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Beginning of the end of Arena Football League? (again)


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13 hours ago, LMU said:

Merging with the IFL thread since it's all the same.

 

Good thing you didn't say this over on ArenaFan...

 

They seem to have an ongoing delusion over there that "AFL 2.0" is, somehow, a higher calibre of indoor football than the other leagues, which they term "ankle biters," clinging on to the mythology that the original league didn't fold, but merely took a one-year hiatus and returned - sort of a league-wide Cleveland Browns mentality.

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On 1/27/2016 at 2:21 AM, Mac the Knife said:

 

Good thing you didn't say this over on ArenaFan...

 

They seem to have an ongoing delusion over there that "AFL 2.0" is, somehow, a higher calibre of indoor football than the other leagues, which they term "ankle biters," clinging on to the mythology that the original league didn't fold, but merely took a one-year hiatus and returned - sort of a league-wide Cleveland Browns mentality.

 

From what? Like 2 users? Most of the posters there are constantly posting/worrying about the league dying and every season how it's probably the last 

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I don't understand the "kill them off" opinion at all.  I never have and likely won't ever actually watch these leagues, but I'm not sure why anyone would be against their very existence unless they were publically-funded ventures.  At the very least, they provide a paycheck to staff, employees, and players (albeit probably a small paycheck) and it's not at the expense of anything that anyone cares about, so much like with the UFL, why not?

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On 1/25/2016 at 0:55 PM, Nflmich17 said:

Which side you one Arena Football League or Indoor Football League 

 

Those two indoor football leagues you're talking about are more poorly constructed than this sentence. 

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On Tuesday, February 02, 2016 at 9:52 AM, BringBackTheVet said:

I don't understand the "kill them off" opinion at all.  I never have and likely won't ever actually watch these leagues, but I'm not sure why anyone would be against their very existence unless they were publically-funded ventures.  At the very least, they provide a paycheck to staff, employees, and players (albeit probably a small paycheck) and it's not at the expense of anything that anyone cares about, so much like with the UFL, why not?

 

Also, why fold either league when jobs in other industries are disappearing from our shores?

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Portland Thunder's home page

 

 

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February 3, 2016
CLACKAMAS, OR

Portland Fans:
 
First let me express my sincere gratitude for your support of the Portland Thunder for the last two years.  It has been my intention all along to bring a family-friendly, locally-owned and affordable professional sports entertainment team to the city in which I was raised and have lived my entire life.  This is the city in which I have been fortunate enough to build a successful business which employs many Oregonians. 
 
I apologize to the Portland Thunder fans and sponsors for the lack of an earlier response to the AFL’s January 6, 2016 press release, which caught me,  along with all of you,  “off-guard”.  We have been negotiating since the end of our second season with the Commissioner of the AFL to resolve the legitimate and serious concerns we had regarding some of the League’s operational practices.  We held the genuine belief we were negotiating in good faith up until January 6, 2016, when the League, without notice to me, issued the press release announcing their “decision” to take over the control of the team.
 
We promise that if the League does not field a team in Portland for the 2016 season, we will ensure that those individuals who have either paid for or placed a deposit on tickets purchased from us will be refunded their money.  Based on advice and counsel, we are not yet aware of, nor is it possible for me to articulate, the plans going forward regarding the AFL team.  Serious bona fide issues of dispute exist between the ownership and the League, issues which the ownership had been negotiating in good faith.   We sincerely hope these issues can be resolved satisfactorily for all.  To date, negotiations have not conclusively established an equitable agreement between the ownership and the League.
 
When we have more information regarding the mechanism for resolution of the ongoing issues, we will further address this situation.  Again, we thank you all for your support.  We are particularly grateful to those of you who have personally communicated your encouragement.
 
 
Sincerely,
Terry W. Emmert

 

 

 

 

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On 2/2/2016 at 0:54 PM, Mac the Knife said:

 

Did they appoint you Commissioner for February or something?

I'll be in my third year as statistician for the Chicago Blitz this year (their 2nd in AIF after one season in the CIFL).

 

Before that, I'd worked for the Wisconsin Wolfpack and Chicago Cardinals in 2010 and the Chicago Knights in 2011.  Luckily, things didn't work out between me and the Chicago Vipers/Pythons, so I missed that trainwreck.

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7 hours ago, Sec19Row53 said:

I'll be in my third year as statistician for the Chicago Blitz this year (their 2nd in AIF after one season in the CIFL).

 

Before that, I'd worked for the Wisconsin Wolfpack and Chicago Cardinals in 2010 and the Chicago Knights in 2011.  Luckily, things didn't work out between me and the Chicago Vipers/Pythons, so I missed that trainwreck.

 

What a coincidence... I own chicagoblitz.com...  :D

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Speaking of trainwrecks, the Chicago Eagles are playing in CIF this season, in the cavernous (for this league) UIC Pavilion. At least, I think they're the Chicago Eagles. Their website, text, and promotional materials can't decide if they're the "Chicago Eagles" or "Illiana Eagles". and up until last week, their site banner had the two different wordmarks partially overlapping each other. There's a tab for "PERSPECTIVE PLAYERS," which, I guess if you're playing in this league, it helps to have a fair bit of perspective. The team also seems to think "UIC" stands for "University of Chicago at Illinois."

 

Tickets range from $12 to $40. If they play out more than half of their 6-game home schedule at UIC, I will be stunned.

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DC seems to be on track for 2017. Verizon Center, not the Wizards/Mystics practice facility under construction.

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2016/02/10/ted-leonsis-close-to-securing-arena-football-league-team-to-play-at-verizon-center/?platform=hootsuite

 

I assume that the holdup is Butera and the AFL want an exorbitant expansion fee.

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On 2/9/2016 at 9:04 AM, Sodboy13 said:

After all the insistence from Adam on ArenaFan that the big money is coming to save the league from NBA/NHL ownership, I'd hazard a guess that those people are, and have been, planning on putting their money elsewhere.

 

The 'big money' seems to be part of the reason the AFL isn't trying to string along dead weight. Which makes the Portland situation hilarious.

 

It's going to be curious seeing 7 teams tag along the Portland franchise to get to 2017 and see this all come into being, possibly.

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2 hours ago, dfwabel said:

DC seems to be on track for 2017. Verizon Center, not the Wizards/Mystics practice facility under construction.

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2016/02/10/ted-leonsis-close-to-securing-arena-football-league-team-to-play-at-verizon-center/?platform=hootsuite

 

I assume that the holdup is Butera and the AFL want an exorbitant expansion fee.

 

Cue Dan Snyder's lawyers coming in with his claim to the territory and the "Washington Warriors" in 3...

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10 hours ago, Sodboy13 said:

 

Cue Dan Snyder's lawyers coming in with his claim to the territory and the "Washington Warriors" in 3...

Since the Arena Football League (as of today) is simply an organization that bought the names, logos, and identifying history of the original league in bankruptcy court, he won't really have a leg to stand on. His agreement was with the old corporation.

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