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Geoff Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 NFC - EAST, CENTRAL, WESTAFC - EAST, CENTRAL, WESTNFC-ECarolinaNew York GiantsPhiladelphiaTampaTORONTOWashingtonNFC-CAtlantaChicagoDetroitGreen BayNew OrleansSt. LouisNFC-WArizonaDallasMinnesotaLOS ANGELESSan FranciscoSeattleAFC-EBaltimoreBuffaloJacksonvilleMiamiNew EnglandNew York JetsAFC-CBIRMINGHAMCincinnatiClevelandIdianapolisPittsburghTennesseeAFC-WDenverHoustonKansas CityLAS VEGAS or PORTLANDOaklandSan DiegoThe scheduling would be changed to all for traditional rivalries each year such as Washington and Dallas. If they are in the same division that slot will be filled with an out of conferece game. Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampman Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 It's also entirely possible that in that time span a market we would reject today for an NFL team could become one... Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geoff Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Tried to not saturate states with teams. LA was a given but Washington state has Seattle and that's why I said OR Portland. Tennessee already has the Titans. Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winters in buffalo Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Portland isn't in Washington, so Seattle shouldn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Doh! Sorry I'm tired. Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Id add Los Angeles, Birmingham, San Antonio(if florida can have 3 so can texas), and ummmm portland maybe Proud owner of the Utah Pioneers of the Continnental Baseball League.PACKER BACKER FOREVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 To my mind, provided that stadiums can be built or renovated, Los Angeles and Toronto should be "guarantees". Beyond that, the "pickings get slim". I personally believe that Las Vegas would be a terrific market, save for the gambling issue... and I don't think that the NFL is ever going to conceed that point. Nor, are the casinos going to take NFL action off of their sports books. I'd say that San Antonio would have a legitimate shot. Memphis might seem to be an easy fit, but "Bud" Adams would fight that tooth-and-nail. Birmingham could be an intriguing Jacksonville-like market, i.e. a rabid football folowing and the only major-pro game in town. Same goes for the Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Hampton area. Vancouver or Portland could provide a regional rival for the Seahawks, though I'd give the Canadian city a shot first... exchange rate troubles and all. Still, if you're pushing the target date out a bit - say, to 2025 - I'd be willing to bet that the NFL would consider a rather intriguing choice: a European club. Namely, London. I know that the Monarchs folded, and that NFL Europe is becoming increasingly Germanic in tone. However, if we were talking about the "real deal" - the NFL - I think that a London-based franchise could be successful. So... those would be my choices for 2025: Los Angeles, Toronto, San Antonio... and London.Brian in Boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 I don't think the NFL is going to expand into Canada. Nor do I think their will be a team in Las Vegas. In order for that to happen Vegas Casinos would have to take NFL games off the board. Since the NFL is a big gambling sport I doubt the Casino's would do that thus no NFL team in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Wouldn't putting an NFL team in Toronto kill the CFL? As I see it, Toronto is the CFL's largest home base and market. Why would you have the two teams compete for a fan base and money? I know the seasons don't overlap totally, but I think the NFL would sap the money that would otherwise go into the CFL.The CFL is not like the NFL. I doubt the CFL could survive the loss of a major, if not the largest city/market in the league. At least the NFL had 29 (or 27?) other teams to fall back on when it moved out of Los Angeles. But an 8 team league would fail if it lost it's biggest market.As far as London goes, I don't see it happening. How could you build up a rivalry with your closest team 5 time zones and an 8 hour flight away? I'm sure the players' union wouldn't be to keen on the travel demands of a team in London.What about the money? Would the revenue sharing be the same with the fluctuating exchange rates between Canadian dollars, English pounds and the mighty U.S. dollar? Would they hold up?Fantasy financial situations aside, here would be my new cities:Los AngelesSan AntonioPortlandBirminghamthe following teams would move in case of financial reasons/no new stadium"Indianapolis moves to ColumbusMinnesota to Oklahoma CitySan Diego to Los Angeles (2nd team)Oakland to Sacramento Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralW91 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Los AngelesMemphisBirminghamOklahoma CityA lot of people have being saying San Antonio...that would be my first choice over Oklahoma City, but both teams in the WFL, and USFL received poor support. Did San Ant. have a CFL team?Still, I'd be happier if instead of NFL expansion, someone brought back the WFL!!!Indianapolis moves to ColumbusMinnesota to Oklahoma CitySan Diego to Los Angeles (2nd team)Oakland to Sacramento I can't see Sacramento getting a NFL team, do they have the stadium for it? Regarding Columbus, theyd have trouble getting dates at OSU, and I don't think even the NFL could outdraw the Buckeyes. www.ABAsite.tk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampman Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 San Antomio Texans were in the CFL the last year of US teams--they were formerly the Sacramento Gold Miners. Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodsep Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Birminham?????? Better in San Antonio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Indianapolis moves to ColumbusMinnesota to Oklahoma CitySan Diego to Los Angeles (2nd team)Oakland to Sacramento i dont think you could move a team to columbus, because we arent a big enough market with two teams on either side of us, i dont know about oklahoma city either, but oakland to sacramento and san diego to la makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookedThumb Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 L.A. (from Minnesota)TorontoSalt Lake CitySan JuanLas Vegas   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralW91 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Birminham?????? Better in San Antonio. I don't think so. When Birmingham has a team, they always draw better than San Antonio.In the WFL, Birmingham and memphis were the only teams to draw over 20k. In the USFL, Brimingham drew around 33-35k each year, compared to 15000 in the Gunslinger's only year. www.ABAsite.tk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampman Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Birminham?????? Better in San Antonio. I don't think so. When Birmingham has a team, they always draw better than San Antonio.In the WFL, Birmingham and memphis were the only teams to draw over 20k. In the USFL, Brimingham drew around 33-35k each year, compared to 15000 in the Gunslinger's only year. In the CFL San Antonio outdrew Birminham on average--Birmingham's best total was higher than San Antonio's, but San Antonio had a higher total and thus better average.San Antonio finished 12-6 in 1995, while Birmingham was 10-8. Both cities had the teams for one year--the Texans were in the CFL all 3 years of the US teams, with the first 2 as Sacramento Gold Miners. The Barracudas had 1 season, then the US experiment ended.In the first round of the playoffs San Antonio defeated Birmingham.San Antonio's total attendanec was 142,699 for 9 games--an average of 15,855.The biggest attendance was for a visit by the Calgary Stampeders featuring Doug Flutie.Birmingham's total attendanec was 120,858 for an average of 13, 429. Their biggest attendance was for a visit by the Hamilton Tiger Cats.They later had a low of only 5,289 for a game vs the Ottawa Rough Riders.So there is a league where overall San Antonio outdid Birmingham.By way of comparison Baltimore was the most successful US team overall, on the field and in the stands--their lowest attendance was 27, 321 higher than the other team's average attendance--that was a game vs Shreveport. Yes they had a larger and better stadium than the other US based teams, but they had no trouble drawing CFL type attendance (The Stampeders by way of example of rarley had attendance under 30,000 for several seasons--for CFL size stadiums--this is very good attendance)Baltimore also still has a contingent of CFL fans--I'm not too sure about the other teams except for puckguy being a Gold Miner fan...But then Baltimore has an NFL team again... Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 L.A. (from Minnesota)TorontoSalt Lake CitySan JuanLas Vegas SAN JUAN!!??! We are talking NFL not EXPOS baseball.Besides remember the WFL MEMPHIS SOUTHMEN? They were origionally the Toronto NORTHMEN, but the CFL threatend so they moved south. We dont want that to happen again. Canada has their own league, leave the NFL to America. Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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