rams80 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 How about the NBA just buying the Euroleague and the Chinese Basketball Association?Would be cool. 64 teams...Not happening ever. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil G Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I think the Pelicans should move to Seattle. New Orleans is a city that shouldn't have an NBA team, it's small and it's not quite uncharted territory. It doesn't hurt that when they were the Hornets they were under league ownership. If Tom's daughter doesn't really wants control over the Pelicans (which I hope she doesn't), then Pelicans to Seattle is a given. That's the problem though, the Bensons are going to try to keep an inept team inept for as long as possible. They don't care, they will continue to make money from the Saints.Bucks should move, but where? I said in a different thread that I don't like the idea of them moving to Seattle because then the Kareem-Robertson era is gone. So, here's what I can gather about some potential markets.Kansas City: Probably the best option, but the Sprint Center is doing fine without a NBA team. Could mean KC isn't that hungry.St. Louis: Because 4th time's a charm, right?Louisville: College basketball runs deeeep and the Cardinals are first tenants in the only viable arena.Virginia Beach: Needs much better plans than the current plan. If they don't get better plans then they aren't worthy.San Jose: The Warriors and Kings would panic. I think the cap for teams in Northern California is two teams per league.International Play: Why? Isn't Eurobasket enough for them? Bruh check out my last.fm And my Rate Your Music Fantasy Teams: Seattle Spacemen (CFA) Signature credit to Silent Wind of Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Appliance Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 What's more likely, the NBA expanding their season calendar (the length of the season, not the number of games played) or the NBA adding or moving teams abroad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbadefense1990 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think the Pelicans should move to Seattle. New Orleans is a city that shouldn't have an NBA team, it's small and it's not quite uncharted territory. It doesn't hurt that when they were the Hornets they were under league ownership. If Tom's daughter doesn't really wants control over the Pelicans (which I hope she doesn't), then Pelicans to Seattle is a given. That's the problem though, the Bensons are going to try to keep an inept team inept for as long as possible. They don't care, they will continue to make money from the Saints.Like I said before, in a perfect world, the New Orleans NBA franchise relocates to Oklahoma City to be the Thunder. The Hornets name goes back to Charlotte, while the Bobcats name dies. That way, Seattle keeps the Sonics, the Charlotte Hornets return, OKC gets a team, and New Orleans doesn't mind because they have the Saints and LSU football to fall back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Zephyr III Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 What's more likely, the NBA expanding their season calendar (the length of the season, not the number of games played) or the NBA adding or moving teams abroad?Frankly, I'm of the camp that believes that the season could stand to have less games. Too many injuries, too much shoddy ball in the second half of the season and too many incomplete teams going into the playoffs. Something like 72 games would be swell but I think that would prove to be a nightmare as far as contracts for players are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappital92 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I couldn't sleep last night, so instead of counting sheep, I was counting cities for expansion. I thought of a city which might be a really good market, but there are a few questions.Austin, Texas. The population is growing, and growing with 20 and 30 somethings, and they have money. There seems to be a good number of tech companies there, along with two Fortune 500 companies in Dell and Whole Foods. Plus, the area is ranked 17th in metro areas ranked by household median income.Those are the positives. The negatives for Austin are the 800 pound Longhorn in the room (although I'm not sure how much UT basketball would put a dent in an NBA team's attendance, I'd be more concerned about football), the Rockets and Spurs being between the city, being the 49th biggest TV market in the nation, and the vast amount of entertainment options in the city an NBA team would have to fight with. I dunno. I'm willing to get Archimedes'ed for this, just thought I'd share. http://www.wizardsxtra.com Is it the shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbadefense1990 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 What's more likely, the NBA expanding their season calendar (the length of the season, not the number of games played) or the NBA adding or moving teams abroad? Frankly, I'm of the camp that believes that the season could stand to have less games. Too many