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On 1/16/2023 at 11:53 AM, TBGKon said:

Location of any future Rays stadium is KEY.  If it remains in St Pete, it will have a spike in attendance and then settle out fast.  A stadium in Tampa proper will have more population to draw from and likely will carry over best.

 

Hadn't seen this news posted yet, but the St. Petersburg mayor on Monday selected a development team led by the Rays to redevelop Tropicana Field. The Rays proposal included the construction of a new 30,000-seat ballpark. 

 

This isn't a done deal, though. This is just a development agreement -- the city choosing a contractor who responded to a bid. The team still needs to commit to St. Pete, which is a separate agreement. Its owner said it remains in dialogue with Tampa. 

 

So it's progress, but not the end. 

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19 minutes ago, gosioux76 said:

 

Hadn't seen this news posted yet, but the St. Petersburg mayor on Monday selected a development team led by the Rays to redevelop Tropicana Field. The Rays proposal included the construction of a new 30,000-seat ballpark. 

 

This isn't a done deal, though. This is just a development agreement -- the city choosing a contractor who responded to a bid. The team still needs to commit to St. Pete, which is a separate agreement. Its owner said it remains in dialogue with Tampa. 

 

So it's progress, but not the end. 

I've been under the impression from folks around here who live in the area, that the location of Tropicana Field in St. Pete is one of the big drawbacks (in addition to the abandoned Home Depot they play in) in regards to local attendance. That nobody likes making the drive on a daily basis, as would season ticket holders specifically. Wouldn't building a new stadium in that exact location kinda be counterproductive?

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42 minutes ago, McCall said:

I've been under the impression from folks around here who live in the area, that the location of Tropicana Field in St. Pete is one of the big drawbacks (in addition to the abandoned Home Depot they play in) in regards to local attendance. That nobody likes making the drive on a daily basis, as would season ticket holders specifically. Wouldn't building a new stadium in that exact location kinda be counterproductive?

 

Reading some of the additional coverage from down there, apparently the idea is that having a stadium as the anchor of a broader development district will make the location more of a draw. So instead of only going their for a ballgame, it would feature restaurants, shops and probably living spaces that would make it more of a destination.

 

Not saying it'll work, just passing along what I gleaned from the reporting.

 

Otherwise, you're 100% right. Part of the debate has been that the team would be better off in the metro area's population center, in Tampa, and that moving there would definitely prove or disprove the notion of whether Tampa can really support Major League Baseball. I'm sure that's why the Rays have yet to fully commit to St. Pete, even as they pursue this development agreement. 

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25 minutes ago, gosioux76 said:

 

Reading some of the additional coverage from down there, apparently the idea is that having a stadium as the anchor of a broader development district will make the location more of a draw. So instead of only going their for a ballgame, it would feature restaurants, shops and probably living spaces that would make it more of a destination.

Exactly, they’re looking in the direction of what the Braves have done.

 

Tampa proper might be the preferable location, but if St Pete cooperating keeps the team in the Tampa Bay area, then so be it.

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Tropicana Field isn't in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, it's right off of 275 in downtown St. Pete. Not ideal, but nearly as much of a hassle as Glendale or Sunrise. This new hipster fantasy that the team would suddenly become a local institution and pack the house if they were in downtown Tampa instead is just that.

 

If you want attendance to become somewhat respectable, rig the schedule so that the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, and Phillies are the only visiting teams coming through.

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12 hours ago, GDAWG said:

 

 

HA!! That is hilarious.

 

Wellp—time to train them sights on Nashville!! 😄

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Good. Honestly? :censored: the A’s. If ownership is going to be this shameless about begging cities to pay for the majority of their toy while also keeping all of the profits, then they can kick rocks. Best solution for the A’s at this point? Contract them. Make it a Browns style deal where they can come back as an expansion team if someone else has the better financial ability to do so. If not? Relegate them to the past.  

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5 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

Good. Honestly? :censored: the A’s. If ownership is going to be this shameless about begging cities to pay for the majority of their toy while also keeping all of the profits, then they can kick rocks. Best solution for the A’s at this point? Contract them. Make it a Browns style deal where they can come back as an expansion team if someone else has the better financial ability to do so. If not? Relegate them to the past.  

 

MLB Players Association is not going to accept any type of contraction, even if it's a Browns style deal. 

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1 hour ago, GDAWG said:

 

MLB Players Association is not going to accept any type of contraction, even if it's a Browns style deal. 

Whether a shred of connection to being possible exists doesn't mean someone won't believe it to be possible.

It's where I sit.

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1 hour ago, FiddySicks said:

Good. Honestly? :censored: the A’s. If ownership is going to be this shameless about begging cities to pay for the majority of their toy while also keeping all of the profits, then they can kick rocks. Best solution for the A’s at this point? Contract them. Make it a Browns style deal where they can come back as an expansion team if someone else has the better financial ability to do so. If not? Relegate them to the past.  

Who else are you going to contract in this situation? Can't just be one team.

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9 minutes ago, Red Comet said:

 

The Marlins? And then move the Rays to Miami. 

I've always thought they should have moved the Rays to Miami so that they'd get a new stadium and Miami  would finally get a well-run, always-contending team. But there is no way contraction will ever happen, so they would've just been relocated.

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