JayMac Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Strasburg, Scherzer, Zimmermann, Gio, Fister. Have fun, NL East.They were gonna win the division by default anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Woah. Aaaaand the Nats are now even bigger favorites to win it all. That's gonna be a SCARY team this year. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Wow what an absolute monster rotation in Washington. Not sure if Tigers are gonna just see how well Greene and Simon perform in the opening months before making a possible trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers6884 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Looks like Scherzer to the Nats for a 7 year deal.Good riddance.I hope his couch is comfy enough for him to sit back on and watch the Tigers win the Fall Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Looks like Scherzer to the Nats for a 7 year deal.Good riddance.I hope his couch is comfy enough for him to sit back on and watch the Tigers win the Fall Classic.Yet Porcello is still not coming back. I'm a Tigers fan and unlike you, I wish him well in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Cubs acquire Dexter Fowler from Astros for Dan Straily and Luis Valbuena. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Looks like Scherzer to the Nats for a 7 year deal.Good riddance.I hope his couch is comfy enough for him to sit back on and watch the Tigers win the Fall Classic.We're not winning anything without a quality 4th starter and at least 2 solid additions to the bullpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Jeff Passan @JeffPassanSources: Max Scherzer's deal is $210 million for seven year. Half is deferred: $105M from 2015-21, $105M from 2022-28. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Big pickup for the Nats with Scherzer, but I do wonder if the losses of Soriano and Clippard cancels out some of the pros of that addition.I'll say coming into the year on paper at least the Nationals should have the best rotation in baseball. Tanner Roark I thought was arguably their best starter last year and he's coming into the year as the fifth starter. That's all I think you need to know about how good that staff really is.There isn't a below average player in the remaining starting eight either. Everything besides the bullpen either stayed the same or got better.The only thing that would give me a bit of cause for concern if I were a Nats fan is everything I just said could have been said about the LA Dodgers last year. What did the Dodgers in I thought was Josh Beckett going down, because it wasn't like the Dodgers had a bad bullpen. Jansen, Howell and League all had sub 3 ERA's. It just wasn't very deep and once Beckett went down that got exposed more and more as the season went on and exposed even more against the Cardinals, when it became very clear that if a Dodger starter couldn't go more then six innings they had almost no chance of winning.I could see the Nats finding themselves in a very similar situation if more then one starting five isn't 100%, which in this day and age of baseball is almost a mathematical certainty.That being said. They were a 96 win team last year and I would expect them to win roughly the same amount of games this year, they may even crack 100, which in spite of over 80 years of pro baseball being played in D.C. since 1901 has never happened. They are arguably the most well rounded team in the NL if not all of baseball.But I would hold off on penciling them in for the World Series, or even the NL East title as I could see both the Marlins and the Mets too young and upcoming teams surprising a lot of people this year who are looking at their records over the past two or three years and expecting the same team to show up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Nats are going to allegedly trade Stephen Strasburg. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Nats are going to allegedly trade Stephen Strasburg. The question I would have is why have the Nats not taken the brakes off the guy yet?Two years ago they may have cost themselves a shot to go to the World Series by not putting him on the playoff roster. But the rationale was he was coming off Tommy John surgery and his arm was too sensitive to handle any more then that. Fine.But last year was supposed to be the year that saw the Nats fully unleash Straburg on the rest of the league. But that didn't happen. They still babied his arm like a piece of fine china. He only threw 100 pitches or more 12 times in a game and had eight starts where he threw less then 90 pitches. Granted in three of those games he had given up at least five runs, but what about the other five? In four of them he had a shutout going. The Nats won every game, so the move didn't come back to bite them too much, but between Tanner Roark, Gio Gonzalez and Doug Fister, they only had three such starts combined. So its not an organizational philosophy towards pitching. Its just Strasburg that this applies to. Why?Now all of a sudden the guy they've pegged to be the staff ace for the next ten years is on the trading block. What is it about Stephen Strasburg that is making the Nats behave this way? Teams don't just give up on people they believe to be franchise building blocks for no reason.It could very well be the case that this guy has five years at best left in him and the Nats are simply trying to cash it before anyone else figures that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportstar1212 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Looks like Scherzer to the Nats for a 7 year deal.Good riddance.I hope his couch is comfy enough for him to sit back on and watch the Tigers win the Fall Classic.I thought you were going to go become a Cubs fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVIXX Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Brewers