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I'd love for the Falcons to make that deal for Dorsey, even if it involves the first-round pick. The Falcons' most likely pick in the first round is a defensive lineman....might as well get an established young guy that's already got a deal in place.

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Mort says the Lions have a deal with Stafford.

6 years, $41.7 million guaranteed, $78 million w/incentives.

Gee...thanks Detroit for setting the market so high. :censored: ers. <_<

The Rams are carrying this Sanchez bluff to a disturbingly great length.

Not so good pick by Detroit, they should have traded down.

My only Draft comment:

All that $$$ and he hasn't thrown a pass yet. :censored: You NFL.

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Mort says the Lions have a deal with Stafford.

6 years, $41.7 million guaranteed, $78 million w/incentives.

Gee...thanks Detroit for setting the market so high. :censored: ers. <_<

The Rams are carrying this Sanchez bluff to a disturbingly great length.

Not so good pick by Detroit, they should have traded down.

Easier said than done. Who's looking to move up to #1? Nobody.

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Mort says the Lions have a deal with Stafford.

6 years, $41.7 million guaranteed, $78 million w/incentives.

Gee...thanks Detroit for setting the market so high. :censored: ers. <_<

The Rams are carrying this Sanchez bluff to a disturbingly great length.

Not so good pick by Detroit, they should have traded down.

No one in their right mind is going to take a number one draft pick until the CBA establishes a proper rookie salary system.

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Mort says the Lions have a deal with Stafford.

6 years, $41.7 million guaranteed, $78 million w/incentives.

Gee...thanks Detroit for setting the market so high. :censored: ers. <_<

The Rams are carrying this Sanchez bluff to a disturbingly great length.

Not so good pick by Detroit, they should have traded down.

Traded down with what team, Will? No one wants that pick MOST years even when there is someone worth the pick, because you have to pay too much.

Do you actually think these things through before you post or do you just say stuff to get a rise out of folks?

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Mort says the Lions have a deal with Stafford.

6 years, $41.7 million guaranteed, $78 million w/incentives.

Gee...thanks Detroit for setting the market so high. :censored: ers. <_<

The Rams are carrying this Sanchez bluff to a disturbingly great length.

Not so good pick by Detroit, they should have traded down.

Traded down with what team, Will? No one wants that pick MOST years even when there is someone worth the pick, because you have to pay too much.

Do you actually think these things through before you post or do you just say stuff to get a rise out of folks?

I think it was their smartest move, to trade down - surely some team would trade up to #1 - remember that one year the Saints would have traded their entire draft for the #1 pick?

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Lions draft cap:

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The unis are new but clearly nothing has changed in the front office. A local Atlanta sports radio show was talking in-depth about the Lions the other day. Seems the new GM was Millen's #2 man for 7 years and they didn't change ANY of the staff in the college scouting department - you know, the ones responsible for researching all those sterling picks the Lions have made.

If Stafford's a bust they've just set that franchise back at least another 5 years. They'd better be right about young Matthew. :rolleyes:

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Remember that line that Ed Harris said in Apollo 13: "What all on the spacecraft is good?"

The Lions can't address every need with the #1 pick, and with this economy, no one is looking to move up into the top-5 in the Draft to pay all that money for an unknown commodity. And looking at the Lions QB depth chart....Stafford's gotta be better than Culpepper, Orlovsky, and Henson...and whoever else is there.

The Lions are coming off an 0-16 season....how much worse can things really get?

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Though there is the other option, that the Lions refuse to take a first round selection, and thus get out of having to pay first round money.

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Though there is the other option, that the Lions refuse to take a first round selection, and thus get out of having to pay first round money.

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I'd love for the Falcons to make that deal for Dorsey, even if it involves the first-round pick. The Falcons' most likely pick in the first round is a defensive lineman....might as well get an established young guy that's already got a deal in place.

Same feeling here. If they can get that Dorsey deal done, it'd basically make the Tony Gonzalez trade make a little bit more sense on the Chiefs' part. A 2009 1st and a 2010 2nd for Gonzalez & Dorsey is a way better deal than the one that was announced on Saturday. I just hope that for both parties' sakes that it happens on Saturday.

But yeah, this is gonna be a pretty weird draft for me. For the first time in who knows how long, I have faith in the Falcons' FO to actually do something good in the draft (besides striking lightning in a bottle with Vick and whoever else that was productive and they lucked up to draft.). Last year's draft was great with Curtis Lofton, Harry Douglas, Sam Baker and of course, Matt Ryan ALL coming in and being VERY productive, among others in the 08 class. Hopefully the good drafting continues for the Falcons this weekend.

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Lions draft cap:

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The unis are new but clearly nothing has changed in the front office. A local Atlanta sports radio show was talking in-depth about the Lions the other day. Seems the new GM was Millen's #2 man for 7 years and they didn't change ANY of the staff in the college scouting department - you know, the ones responsible for researching all those sterling picks the Lions have made.

