NFL 2023 Changes

[FiddySicks]

There’s really no way to fix how incredibly stupid that emaciated snot rocket horse looks. It’s one of the worst renderings I’ve ever seen on a sports logo. 

[oldschoolvikings]

17 minutes ago, BBTV said:

 

That's nice tinkering, but man does it look awkward to me.  I think this is a case of overthinking it... even for us uni-nerds.

I’d probably just agree with you.  Honestly I really don’t have a problem with the horse facing the same direction on both sides of the helmet. 

[Cujo]

15 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

There’s really no way to fix how incredibly stupid that emaciated snot rocket horse looks. It’s one of the worst renderings I’ve ever seen on a sports logo. 

 

Go To HeLl CyBeRhOrSe   JuSt GiVe Me AnY lEtTeR D wItH a HoRsE jUmPiNg OuT oF iT

[FinsUp1214]

I always find myself kind of torn with the Broncos.
 

On one hand, as a 90’s kid who grew up on the Utah side of Broncos territory, I was consistently exposed to the ‘97 rebrand and the success that immediately followed. Many people in my hometown were Broncos fans, so I saw hats and merch everywhere. Still do, actually. I was five when they rebranded, so to me, the current Broncos identity is really the only one I know and associate with a team that was as close to a hometown team as I know (though admittedly, I am not and never was a Broncos fan myself). I’d be perfectly fine with them continuing to wear it for many more years.
 

On the other hand, I actually think the classic “D” look is a great look. I especially like the color scheme; I think royal blue and orange, when balanced right, is an excellent color scheme. The uniforms were really solid, classic, no-nonsense football uniforms too. In short, there’s a lot I like about the classic look, notwithstanding my stronger familiarity to the current identity.

 

All in all, this may just be a long way of saying a blend of both worlds wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. The cyber horse logo in royal blue and orange, with a uniform akin to the classics, wouldn’t be a bad compromise to me. There’s aspects of both that I think are worth keeping and welding together, if that was ever an option the team wanted to pursue.

 

In any case, it amazes me that the current identity has lasted over a quarter of a century. It really doesn’t feel all that long ago, and to be honest, it’s never looked terribly dated to me either. It has somehow, someway, stood the test of time in my opinion, despite how open it was about pushing the envelope back then.

[-Akronite-]

I like the D logo but the Bronco head is perfect for a helmet, no idea why they'd want to go back personally.

 

The Broncos are a few adjustments away from having a look they could keep forever, IMO. The side panel thing works for them, on the jerseys at least. I'm glad that era of design is over but they are the exception to the rule, in a way. I don't have any memories of the old look, just own orange as the main color and you have plenty of distinction from Chicago.

[j'villejags]

Maybe they should fully turn heel and use Blucifer as the inspiration for their next bucking Bronco logo.

 

[Cujo]

4 minutes ago, j'villejags said:

Maybe they should fully turn heel and use Blucifer as the inspiration for their next bucking Bronco logo.

 

 

Every time i drive by this nightmare-of-a-statue I think of the old Broncos logo and how that likely inspired it.

[HOOVER]

4 hours ago, IceCap said:

As good a run as the Broncos had with the Cyber Horse 1) everything old is new again and 2) you can't stave that off with incompetence.

 

Denver won back to back Super Bowls in 1998 and 1999. Then they set the record for worst record for a defending champ in 2000 that stood until the Rams prolapsed in 2022. They won another when an all-time great defence carried the burnt out husk of Peyton Manning to a second title, but that was in 2015. It's been eight years and a parade of failed coaches and QBs, the last of which is on a team crippling contract if he can't turn his game around.

 

Sixteen years of nothing between 1999 and 2015. Eight more years of nothing since, and becoming the joke of the NFL thanks to Russell Wilson's LETS RIDE mantra and bad sandwich commercials. Sooner or later the ratio of bad football to good tips in the bad's favour. And then the classic brand, which is the opposite of the slick Cyber Horse/Nike panelled look, becomes appealing. 

Yeah, but, but…@Cujo said the Cyberhorse has “become a symbol of excellence around the league.”  

 

Look, I’m a longtime Chiefs fan, so it’s easy for me to hate on the Broncos and their fanbase…but this statement right here should make it easy for anyone to dog them.

[HOOVER]

This shows why a timeless classic is always better than what’s on-trend or the start of a new trend (like the 97 Broncos re-brand):

 

The problem with Navy/Orange is that it looks very similar to the Bears.  Probably not close enough to matter, but still a reason to consider going back to Royal/Orange:

 

I don’t ever want that Royal jersey or Royal pant, but this colorway was and would again become unique to the league, rather than one shared with another team:

 

 

 

[Cujo]

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The problem with Navy/Orange is that it looks very similar to the Bears. 

 

Teams who play eachother twice a decade. Who cares.

 

 

  

1 hour ago, HOOVER said:

 

^And that matchup happens once a decade. They look nothing alike when the game is played in Denver.

 

[SportsFan12]

35 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

Teams who play eachother twice a decade. Who cares.

Plus the Broncos use way more orange than the Bears, who use it as nothing more than a trim color aside from their alternates. This is a weak comparison. The Titans and Texans look very much alike when the Titans wear navy combos and they’re in the same division.

 

That being said, I do agree that a royal blue would work better for them, but I wouldn’t bring the Bears into it.

[FiddySicks]

I guess I would be fine with a switch to royal blue, as long as it was a darker shade and not that weird almost periwinkle shade they used to use. But I still think that, ultimately, navy looks better.

