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Hundred percent agree with you here, wasn't disagreeing with that part of your point at all. I can see a colored swoosh being applied tastefully so long as that same color appears elsewhere. In almost all circumstances, using the swoosh as an excuse to sneak in one more color is a pretty good indicator that the rest of the uniform doesn't utilize its color scheme properly. The only possible example where I'd like the swoosh the be a unique color would be a gold swoosh for the 49ers, but only if the chest workmark is also gold. That way there's at least some gold on the jersey but the swoosh isn't the only gold element.

I can see where you're coming from with not wanting to bring any attention to the manufacturer logo, but I'd rather the swoosh be visible if it means not sacrificing color balance and contrast. Do whatever color feels cohesive with the rest of uniform and the immediate area around it, and I'll be happy, so long as it doesn't hog attention by sticking out in an unnatural way, e.g. the Colts' black swoosh on their away set.

I like the white facemark every one in a while, but I prefer the brown facemask as the primary helmet. Not sure if it's just my youth speaking, but I just think it works the best. Adds a tiny splash of modern to add flavor to a classic look. The white feels a bit too bright for my taste and throws off the color balance when paired with brown jerseys, but on the white it looks fine. I think I prefer white to gray, but brown tops my rankings here. Perhaps I'll change my mind once I see the white facemasks in action, but as for now, brown works the best in my book.

Assuming they stay away from bone and stick with exclusively white over yellow and blue over yellow, the only thing keeping me from loving these uniforms is the gradient numbers. Make them solid yellow, and I can get past the number texture and segmented horn elements. With the gradient numbers, all the silly design choices feel more noticeable.

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I wouldn't mind the black and yellow color scheme nearly as much if they used this striping and number/logo treatment. This is a damn good uniform. I can definitely see the reference to the tail of the note logo here. Add this uniform to the pool of sets that should be mocked up in purple/gold/green or purple/light blue/copper. I feel like at this point the Jazz have used so many different color schemes and uniform styles that at this point any combination of older sets or any modernization using one color scheme over the others would feel a bit too disjointed. It's a tough situation for whoever they put in charge of designing the next set. Everyone has their favorite era and color scheme, whatever direction they go with is bound to disappoint a good portion of the fanbase. That being said, I'd be completely down with numerous directions. I wanna either see the previous set in Mardi Gras colors or see a modern combination of the '90s mountain set and redrock jerseys in purple/light blue/copper. As long as there's careful thought put into it, and it does something inspired by the numerous sets of the past, I'll like whatever they come up with. If they go for something dumb and trendy like what they tried with the atrocious black and yellow rebrand, I'll be incredibly disappointed.

I love this look, but the Ravens should be a purple at home team. It's a far more unique color than black and it's especially needed in a division where 2 other teams wear black as their primary home jersey. It's the Ravens' best dark combo, but it should remain as an alternate.

In my eyes the Bengals uniforms are inoffensive at worst and great at best. It's not hometown bias on Sport's part. It's subjective, of course, but there's no need to dictate where someone can spout their opinion on a forum where spouting opinions on uniforms is the entire purpose of the site. Jumping in to defend opinions is the lifeblood of this site, otherwise there'd be nothing to talk about here.

