a definite point of view, and long-time readers know this. The "Cheaters" thing fits in with the direction of the paper and, thus, I have no problem with it.Those "in the know" only read the Post for the sports section and Page Six. Unless you work for New York State then you read Fred Dycker's column on the happenings in state government. The asterisk is just The Post being The Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whalersjets Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 If it wasn't the New York Post, I'd be pissed about it, and would be going on a tirade about the newspaper right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Boy Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 This... really isn't, much like the CHEATERS types in the Top 5 threads, it just kind of gets old.You obviously never went to the Chris Berman School of Comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 On behalf of Patriot Nation, I hereby declare the New York Post a bunch of "haters." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coast2CoastAM2006 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 the patriots are not cheaters, they simply have a very good if not hall of fame coach and very good team to win and be competitive. the cheating part are just part of teams being jealous because they can't beat the patriots, except for indy who didn't complain about cheating last year. there not cheats, just really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 It's the New York Post the same people that brought you following around A-Rod in Toronto. Now if it was the Times that was doing the asterisk it would be a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njmeadowlanders Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 This has been going on in the New York Post ever since the Patriots spying/cheating scandal came out. Obviously the New York Post took exception to this because it happened to one of "their" teams. So wherever it has the Patriots' name (standings, bettors line, stats, etc.) there is always an asterisk next to their name, with a little caption at the bottom saying "*Caught cheating" I have been meaning to post this for a while, but I have not gotten around to it until now. It's late, but I will try to post a picture of what I mean from today's or tomorrow's New York Post.What do you guys think of this? Do you think this is warranted? Or is it petty and time for these people to let it go because of the adage "everyone is doing it" or "if you aren't trying to gain an advantage, you aren't trying to win"?Maybe some others who live in the area can shed some more light on this matter.Um, it didn't happen to one of "THEIR" teams. "THEIR" teams are the Yankees, Yankees, and Yankees.Everyone else has to REALLY do something to warrant the headlines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Certain Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 I'm glad to see that someone noticed this in The Post...and I'm glad that they're doing it. FACT: The Patriots were caught cheatingFACT: Their "dynasty" is now tarnished. Billy B is now tarnished. If you're caught once, it just begs some questions...how long has this been going on? What else have they done? They didn't forfeit their draft position next year for no reason...they were caught cheating. You make your bed...you lie in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whalersjets Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 FACT: Their "dynasty" is now tarnished. Billy B is now tarnished.Who says? You? I had no idea that was a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappital92 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Billy B is now tarnished.Why would he be tarnished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Why would he be tarnished? Because he's made of aluminum, brass, copper, and/or silver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Posted October 21, 2007 Author Share Posted October 21, 2007 FACT: Their "dynasty" is now tarnished. Billy B is now tarnished.Can Steel Curtains become tarnished? Just wondering. I don't remember my physical science class completely. It was so long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 FACT: Their "dynasty" is now tarnished. Billy B is now tarnished.Can Steel Curtains become tarnished? Just wondering. I don't remember my physical science class completely. It was so long ago. .. well, put the steel in some acid and see what happens .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly shotgunned Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 FACT: Their "dynasty" is now tarnished. Billy B is now tarnished.Who says? You? I had no idea that was a fact. ...the pats haters that say 'almost as if he somehow knew moss would be open' after brady hits moss in the endzone. face it, once they got caught they opened the door for people to question everything they've done in the past and everything they do now. especially now that they're DOMINATING every team they face and show no signs of slowing down. the haters will hate, the doubters will doubt, and the speculators will speculate, and if it were any other team you would be one them. admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL FANATIC Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Depends how you take it.I think it's funny on a non-serious level. It's subtle, so it's not overdoing it. But it's funny.As for whether a real asterik should be warranted on the dynasty...well...much like my thoughts on Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, and those guys (Bonds does fall in this category, as I believe what I'm about to suggest has already been done for him), I believe there's enough evidence to warrant a further investigation if you're so inclined, but not enough concrete evidence to condemn yet.Now, there's obviously a difference. There is concrete evidence that the Pats cheated, and so they should be punished. But if the quesiton is did they cheat during the dynasty, and in a severe way to call it into question...well that needs more investigation.I'll look at it differently, because let's be honest, I was looking for any excuse to not take the Pats seriously. I've wondered since it happened about a conspiracy in Super Bowl XXXVI...and now that there's reason to maybe believe...well, I'm gonna keep the hope alive. But I can do that as a diehard Rams fan.Stepping back as an outside observer of the NFL...there needs to be more investigation if you're going to condemn the Pats to such a large extent.Unfortunately, I don't see that investigation happening. The NFL doesn't seem to want to do it, and they're powerful enough to block anyone else who does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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