If Stafford's a bust they've just set that franchise back at least another 5 years. They'd better be right about young Matthew. :rolleyes:

I am not a huge fan of the Stafford pick, but can we at least wait and see how he does for them before we judge the pick so much?

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So if Stafford becomes a perennial Pro Bowl quarterback, what are you so-called experts going to say about that? You all know so much, and yet I figure 95% of you thought it was stupid that Houston took Willams and not Bush. Trade down? Again with whom? No one wants to pay that money. And honestly, trade down to get what? Mark Sanchez or that immature Alabama tackle? Nothing in the top 10 prospects excites me and has superstar or stud written on him. The studs to me are the linebackers out of USC, and Lauranites. All solid linebackers going to solid teams. I forget who it was who said it, but someone on ESPN said, that the players aren't busts, it's the coaches that can't coach them. I don't think there's a true #1 pick out there, and there sure as heck isn't a QB that excites me. After Stafford, and I'm not really that excited about him, it's a crap-shoot. Sanchez, Freeman? I'll take Snead out of Mississippi next year before any of these quarterbacks, but if Stafford turns out well and the Lions are like the Dolphins, having one of the QBs next year may be a moot point. Oh yeah, and lest you all forget Payton Manning's first year he was 3-13 and Troy Aikman was 1-15. So next year's record isn't going to tell us how Stafford will do, the following years will. The way Stafford carries himself in interviews, I see a lot of the same things I saw from Payton Manning. I think he'll be fine.

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Though there is the other option, that the Lions refuse to take a first round selection, and thus get out of having to pay first round money.

Yeah, but what message does that send to the Lions fanbase?

Folks still joke about the Vikings for their disorganization of draft day years ago....

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Though there is the other option, that the Lions refuse to take a first round selection, and thus get out of having to pay first round money.
Yeah, but what message does that send to the Lions fanbase?

Folks still joke about the Vikings for their disorganization of draft day years ago....

It says, to me, that we don't have the money to waste on the #1 overall pick - and I think most fans would see that as understandable.

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So if Stafford becomes a perennial Pro Bowl quarterback, what are you so-called experts going to say about that? You all know so much, and yet I figure 95% of you thought it was stupid that Houston took Willams and not Bush. Trade down? Again with whom? No one wants to pay that money. And honestly, trade down to get what? Mark Sanchez or that immature Alabama tackle? Nothing in the top 10 prospects excites me and has superstar or stud written on him. The studs to me are the linebackers out of USC, and Lauranites. All solid linebackers going to solid teams. I forget who it was who said it, but someone on ESPN said, that the players aren't busts, it's the coaches that can't coach them. I don't think there's a true #1 pick out there, and there sure as heck isn't a QB that excites me. After Stafford, and I'm not really that excited about him, it's a crap-shoot. Sanchez, Freeman? I'll take Snead out of Mississippi next year before any of these quarterbacks, but if Stafford turns out well and the Lions are like the Dolphins, having one of the QBs next year may be a moot point. Oh yeah, and lest you all forget Payton Manning's first year he was 3-13 and Troy Aikman was 1-15. So next year's record isn't going to tell us how Stafford will do, the following years will. The way Stafford carries himself in interviews, I see a lot of the same things I saw from Payton Manning. I think he'll be fine.

I don't think he'll be in Peyton's or Brady's neighborhood, but if Stafford becomes just a "very good" QB, he'll be in the upper half of the QB caste system. And the QB level in the NFC North isn't that great....Stafford's in a division with soft Aaron Rodgers, shaky Tavaris Jackson/Sage Rosenfels, and whiny Jay Cutler (who has no real WR corps).

I think Stafford will be a good NFL QB. He's played in a pro-style offense in Athens, and as he showed last year, has experience making positive plays despite a shoddy offensive line.....

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Though there is the other option, that the Lions refuse to take a first round selection, and thus get out of having to pay first round money.
Yeah, but what message does that send to the Lions fanbase?

Folks still joke about the Vikings for their disorganization of draft day years ago....

It says, to me, that we don't have the money to waste on the #1 overall pick - and I think most fans would see that as understandable.

It says "We've had this choice to make for four months, and we don't have our :censored: together.".....

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Though there is the other option, that the Lions refuse to take a first round selection, and thus get out of having to pay first round money.
Yeah, but what message does that send to the Lions fanbase?

Folks still joke about the Vikings for their disorganization of draft day years ago....

It says, to me, that we don't have the money to waste on the #1 overall pick - and I think most fans would see that as understandable.

If you don't have the money to sign a #1 overall pick, then sell your franchise to those who can. Remember, only 60-65% is this money is guaranteed. Plus, Curry pubicaly said he would have taken the same contract which Jake Long had. If they were worried about "safe", and having the DET public look at the team as being pennywise like their fan base, then they would have signed him over a QB.

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