CaliforniaGlowin Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 LED courts incoming? 1 Quote Last updated 5/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbush24 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, the admiral said: It does not go back to Jordan and the Bulls. Social media is too much a part of the NBA's current weirdness, as you said, and that wasn't there then. It wasn't there for the weird Jordan-LeBron interregnum and wasn't really even there for a lot of early LeBron, either. Up through the 2000s, the NBA was still broadly recognizable as a normal sports league. It's only fairly recently that it's become something else. In my experience, it seems that over the past 5-7 years the NBA has stayed very popular on social media and national TV, but has become much less relevant in real life. And maybe it's just because I live in Ohio and LeBron isn't here anymore, but pre-covid if I walked up to a random group of guys who are into sports I would expect there to be some interest in the NBA. Not anymore. It's starting to feel more like a fringe sport like hockey. And I honestly believe that the whole AAU culture of the league (which the uniform/brand mess strongly attributes to) is the primary reason for that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelicanfan Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 Quote New NBA court designs by me here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Zach Lowe has the embargo drop. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38772965/how-bold-new-nba-season-tournament-courts-came-fruition Some samples: 1 1 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, bbush24 said: And I honestly believe that the whole AAU culture of the league (which the uniform/brand mess strongly attributes to) is the primary reason for that. Stern was a visionary but also a traditionalist in that he firmly believed every team should have a star player so that local fans are engaged with the team and want to see them play. That seems so quaint and provincial now. 3 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frylock Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, CaliforniaGlowin said: LED courts incoming? That’s been my hunch once it was suggested that the courts were going to be special for the tournament. Aaaaand nevermind. I can only wish it were LED courts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I'm surprised at how much I like some of these courts (others, like the Bucks', are hideous) but I don't get why they all have to be the same generic template. 2 Quote POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 So we're doing 2006 concepts in real life. Baseball jerseys with filled-in plackets can't be far behind. 3 1 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanshepherd Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 These gotta be hideous on purpose I refuse to believe the league brass thinks these look good. Its to make people think “What the hell is that” so they google it and find out the NBA In-Season tournament exists, which is the real reason they look like that. Because design wise this is such an obvious failure. 4 Quote i have unquantifiable corpses on my conscience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 The NBA is really wasting their time with this tournament. Players don't care. Fans don't care. Yawn. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, the admiral said: Stern was a visionary but also a traditionalist in that he firmly believed every team should have a star player so that local fans are engaged with the team and want to see them play. That seems so quaint and provincial now. This may just be me, but I really think this “NBA turning point” was the 2011 lockout. That’s when the “weird” started, for lack of a better term. 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frylock Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 The Blazers’ court should have been plaid. I mean, the organization is run by a bunch of Spaceballs anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGlowin Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 The template's meh but the more color the better for me! Quote Last updated 5/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbush24 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 These courts are unbelievably stupid but it's just another step in Silver making the league as cheap and gimmicky as possible. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, bbush24 said: These courts are unbelievably stupid but it's just another step in Silver making the league as cheap and gimmicky and possible. It’s a shame the CBA got approved earlier this year, the league could do with a strike or lockout. 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacat_12 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cujo said: The NBA is really wasting their time with this tournament. Players don't care. Fans don't care. Yawn. I can't wait to see the reaction when we see the first team raise an "NBA Cup Champions" banner to the rafters. It'll be even better if it ends up being a non-playoff team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JELKK Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Wasn't the NBA's entire reasoning for not having fully paint covered courts back in the day was that they just thought it wouldn't be aesthetically pleasing on TV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGlowin Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 if only the heat still had vice colors!!! 1 Quote Last updated 5/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalCookie Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Remember when the Bucks had to can their cream alternates because they'd blend in with the court and mess up the CGI sponsors? I guess that problem got fixed, because otherwise there's about to be a lot of players disappearing into the green (or black, or purple, or blue, etc) screen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 49 minutes ago, bbush24 said: In my experience, it seems that over the past 5-7 years the NBA has stayed very popular on social media and national TV, but has become much less relevant in real life. And maybe it's just because I live in Ohio and LeBron isn't here anymore, but pre-covid if I walked up to a random group of guys who are into sports I would expect there to be some interest in the NBA. Not anymore. It's starting to feel more like a fringe sport like hockey. And I honestly believe that the whole AAU culture of the league (which the uniform/brand mess strongly attributes to) is the primary reason for that. This may be a market by market thing because I'm in Boston and the Celtics (who've traditionally been #4 in the city, very occasionally briefly popping up to #3) are more relevant locally now than ever. It helps that they're consistently contending now whereas they had 3 years of contention and 25 years of mostly sucking in the years prior to the Tatum era. It also helps that the Patriots suck now and the Red Sox have withdrawn themselves from relevance. I can't tell you how often I used to ask bartenders if they'd put the Celtics game on the TV in the 2010s and it was like asking them to turn on The Biography Channel. The wider shift I think is less AAU and more about the Silver administration's fetish for anything soccer does. In fairness, the way European league soccer took off in the 2010s in the States did suggest that people (especially younger generations) will watch sports from far away, grow attachments to teams without a local connection, and chase the groups of star players more than the organization itself. (Also that you can sell a new set of jerseys to people every year, and change jerseys can grab from the extreme end of the Crayola box instead of just a color swap.) This whole tournament is a straight rip-off of the FA Cup and similar tournaments, neglecting of course that those events are usually MORE traditional and LESS centralized than the EPL or Bundesliga etc. The other factor is the push to turn sport into Streaming TV Content, with the actual tickets to games becoming so expensive that it's only really tenable as an expense-account thing for city socialites. There's been no real consequence for that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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