2013-14 NHL Season: "We Are North American Scum"

[dbadefense1990]

Good, the Oilers and their fans.

Closet Calgary fan?

[dbadefense1990]

"Waffles, waffles, crispy-golden waffles."

[spartacat_12]

That has just become the most masturbated-to video in Ontario.

Not all of Ontario.

As far as the fight goes, it's pretty ridiculous for something like this to happen in the pre-season. All of the main people involved (Rolston, Scott, Kessel, Clarkson) did something stupid and it lead to unnecessary fights, suspensions, and probably a concussion or two. While Scott has absolutely no business going after a guy like Kessel, one of the first things you're taught in initiation hockey is that your stick is not a weapon. I'll buy that the first slash was out of self-defense but you can't just skate up to a scrum and start two-handing people. Kassian gets 5 games for being reckless with his stick and accidentally injuring someone, we'll see how the league reacts to a player clearly trying to injure someone with his stick, even though it didn't get as ugly as it could have. If Kessel doesn't get a suspension the NHL will be setting a pretty poor precedent.

[Lee.]

Kessel and the Leafs can sit there and claim "self defense, I was scared" all they want, but stick swinging like that is a deliberate attempt to injure. The first one, okay, give him a game or two, but to circle back around and swing at him from behind like that? Bull :censored:.

But knowing how Shanaban likes to do things, it'll be "deliberate attempt to injure, but he had control of his stick and I don't like John Scott, so we're handing down a sentence of 'boys will be boys'."

[youcan'tseeme]

The whole situation would've been avoided if players took their blinders off and realized a Sabres player picked a fight with a much larger and tougher player and unfortunately landed on his head when he fell to the ice, rendering him more injured than he was from the fight itself.

He's a big boy, he knew what he was doing and the result was one that happens when you take on a larger, opponent tied in with hitting the ice. He's not a "helpess woman who needs her honour defended by John Scott". If Kessel runs Miller by all means go after him, but to go after him because someone wanted to "fight a big boy" and ended up on the ground is ridiculous! To top it all off when asked about it Rolston has the audacity to say "well what was the weight class in the one before?"

He's like Lindy Ruff all over, watch a replay before you comment on something, you were wrong about what happened. Kessel broke the code with his stick but Scott and Rolston are the reason for all of it. At the end of the day though I'd take a suspended Phil Kessel over one that's gone toe to toe with John Scott, because that wouldn't have been pretty.

[cmm]

These look like great seats for an NHL game.

Islanderspointblank.com has some photos from the "limited view" seats:

http://islanderspointblank.com/islanders/photos-the-limited-view-seats-at-barclays-center/

[bosrs1]

Anyone take in the Islanders preseason game at their future home in Brooklyn?

[cmm]

Anyone take in the Islanders preseason game at their future home in Brooklyn?

Yes.

[BigEd76]

Kessel gets 3 preseason games and Clarkson is appealing his suspension, so both will play in the opener against the Flyers. Bull****

UPDATE: Clarkson won't appeal and he'll sit out the first 10

[youcan'tseeme]

Kessel gets 3 preseason games and Clarkson is appealing his suspension, so both will play in the opener against the Flyers. Bull****

I'm not sure how he can appeal it unless they try to argue the classic " I was taking Phil off the ice when we saw who was on " card. Regardless I can't see that working. As for Kessel I thin that's a fair punishment, there are viscious two handers all the time that go unpunished.

[Lee.]

Yeah, but not many where a guy takes one swing, then circles back around to take another one.

[Cosmic]

The whole situation would've been avoided if players took their blinders off and realized a Sabres player picked a fight with a much larger and tougher player and unfortunately landed on his head when he fell to the ice, rendering him more injured than he was from the fight itself.

He's a big boy, he knew what he was doing and the result was one that happens when you take on a larger, opponent tied in with hitting the ice. He's not a "helpess woman who needs her honour defended by John Scott". If Kessel runs Miller by all means go after him, but to go after him because someone wanted to "fight a big boy" and ended up on the ground is ridiculous! To top it all off when asked about it Rolston has the audacity to say "well what was the weight class in the one before?"

He's like Lindy Ruff all over, watch a replay before you comment on something, you were wrong about what happened. Kessel broke the code with his stick but Scott and Rolston are the reason for all of it. At the end of the day though I'd take a suspended Phil Kessel over one that's gone toe to toe with John Scott, because that wouldn't have been pretty.

Don't care whose fault it was; it was just nice to see the Sabres care about something. This is the team that did nothing when Lucic ran their goalie over.