might trade gallardo to the rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Nats are going to allegedly trade Stephen Strasburg. The question I would have is why have the Nats not taken the brakes off the guy yet?Two years ago they may have cost themselves a shot to go to the World Series by not putting him on the playoff roster. But the rationale was he was coming off Tommy John surgery and his arm was too sensitive to handle any more then that. Fine.But last year was supposed to be the year that saw the Nats fully unleash Straburg on the rest of the league. But that didn't happen. They still babied his arm like a piece of fine china. He only threw 100 pitches or more 12 times in a game and had eight starts where he threw less then 90 pitches. Granted in three of those games he had given up at least five runs, but what about the other five? In four of them he had a shutout going. The Nats won every game, so the move didn't come back to bite them too much, but between Tanner Roark, Gio Gonzalez and Doug Fister, they only had three such starts combined. So its not an organizational philosophy towards pitching. Its just Strasburg that this applies to. Why?Now all of a sudden the guy they've pegged to be the staff ace for the next ten years is on the trading block. What is it about Stephen Strasburg that is making the Nats behave this way? Teams don't just give up on people they believe to be franchise building blocks for no reason.It could very well be the case that this guy has five years at best left in him and the Nats are simply trying to cash it before anyone else figures that out.Because he's an FA next year, and will command over $200 million. Zimmerman's also an FA, and will get at least $150 million. No way they can afford Strasburg after this contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Nats are going to allegedly trade Stephen Strasburg. The question I would have is why have the Nats not taken the brakes off the guy yet?Two years ago they may have cost themselves a shot to go to the World Series by not putting him on the playoff roster. But the rationale was he was coming off Tommy John surgery and his arm was too sensitive to handle any more then that. Fine.But last year was supposed to be the year that saw the Nats fully unleash Straburg on the rest of the league. But that didn't happen. They still babied his arm like a piece of fine china. He only threw 100 pitches or more 12 times in a game and had eight starts where he threw less then 90 pitches. Granted in three of those games he had given up at least five runs, but what about the other five? In four of them he had a shutout going. The Nats won every game, so the move didn't come back to bite them too much, but between Tanner Roark, Gio Gonzalez and Doug Fister, they only had three such starts combined. So its not an organizational philosophy towards pitching. Its just Strasburg that this applies to. Why?Now all of a sudden the guy they've pegged to be the staff ace for the next ten years is on the trading block. What is it about Stephen Strasburg that is making the Nats behave this way? Teams don't just give up on people they believe to be franchise building blocks for no reason.It could very well be the case that this guy has five years at best left in him and the Nats are simply trying to cash it before anyone else figures that out.Because he's an FA next year, and will command over $200 million. Zimmerman's also an FA, and will get at least $150 million. No way they can afford Strasburg after this contract. Well if someone is going to give Strasburg over $200 million I would let him walk just based on what they gave Scherzer. At no point in Stephen Strasburg's career has he ever proven himself to be a better pitcher then Scherzer. So either they got a deal on Max, or someone is going to drastically overpay for Stephen if that's true.But I don't think that has anything to do with it, because if they were that convinced Strasburg would be able to command that type of money through his on field performance, I don't think they would have gone after Scherzer to start with. There's also other ways of dumping salary besides trading Stephen Strasburg if it was that much of a concern. If they were serious about dumping salary I would think they would start by looking to deal Jayson Werth and Ryan Zimmerman, not Strasburg.It also doesn't explain anything about why even last year the Nats were being so careful about how many pitches he threw and for any team looking to pick him up, that's the first question they are going to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbadefense1990 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Woah. Aaaaand the Nats are now even bigger favorites to win it all. That's gonna be a SCARY team this year.Oh please. We all know how it'll all end come October, anyway. A 110-120 win Washington ballclub will blow it come postseason time, while a 60-70 win Giants or Cardinals team will win the NL pennant yet again.I thought you knew this by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Pfft, wouldn't bother me one bit. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Blue Jays should trade for one of the Nats' starters. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Six Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Reminder: In addition to winning the World Series by himself, Madison Bumgarner hit two grand slams last year (which is more than Derek Jeter hit in his entire career). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmm Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Reminder: In addition to winning the World Series by himself, Madison Bumgarner hit two grand slams last year (which is more than Derek Jeter hit in his entire career).#NL4EVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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