There's way too many patterns that don't work and most of the gradients are idiotic, but a few of these teams look better than their previous reincarnation, while most are downgrades. I think it says a lot about how ugly many of XFL 2020’s uniforms were that these don’t feel much worse, even though all but 3 are pretty bad. I'm sure there's details I haven't noticed that I'm not taking into account, but from what I can tell based on short glances, it could be a lot worse. To rank them from favorite to least favorite: 1. Seattle. No monochrome is a win and I surprisingly love the pattern they use. It's shimmery without being too overbearing and produces a really nice scale effect. The gradients in the number outlines don't bother me here, the subtlety of green-to-navy helps a lot. I'd have preferred a navy facemark but otherwise this is a huge upgrade from their previous iteration. No monochrome is also a huge win here. Very nice uniform in my book. 8/10 2. Arlington. I honestly quite like this set. The powder blue color is gorgeous and there’s enough large chunks of black that I don’t mind the monochrome that much. The inline font is pretty sharp. I’d love to see how a black jersey looks with the powder blue pants and helmet. The logo and name are still atrocious and the alternate logo should be the primary, but otherwise I like this one. 7/10 3. DC. Nothing too different here. Marble texture is weird but not noticeable enough to be offensive. White pants and swapping primary and secondary logos would be great. 6/10 4. St. Louis. The first big downgrade. The previous iteration had - in my opinion - by far the best set in the league, excellent color balance, and a badass helmet. This is incredibly plain and boring, but the least offensive of the remaining teams. 5/10 5 San Antonio. What in the world is that helmet? I know it’s supposed to be bull horns, but it doesn’t look anything like them. Way too low and far back on the helmet. The uniforms aren’t that bad, but I really don’t like grey and yellow as a color scheme and nothing here is very good. 4/10 6. Las Vegas. Incredibly boring and needlessly edgy, but it’s so plain that it’s not worth getting mad about. Logo and wordmark are atrocious though. 4/10 7. Orlando. These colors are fine in theory but look awful in practice. The lime and silver shouldn’t touch at all and the numbers should be silver. Too much lime all around and the patterns in the stripes don’t need to be there at all. 3/10 8. Houston. Ugh. This is one of the worst uniforms I’ve laid eyes on. The stupid number and stripe gradients are horrible, the white shoulder yoke looks incredibly dumb, and the helmet doesn’t even remotely match. 2/10

Same here. I vastly prefer the current set, though the collar pattern is a bit too detailed. I like the newer pattern and font far more, especially now that they stick to white numbers on the home and garnet on the away. It's an amazing look for Florida State.

I am well aware. I have nothing against the endzone being a place where different things happen compared to other areas of the field. That isn't what bothers me. What I'm protesting is what happens when this situation occurs in the endzone. I agree that something should happen when a fumble goes through the opponents endzone, I just disagree that it should result in a change of possession. Something needs to happen when it's fumbled through, for sure, but what currently happens doesn't fit in my book. It's too dramatic a consequence for too specific a situation, like how back in the olden days the football hitting the uprights resulted in a safety, no matter the context.

One of the rules in football that boggles my mind the most is the rule that a fumble by the offense going through their opponents end zone and out of bounds is a touchback, with possession granted the the opposite team. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Why should a fumble out of bounds only switch possession in the end zone, but not anywhere else on the field? Since the play happens so rarely, but enough to be enforced, I've seen it enough times to feel like it's completely unfair to the offense. Sure, it can occur on a great play by a defensive player knocking the ball free just before the runner crosses the plain of the goal line, (Kam Chancellor did so to Calvin Johnson that one time) but most of the time it occurs via sheer dumb luck, where the runner simply loses their grip on the ball when reaching for the pylon. I think the rule could use an update that involves the offense retaining possession, but still being put at a disadvantage. You still gotta hang on to the ball, after all. I discussed this with my brother and we came up with two ideas: Proposal 1: A fumble through the opposing endzone results in the play blown dead. The ball is granted to the offense at the opponents' 20 yard line, regardless of where the previous play took place. A sort of offensive touchback. This applies to any situation, whether it’s 3rd and goal on the 7 or an interception return from the other end of the field. The ball always goes to the 20 yard line, and play resumes from there. On offensive plays, the down is generally lost. That 3rd and goal on the 7 now becomes 4th and goal from the 20. Say the ball is fumbled through the endzone on a run from 2nd and 6 on the 35, the 20 yard line is enough for a first down, so the play results in 1st and 10 from the 20, and the down isn't lost. On returns, since there wasn’t a down before that play, it’s 1st and 10 from the 20. Proposal 2: The ball returns to the spot of the previous play, with loss of down. If the fumble occurs on a return of any kind, including a turnover, the ball is moved back to where the returning team gained possession of the ball, 1st and 10 from that spot. Say a DB picks the ball off at his own 45, runs it back, and fumbles through the endzone. The ball goes back to where he picked it off, at the 45. If he made the interception in his own endzone, ran it back 100 yards, and then fumbled through the opposite endzone, the play is considered a touchback, since he was in his own end zone when he intercepted the pass. If the return occurs on a kickoff, where the returner caught the ball inside the 10, the play is ruled a touchback. Let’s at least be a little bit nice to kickoff returners, they’ve got tough jobs. I'd love to see what y'all think about this, it's a tricky rule to adjust and one that's quite controversial. Hopefully either of these two ideas make enough sense.