[youcan'tseeme]

The whole situation would've been avoided if players took their blinders off and realized a Sabres player picked a fight with a much larger and tougher player and unfortunately landed on his head when he fell to the ice, rendering him more injured than he was from the fight itself.

He's a big boy, he knew what he was doing and the result was one that happens when you take on a larger, opponent tied in with hitting the ice. He's not a "helpess woman who needs her honour defended by John Scott". If Kessel runs Miller by all means go after him, but to go after him because someone wanted to "fight a big boy" and ended up on the ground is ridiculous! To top it all off when asked about it Rolston has the audacity to say "well what was the weight class in the one before?"

He's like Lindy Ruff all over, watch a replay before you comment on something, you were wrong about what happened. Kessel broke the code with his stick but Scott and Rolston are the reason for all of it. At the end of the day though I'd take a suspended Phil Kessel over one that's gone toe to toe with John Scott, because that wouldn't have been pretty.

Don't care whose fault it was; it was just nice to see the Sabres care about something. This is the team that did nothing when Lucic ran their goalie over.

Well it seems they've gone overboard since then which will never erase them not reacting to the Miller incident, it's like they are trying to prove something, yet have let go of all rationale thinking in doing it.

[HedleyLamarr]

Not so much absurdly high so much as we love when Hedley posts the same thing four times a week.

"Hey, Jets won last ni--"

SEVEN GAME LOSING STREAK BOGOSIAN SUCKED AS AN 18 YEAR OLD HE'LL NEVER LAST IN THIS LEAGUE

To be fair, my disdain for Bogosian is for personal reasons as well as his suckitude on the ice.

He and Kane were the most difficult to work with when it came to extracurriculars, but Bogosian was extra douchey about it. Not quite on the same level as Josh Freeman, but close.

[Cosmic]

The whole situation would've been avoided if players took their blinders off and realized a Sabres player picked a fight with a much larger and tougher player and unfortunately landed on his head when he fell to the ice, rendering him more injured than he was from the fight itself.

He's a big boy, he knew what he was doing and the result was one that happens when you take on a larger, opponent tied in with hitting the ice. He's not a "helpess woman who needs her honour defended by John Scott". If Kessel runs Miller by all means go after him, but to go after him because someone wanted to "fight a big boy" and ended up on the ground is ridiculous! To top it all off when asked about it Rolston has the audacity to say "well what was the weight class in the one before?"

He's like Lindy Ruff all over, watch a replay before you comment on something, you were wrong about what happened. Kessel broke the code with his stick but Scott and Rolston are the reason for all of it. At the end of the day though I'd take a suspended Phil Kessel over one that's gone toe to toe with John Scott, because that wouldn't have been pretty.

Don't care whose fault it was; it was just nice to see the Sabres care about something. This is the team that did nothing when Lucic ran their goalie over.

Well it seems they've gone overboard since then which will never erase them not reacting to the Miller incident, it's like they are trying to prove something, yet have let go of all rationale thinking in doing it.

This isn't directly related to the Lucic thing... Jordin Tootoo plowed into Miller in one of his first games back after the Lucic hit and the team had a "normal" reaction, not a massive line brawl. This was its own thing. The Sabres just have not been a tough or gritty team since at least before the 04-05 lockout.

[youcan'tseeme]

The whole situation would've been avoided if players took their blinders off and realized a Sabres player picked a fight with a much larger and tougher player and unfortunately landed on his head when he fell to the ice, rendering him more injured than he was from the fight itself.

He's a big boy, he knew what he was doing and the result was one that happens when you take on a larger, opponent tied in with hitting the ice. He's not a "helpess woman who needs her honour defended by John Scott". If Kessel runs Miller by all means go after him, but to go after him because someone wanted to "fight a big boy" and ended up on the ground is ridiculous! To top it all off when asked about it Rolston has the audacity to say "well what was the weight class in the one before?"

He's like Lindy Ruff all over, watch a replay before you comment on something, you were wrong about what happened. Kessel broke the code with his stick but Scott and Rolston are the reason for all of it. At the end of the day though I'd take a suspended Phil Kessel over one that's gone toe to toe with John Scott, because that wouldn't have been pretty.

Don't care whose fault it was; it was just nice to see the Sabres care about something. This is the team that did nothing when Lucic ran their goalie over.

Well it seems they've gone overboard since then which will never erase them not reacting to the Miller incident, it's like they are trying to prove something, yet have let go of all rationale thinking in doing it.