[tBBP]

Ehh, some see "classic", some see "cliché"...

 

...Personally, I see the current Broncos identity—as originally intended, meaning navy over white—as a modern classic all its own.  And believe it or not, I've never cared for the 70s/80s/half-the-90s uniforms...and for the record, I'm not one of those people who espouse such-and-such team(s) wearing such-and-such uniform sets just because said team(s) won a 'ship or some in them. (That argument to me is just about as tired as the ongoing debate between modern and traditional not to mention the "honor the past, embrace the present/future" cliché, and probably more so.) That said, I do believe a/ those colors should definitely return—or  at least a me royal hue or blue—and that b/ the uniform sets before those Morton/Elway-era sets,  the three-year iteration on which the '94 throwbacks were based, are the ones the Broncos should look at basing an update on. 

 

As far as logos go...except/unless in throwback alternate form, that old horse-in-D logo needs to stay exactly where it is: in the past. I know nostalgia is a helluva drug, but not even that is strong enough to get me to believe it—or even an updated version of it—should come back. (I wouldn't be opposed to a well-done capital D mark on its own, though.) From a utility perspective, the current Horseheads beats that old logo any day in every way (versatility/embroidery/digital applications, etc.) And for having been designed way back in '95/'96, it still looks remarkably modern even by today's standards. Could it be improved upon? Sure, but it'd have to be a good update. 

 

 

 

[Sec19Row53]

30 minutes ago, tBBP said:

Ehh, some see "classic", some see "cliché"...

 

...Personally, I see the current Broncos identity—as originally intended, meaning navy over white—as a modern classic all its own.  And believe it or not, I've never cared for the 70s/80s/half-the-90s uniforms...and for the record, I'm not one of those people who espouse such-and-such team(s) wearing such-and-such uniform sets just because said team(s) won a 'ship or some in them. (That argument to me is just about as tired as the ongoing debate between modern and traditional not to mention the "honor the past, embrace the present/future" cliché, and probably more so.) That said, I do believe a/ those colors should definitely return—or  at least a me royal hue or blue—and that b/ the uniform sets before those Morton/Elway-era sets,  the three-year iteration on which the '94 throwbacks were based, are the ones the Broncos should look at basing an update on. 

 

As far as logos go...except/unless in throwback alternate form, that old horse-in-D logo needs to stay exactly where it is: in the past. I know nostalgia is a helluva drug, but not even that is strong enough to get me to believe it—or even an updated version of it—should come back. (I wouldn't be opposed to a well-done capital D mark on its own, though.) From a utility perspective, the current Horseheads beats that old logo any day in every way (versatility/embroidery/digital applications, etc.) And for having been designed way back in '95/'96, it still looks remarkably modern even by today's standards. Could it be improved upon? Sure, but it'd have to be a good update. 

 

 

 

Luv your rusty Lincolns!!!

[DCarp1231]

 

[GrayJ12]

7 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

 

Can't wait for someone to wear "ll" on a uniform

[Bmac]

7 hours ago, IceCap said:

As good a run as the Broncos had with the Cyber Horse 1) everything old is new again and 2) you can't stave that off with incompetence.

 

Denver won back to back Super Bowls in 1998 and 1999. Then they set the record for worst record for a defending champ in 2000 that stood until the Rams prolapsed in 2022. They won another when an all-time great defence carried the burnt out husk of Peyton Manning to a second title, but that was in 2015. It's been eight years and a parade of failed coaches and QBs, the last of which is on a team crippling contract if he can't turn his game around.

 

Sixteen years of nothing between 1999 and 2015. Eight more years of nothing since, and becoming the joke of the NFL thanks to Russell Wilson's LETS RIDE mantra and bad sandwich commercials. Sooner or later the ratio of bad football to good tips in the bad's favour. And then the classic brand, which is the opposite of the slick Cyber Horse/Nike panelled look, becomes appealing. 

Nothing you've said here is wrong, but I'm not sure most people see it that way. Fans of teams that haven't won multiple Super Bowls in their lifetime see a uniform worn by the Broncos for 3 Super Bowl victories and associate that with success. 3 Super Bowl victories during the 25 year lifespan of a uniform is pretty damn good, especially when the previous uniforms were worn for 30 years without any Super Bowl championships.

 

It's valid to say the uniforms have become stale and should be replaced, especially if the franchise is facing a downturn. But to say the uniforms should be replaced because the poor Broncos haven't won the Super Bowl in 8 years and it had been 15 years before that? No.

[HOOVER]

2 hours ago, Cujo said:

 

Teams who play eachother twice a decade. Who cares.

 

 

  

 

^And that matchup happens once a decade. They look nothing alike when the game is played in Denver.

 

Right…two Navy, Orange and White teams with Navy helmets and Navy facemasks and White & Orange logos. 
 

Or, if they’re going through a redesign/rebrand, they could consider going back to their previous colors, Royal & Orange, and be the only team in the league with that identity.

[SailorOfSilence102]

I'm not trying to be mean, but I've never even considered for a moment that the Broncos looked that noticeably like the Bears. The uniform color use and logos are nothing alike, and even the colors themselves, in addition to the hierarchy of them being different, aren't that like super similar ? The Broncos shade of blue is a bit brighter, the Bears shade of orange is a bit more faded whereas the Broncos is super saturated. I really don't think it's a problem.

 

[tBBP]

1 hour ago, GrayJ12 said:

Can't wait for someone to wear "ll" on a uniform

 

Julio Jones did in Atlanta for about a decade...