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13 minutes ago, DEAD! said:

What it lacks though, is a proper stop at the airport. Yes there is one nearby LAX, but I think you still have to take a shuttle there. Maybe that is asking too much. 

Give it a year or two.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAX_Automated_People_Mover

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Line_(Los_Angeles_Metro)

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1 hour ago, pmoehrin said:

The only thing I can say for sure about Robert Moses is that, for better or worse, no other person did more to shape present-day New York than him.


something something made the trains run on time

 

ironically fitting here 

   

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8 minutes ago, LMU said:


i just begrudgingly said a nice thing about trains in LA, but I’m fortunate to balance that out with the note that this new extension will *still* require a bus to both LAX and the Rams/Clippers stadia. So close!

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6 minutes ago, Digby said:


i just begrudgingly said a nice thing about trains in LA, but I’m fortunate to balance that out with the note that this new extension will *still* require a bus to both LAX and the Rams/Clippers stadia. So close!

Yes to SoFi, no to LAX. It will in 2024 be a people mover train from the airport right to a passenger facility that contains a light rail station.

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6 minutes ago, LMU said:

Yes to SoFi, no to LAX. It will in 2024 be a people mover train from the airport right to a passenger facility that contains a light rail station.


The people mover looks more OAK than SFO. far as I’m concerned it’s a bus on tracks until proven otherwise! 

   

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2 minutes ago, Digby said:


The people mover looks more OAK than SFO. far as I’m concerned it’s a bus on tracks until proven otherwise! 

It's a people mover system, like what you'd find at Disney World. Specifically, it's a Bombardier Innovia APM 300 - an upgraded model of what you'd see at DFW or indeed SFO. In fact, it's the first 300 series installed in the US. I'm looking forward to it, taking the bus to the bus center or the C Line was kind of a pain.

 

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(A 300 series in Bangkok)

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On 5/26/2022 at 6:35 PM, Digby said:

I'd place a bet on a Union Station-Dodger Stadium gondola waaaay before one on a downtown LA Angels stadium.


All I need to know about the LA ART (Los Angeles Aerial Rapid Transit) Gondola is that it was proposed by Aerial Rapid Transit Technologies LLC, an entity created and controlled by McCourt Global. Yep... former Dodger owner Frank McCourt's outfit. Given the manner in which Frank's stewardship of the Dodgers came to a close - MLB concerns over the finances and operations of the team, an outside party being appointed by MLB to oversee the franchise's financials, and the club ultimately filing for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection - I'll pass on his gondola plan.

For the life of me, I can't understand why the Dodgers' current owners would want to be any more involved with McCourt than having to fork over the $14 million per year they've already agreed to as the cost for renting the Dodgers Stadium parking lots from an entity he holds a 50% stake in.    

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4 hours ago, DEAD! said:

 

When I went to LA for a weekend about three years ago, I was actually surprised how extensive the Metro subway/light rail system is. I stayed downtown and I took the metro to Hollywood, Santa Monica and USC. 

What it lacks though, is a proper stop at the airport. Yes there is one nearby LAX, but I think you still have to take a shuttle there. Maybe that is asking too much. 

 

It was supposedly a concession to the taxi lobby. (cabbie lobby?) Originally it was supposed to go all the way to the airport, IIRC.   Years later they approved the extension to LAX--for wayyyyy more money than it would had cost had they done that in the first place.

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7 hours ago, sayahh said:

 

It was supposedly a concession to the taxi lobby. (cabbie lobby?) Originally it was supposed to go all the way to the airport, IIRC.   Years later they approved the extension to LAX--for wayyyyy more money than it would had cost had they done that in the first place.

That and they opted to steer it towards the aerospace companies in El Segundo instead so employees could use it to commute but the industry almost entirely packed up and left by the time the train was built.

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18 hours ago, Digby said:

 

True, but, find a US city that has done more to build out its public transit system in the past 10 years than LA. Better late than never.

 

I'd place a bet on a Union Station-Dodger Stadium gondola waaaay before one on a downtown LA Angels stadium.

anytime i hear Union Station i think of:

 

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22 hours ago, DEAD! said:

 

When I went to LA for a weekend about three years ago, I was actually surprised how extensive the Metro subway/light rail system is. I stayed downtown and I took the metro to Hollywood, Santa Monica and USC. 

What it lacks though, is a proper stop at the airport. Yes there is one nearby LAX, but I think you still have to take a shuttle there. Maybe that is asking too much. 

We're talking about getting to LAX?

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Long Beach, the original intended home of the Angels, intrigues me, but I still don't think there's anywhere to put a stadium -- or, more to the point, there's nowhere to put the amount of surface parking a Los Angeles baseball stadium would demand.

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13 hours ago, the admiral said:

Long Beach, the original intended home of the Angels, intrigues me, but I still don't think there's anywhere to put a stadium -- or, more to the point, there's nowhere to put the amount of surface parking a Los Angeles baseball stadium would demand.

I pointed out way early in the thread that the proposed location, the current site of Long Beach Arena, already has massive parking structures nearby for the Aquarium of the Pacific and the cruise ship terminals. If they can come up with some kind of lease agreement that would solve a lot of the issue.

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2 hours ago, Dilbert said:

I knew things at the Coliseum were bad. I didnt realize they were this bad though.

 

https://oaklandside.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Coliseum-Concerns-5-22.pdf

 

Too bad we can't copy/paste off that document because there are some gems in there.

 

> It is well documented that there is a large cat population on the property

 

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