MJWalker45 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The Arena League leadership needs to up the game, be more fiducially more responsible. Awarding Vegas a team wasn't smart. Not getting all the expansion fees before letting them play was the mistake. It seems like the league heard who was involved and stopped checking up on the owners until they didn't make their payments. It's the biggest reason I doubt those Mexican teams ever see the field. I also don't understand what the appeal of putting a team in Vegas is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 The Arena League leadership needs to up the game, be more fiducially more responsible. Awarding Vegas a team wasn't smart. Not getting all the expansion fees before letting them play was the mistake. It seems like the league heard who was involved and stopped checking up on the owners until they didn't make their payments. It's the biggest reason I doubt those Mexican teams ever see the field. I also don't understand what the appeal of putting a team in Vegas is?No, the mistake is one that virtually every start-up sports league makes: failure to ensure franchise viability over an extended period, opting to grab a franchise fee without too much concern as to whether it will be operating five years after it launches.Oddly enough one exception (at least initially) to this was the USFL. Each franchisee paid (ostensibly) a $6 million entry fee to get in. But each was also required to post an irrevocable letter of credit for $1.5 million, payable to the league in the event that a team failed to meet its obligations and its operations had to be taken over. For example, the Los Angeles Express' original owners (Daniels & Harmon) paid in total $7.5 million to the USFL. They sold the franchise to Oldenburg the following year. When Oldenburg's finances took him under, the league took over the franchise. The first thing they then did was to cash in the letter of credit for the $1.5 million, using those funds to (at least partially) fund the team through the 1985 season while searching for a buyer. Part of the USFL's downfall came when it gave permission to team owners to draw from these funds, undermining the whole system.Another example was the NASL, which required team owners entering the league to put $3 million in escrow. That money would be returned to the team only on an "as needed" basis, by authority of the commissioner, upon demonstrated hardship. Unfortunately for the league, its commissioners tended to play fast and loose with the definition of "hardship."The AFL, by contrast, doesn't even have such a system in place - and now, because the whole enterprise is on such shaky ground, they couldn't put it in place if they wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (drumroll) And now...Portland may be teetering, per an article in the Portland Tribune... http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/287379-164370-thunders-afl-future-up-in-the-air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 So, which team gets 2 playoff spots? Or they could always bring back the Houston ThunderBears as a travel team. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needschat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 So, which team gets 2 playoff spots? Or they could always bring back the Houston ThunderBears as a travel team.Have a travel team, playing 4 "home" games in Albany NY, the other 4 in Detroit and Nashville Oh what could have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 There's always the West Palm Beach Convention Center. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needschat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 There's always the West Palm Beach Convention Center.That place is still in use? Place was/is worse than the Hollywood Sportatorium Oh what could have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 ECW Arena www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 O-69. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 <goes to ArenaFan.com to see what's going on>Headline: "League takes over operations of Portland Thunder."<scoffs, leaves site> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think you forgot three <pop-up ads> in your short story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nflmich17 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Which side you one Arena Football League or Indoor Football League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 The side that wants to mercy-kill both leagues. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykotyk Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 For just the league logo? Or the teams as a whole, etc? For league logo, the AFL screwed up with their NBC-era logo. The old goal post logo was classic. The 'backward fumble' logo was an abomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThin Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Neither. I only need one football league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Do we have to pick? I mean they both suck so you really can't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 AFL. If you want both to fold, then tell the NFL to expand to 40 teams already. The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 15 minutes ago, neo_prankster said: AFL. If you want both to fold, then tell the NFL to expand to 40 teams already. Why? What markets are either in that really need NFL teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 3 hours ago, bosrs1 said: Why? What markets are either in that really need NFL teams? Well, Cleveland hasn't had a professional football team since 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Mac the Knife said: Well, Cleveland hasn't had a professional football team since 1995. And the people in San Diego ran the Chargers out of town after the drafting of Ryan Leaf. The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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