The Seahawks have used mono Wolf-Gray since the team's redesign a decade ago, and it looks miles better than the Lions' anthracite dumpster fire. It does wonders that it's light enough to look like white from a distance. I'd be willing to see the Seahawks ditch the white jerseys in favor of gray full time, I think this is an example of a non-white color done well. The Rams could learn a thing or too from this set. I'd vastly prefer to see the neon barf color rush get canned, but if this season is indeed the final year of Wolf Gray's tenure, it should at least go out with the respect it deserves.

I honestly can't stand this set, even with only Northwestern stripes. Not sure what it is, could be just the era's jersey materials, or maybe that they wore this set during the 0-16 '07 season. Not a fan of the outline numbers in this case, nor the black facemask or collar striping.

I'd be perfectly fine if the Lions went with a mix between this set and the throwback, basically a Honolulu blue color swap of Ohio State. It still looks traditional and still retains the Northwestern stripes, the only two requirements I'd have for a redesigned set.

I've used this exact same idea for years with my Minnesota NAFA team, not accusing you of stealing or anything but it's worth pointing out that it's a concept that can fall under the category of "too simple to be stolen". Slapping a star in the negative space of an M is an elegant look, no matter how it's executed, even if it's a bit generic. (most recent iteration, March 2022) Original team concept, June 2019 To discuss the rebrand itself, I'm quite pleased. I'm not much of a baseball fan so I'm not the most in tune with baseball aesthetics, but I'm a fan of this rebrand. I like the simplicity of the set and the wordmarks and number font are really classy. Logos are solid. Wish they included a powder blue uniform, but it's a elegant-looking set that's really nice at best and inoffensive at worst. Solid job all around, despite some small flaws.

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Honestly think that blue pants would look good for the Chargers, but I vastly prefer white and gold pants, mainly due to historical precedent. It'd be a solid look, but not nearly as beautiful as white or gold pants. Glad they stuck with what they have but I wouldn't be opposed to seeing blue pants in action just to know what they look like.

You're right on the money. Traced from a stock logo. https://www.istockphoto.com/vector/angry-gorilla-symbol-gm498279260-79564353?phrase=gorilla teeth There is never an excuse for stealing images without credit and trying to pass it off as your own work. I imagine you've done the same for a handful of logos in your threads. It doesn't take much to include the sentence "logo is a modified version of a stock photo" in your post. That should be the bare minimum. Even better idea, just stick to official school marks or make your own logos.

You're gonna need to use an image hosting website like Imgur to post images here, I'm pretty sure there's a thread detailing the process at the top of the concepts forum.

Navy and gold has been a common color scheme for decades across multiple sports and ties in with another pro team in the state but ok

I don't think I've ever heard of a team doing so much fan research for a uniform design; that's a good sign they're listening to feedback and willing to say no to anything overly gimmicky for the sake of adhering to fan preference and history. If only other teams would follow this example, we'd have a lot fewer dumpster fire uniforms in the league.

Don't get me wrong, I love the classic Barry-era lions set, but I just don't think it's quite good enough to bring back. It falls into the category of classic but too boring for me, just like the orange crush-era Broncos set. I like the idea of the Lions leaning a bit more modern a lot better, especially if that means using Northwestern stripes. I slapped this concept together just now, it's essentially a color swap of one of my NAFA teams. It maintains a noticeable difference from the Cowboys and feels more simplified and classy compared to the current set, but still has enough of a modern flair. (Again, apologies to the mods if my concept ideas are unacceptable in this thread, I just like to showcase alternative ideas I have when they're relevant to the team discussed)

It may be because I'm too young to have been around for this era, but this combo looks almost exactly like the Cowboys to me. The pants and helmet are way too similar in shade for me to see anything else. I'd be in favor of the Lions using the older sleeve stripes and northwestern stripes on the pants and helmet, plus a more modern block font, but I don't think a full overhaul is necessary for the lions. The northwestern stripes work great, just change the home numbers to white with a silver outline, deitalicize them, and ditch the stripe wordmarks. That's all they really need.

As long as the Commanders, Titans, Rams, and Falcons are around, matchups like these will never crack the top 20 worst looking games. It's pretty bad, no doubt, but it's one quick fix away from being a decent matchup. If the Saints wear gold pants, it's fine. If the Saints wear gold pants AND the Ravens wear purple pants, it's gorgeous.