injuries, too much shoddy ball in the second half of the season and too many incomplete teams going into the playoffs. Something like 72 games would be swell but I think that would prove to be a nightmare as far as contracts for players are concerned.As proven by the lockout two years ago, I think sports fans in general love the idea of the NBA season beginning in Christmas. It's really the 1st day people generally begin to pay attention to basketball anyway, and serves as a comforter to people missing baseball or people whose NFL team is just playing the string. I'll be fine if the season shortens to 66 games, just like two years ago. Make the late games in the season matter more, or at least towards playoff seedlings. Of course the trade-off would be risking of pushing the NBA Finals to July, in which people in general are in baseball mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colortv Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I don't know that there's enough distance between San Antonio and Austin to justify putting a team there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I couldn't sleep last night, so instead of counting sheep, I was counting cities for expansion. I thought of a city which might be a really good market, but there are a few questions.Austin, Texas. The population is growing, and growing with 20 and 30 somethings, and they have money. There seems to be a good number of tech companies there, along with two Fortune 500 companies in Dell and Whole Foods. Plus, the area is ranked 17th in metro areas ranked by household median income.Those are the positives. The negatives for Austin are the 800 pound Longhorn in the room (although I'm not sure how much UT basketball would put a dent in an NBA team's attendance, I'd be more concerned about football), the Rockets and Spurs being between the city, being the 49th biggest TV market in the nation, and the vast amount of entertainment options in the city an NBA team would have to fight with. I dunno. I'm willing to get Archimedes'ed for this, just thought I'd share. Austin as a major league market is not worth Archimedes, since it is reasonably large. That said, the NBA would be unlikely to quadruple up on Texas and the Spurs may try to get territorial indemnification. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappital92 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yeah, the Spurs would be rather upset about it, considering San Antonio's a fairly small (and strange; big city, small metro area) market itself, putting another team a few hours drive from them would be met with some stern refusal.Also, another thing I thought about which would be a negative for Austin is the arena. The Longhorns arena is too small and probably too old (built in 1975, renovated in 2003), plus I can't see the NBA or Texas being happy about an NBA team in there. Of course, I think that if there was an owner looking to move their team or prospective owner for an Austin NBA franchise, there'd be some heavy discussion of a new arena being built. http://www.wizardsxtra.com Is it the shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 IIRC Texas is looking at replacing the arena (in part because a new teaching hospital is slated to be built at the current arena's location.) Presumably the new arena would be sufficiently larger for NBA consideration.Example of the Erwin Center's small size-the old Austin Wranglers arena league team played its games there and while it was never officially stated, the field was not "regulation size" as they say. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colortv Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I think if the NBA ever considers domestic expansion again:Seattle(obv)VancouverSt. LouisSan DiegoWould have to be at the top just for size purposes right? What about...Montreal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 St. Louis has been dismissed time and again, even in this thread. They are struggling to stay a 3-team town, let alone 4. And even if the Rams left, the Blues won't welcome direct competition in their building. Chances are you'd have the strongest 2-team town as a result.San Diego has no arena.Vancouver probably deserves another shot, but it might not get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hettinger_rl Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Does anyone think Las Vegas is viable? There are a lot of casino owners that could fund an arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 There are apparently a lot currently funding arenas. Someone will give them a shot eventually ... probably NHL. Lowest standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Isn't LV one of those economies that fluctuates a lot since it's so much based on tourism? Also, while there's certainly money in Las Vegas, aren't the majority of the people living there low-paid casino workers or people in the hospitality industry? Not that there's anything wrong with those jobs, but is that what is expected to support a pro team? Also, LV isn't really a 9-5 kind of place. While there are certainly normal 9-5 desk jobs just like anywhere, there's probably a disproportionately high number of non-standard hour jobs as well, which isn't a good thing when you need 20,000 people to come to an arena at 7:00 PM. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadmanLA Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Isn't LV one of those economies that fluctuates a lot since it's so much based on tourism? Also, while there's certainly money in Las Vegas, aren't the majority of the people living there low-paid casino workers or people in the hospitality industry? Not that there's anything wrong with those jobs, but is that what is expected to support a pro team? Also, LV isn't really a 9-5 kind of place. While there are certainly normal 9-5 desk jobs just like anywhere, there's probably a disproportionately high number of non-standard hour jobs as well, which isn't a good thing when you need 20,000 people to come to an arena at 7:00 PM.You pretty much hit it on the head...from my numerous visits there, especially I since I have some family there, things have picked-up there in the region, and it seems like they're consantly building new stuff there--whether it be a new city hall, hotels, dedicated rapid bus lanes, or road extensions. I know that UNLV wants to build a new mutlipurpose facility for its football and basketball teams; Sam Boyd Stadium is on the eastern outskits of the city, while Thomas & Mack is right on campus (the campus itself is a mile east of the Strip), and both are pretty much outmoded/oudated. We know that Las Vegas is a major attraction in terms of entertainment dollars, but as far as sports, the region is sort of like Louisville and Memphis where college basketball is king, even though UNLV's national relevance has dwindled since the end of the Jerry Tarkanian era. That said, under the right circumstances, I think Las Vegas could be a viable NBA market--a downtown arena might be a better locale rather than on the Strip, maybe in the Symphony Park development that's west of the downtown core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Does anyone think Las Vegas is viable? There are a lot of casino owners that could fund an arena.There are apparently a lot currently funding arenas. Someone will give them a shot eventually ... probably NHL. Lowest standards.If by "lots", you must mean two. MGMMirage or Caesars Entertainment as they own 21 hotel/casinos on The Strip. MGM is working with AEG on one project. The other ideas and concepts are looking for TIF funds from the city and Clark County. Sheldon Adleson is not looking since his LV Sands Corp. is looking to Macau for their greater earnings. The "locals casinos" like Boyd Gaming, Colony Capital (Station Casinos) are not really major players in terms of their properties and the latter just got out of Chapter 11 in the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Does anyone think Las Vegas is viable? There are a lot of casino owners that could fund an arena.There are apparently a lot currently funding arenas. Someone will give them a shot eventually ... probably NHL. Lowest standards.If by "lots", you must mean two. MGMMirage or Caesars Entertainment as they own 21 hotel/casinos on The Strip. MGM is working with AEG on one project. The other ideas and concepts are looking for TIF funds from the city and Clark County. Sheldon Adleson is not looking since his LV Sands Corp. is looking to Macau for their greater earnings. The "locals casinos" like Boyd Gaming, Colony Capital (Station Casinos) are not really major players in terms of their properties and the latter just got out of Chapter 11 in the last two years.I was recently in Macau, and holy hell - it's like if Las Vegas was an entire country. More spread out though - nothin like the strip. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Does anyone think Las Vegas is viable? There are a lot of casino owners that could fund an arena.There are apparently a lot currently funding arenas. Someone will give them a shot eventually ... probably NHL. Lowest standards.If by "lots", you must mean two. MGMMirage or Caesars Entertainment as they own 21 hotel/casinos on The Strip. MGM is working with AEG on one project. The other ideas and concepts are looking for TIF funds from the city and Clark County. Sheldon Adleson is not looking since his LV Sands Corp. is looking to Macau for their greater earnings. The "locals casinos" like Boyd Gaming, Colony Capital (Station Casinos) are not really major players in terms of their properties and the latter just got out of Chapter 11 in the last two years.I didn't intentionally mean to suggest they were all casino owners, just that there were a lot of arenas being proposed or built. For some reason I thought I had read something more recent, but this Las Vegas Sun article from summer 2012 goes into more depth on what was going on at that time:http://m.lvsun.com/news/2012/jul/15/if-we-build-it/Knowing Vegas, that's probably all changed by now, but some line up with what you listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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