This isn't directly related to the Lucic thing... Jordin Tootoo plowed into Miller in one of his first games back after the Lucic hit and the team had a "normal" reaction, not a massive line brawl. This was its own thing. The Sabres just have not been a tough or gritty team since at least before the 04-05 lockout.

But how was John Scott going after Phil " I'm Generally afraid to get hit " Kessel being tough or gritty? If Scott found the biggest Leaf dressed that night,(he still would've been larger than them) and tossed him around that would send more of a message than anything else. All that comes of this altercation is things we already knew, Rolston is an idiot, Phil Kessel is afraid of John Scott, and Clarkson is the new Tucker (god help us).

[Cosmic]

The whole situation would've been avoided if players took their blinders off and realized a Sabres player picked a fight with a much larger and tougher player and unfortunately landed on his head when he fell to the ice, rendering him more injured than he was from the fight itself.

He's a big boy, he knew what he was doing and the result was one that happens when you take on a larger, opponent tied in with hitting the ice. He's not a "helpess woman who needs her honour defended by John Scott". If Kessel runs Miller by all means go after him, but to go after him because someone wanted to "fight a big boy" and ended up on the ground is ridiculous! To top it all off when asked about it Rolston has the audacity to say "well what was the weight class in the one before?"

He's like Lindy Ruff all over, watch a replay before you comment on something, you were wrong about what happened. Kessel broke the code with his stick but Scott and Rolston are the reason for all of it. At the end of the day though I'd take a suspended Phil Kessel over one that's gone toe to toe with John Scott, because that wouldn't have been pretty.

Don't care whose fault it was; it was just nice to see the Sabres care about something. This is the team that did nothing when Lucic ran their goalie over.

Well it seems they've gone overboard since then which will never erase them not reacting to the Miller incident, it's like they are trying to prove something, yet have let go of all rationale thinking in doing it.

This isn't directly related to the Lucic thing... Jordin Tootoo plowed into Miller in one of his first games back after the Lucic hit and the team had a "normal" reaction, not a massive line brawl. This was its own thing. The Sabres just have not been a tough or gritty team since at least before the 04-05 lockout.

But how was John Scott going after Phil " I'm Generally afraid to get hit " Kessel being tough or gritty? If Scott found the biggest Leaf dressed that night,(he still would've been larger than them) and tossed him around that would send more of a message than anything else. All that comes of this altercation is things we already knew, Rolston is an idiot, Phil Kessel is afraid of John Scott, and Clarkson is the new Tucker (god help us).

I don't think Scott going after Kessel was toughness, I'm just glad the rest of the team joined in. If you told me the setup, I honestly would've expected Scott to get jumped by like 3 guys and the other Sabres to either do nothing or grab a Leaf's jersey in that "look like we're kinda fighting" way. It was Ryan Miller's first fight of his career. And to be fair, Scott did warn Kessel.

[Sport]

Not so much absurdly high so much as we love when Hedley posts the same thing four times a week.

"Hey, Jets won last ni--"

SEVEN GAME LOSING STREAK BOGOSIAN SUCKED AS AN 18 YEAR OLD HE'LL NEVER LAST IN THIS LEAGUE

To be fair, my disdain for Bogosian is for personal reasons as well as his suckitude on the ice.

He and Kane were the most difficult to work with when it came to extracurriculars, but Bogosian was extra douchey about it. Not quite on the same level as Josh Freeman, but close.

Care to share any specifics stories on this?

[BigEd76]

Islanderspointblank.com has some photos from the "limited view" seats:

http://islanderspointblank.com/islanders/photos-the-limited-view-seats-at-barclays-center/

Some more views

[HedleyLamarr]

Not so much absurdly high so much as we love when Hedley posts the same thing four times a week.

"Hey, Jets won last ni--"

SEVEN GAME LOSING STREAK BOGOSIAN SUCKED AS AN 18 YEAR OLD HE'LL NEVER LAST IN THIS LEAGUE

To be fair, my disdain for Bogosian is for personal reasons as well as his suckitude on the ice.

He and Kane were the most difficult to work with when it came to extracurriculars, but Bogosian was extra douchey about it. Not quite on the same level as Josh Freeman, but close.

Care to share any specifics stories on this?

The one I most vividly remember was Kane and Bogosian keep looking at their watches and female fan's asses at the team's draft party, and being quite eager to leave to get to the club.

Smiling pictures say otherwise, but Bogosian was never quite fond of hitting the charity rounds or being social at the team's Casino Night unless he was getting some tail afterwards.