Roger Clemente Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 If you can't beat the pathetic Washington Capitals in a regular 3-shot shooutout, you don't deserve to win. Keep in mind that shootouts are one-on-one. Whatever you may think of the Washington Capitals as a team is thrown out the window when it comes to the shootout because the one player the shooters are facing is the biggest goaltender in the league.That was one awesome goal though.--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 If you can't beat the pathetic Washington Capitals in a regular 3-shot shooutout, you don't deserve to win. Keep in mind that shootouts are one-on-one. Whatever you may think of the Washington Capitals as a team is thrown out the window when it comes to the shootout because the one player the shooters are facing is the biggest goaltender in the league.That was one awesome goal though.--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Yeah, I get that ... but last time I checked, Kolzig was washed up and I can't even name three skaters on Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Alexander Ovechiken get used to that name hes going to be a star. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Yeah, I get that ... but last time I checked, Kolzig was washed up and I can't even name three skaters on Washington. When it comes to one-on-one, any goaltender can be a superstar. And height has an advantage. (Though I personally wouldn't take Kolzig #1 in a shootout.)--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampman Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 How was that better than playing a 10 or 20 minute OT period?What is wrong with a tie, anyway? My sentiments-It doesn't matter how "nice" the goal was, or how long it went on--it's still a shootout, and it's still artificial. Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMMF Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 How was that better than playing a 10 or 20 minute OT period?What is wrong with a tie, anyway? I think you play to win the game. I kind of feel cheated after a tie, like so what? There should be a winner and a loser to every game IMO. The NFL has ties. Why don't they just go right to a field goal contest? Or a QB challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmee Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 The NFL has ties. Why don't they just go right to a field goal contest? Or a QB challenge? The NFL should adopt the college football style of overtime, where each team has a chance to score and the first team to outscore its opponent in an "inning" gets the win. There should be no ties. Baseball plays until there is a winner, basketball plays until there is a winner. Hockey now plays until there is a winner. The only reason people don't complain much about NFL ties is because they occur so rarely. There's so many ways to score in a footbal game that rarely is the score tied after regulation, and then it's just first team to score a field goal from there.If you don't think a sudden death shootout like that is exciting, especially when it's your home team, you've probably got no pulse. It's okay to embrace new things, guys. The world's foremost practitioners of professional tag-team wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Why don't they just get rid of sudden death? Road team scores, home team can try and match it. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMMF Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 The NFL has ties. Why don't they just go right to a field goal contest? Or a QB challenge? The NFL should adopt the college football style of overtime, where each team has a chance to score and the first team to outscore its opponent in an "inning" gets the win. There should be no ties. Baseball plays until there is a winner, basketball plays until there is a winner. Hockey now plays until there is a winner. The only reason people don't complain much about NFL ties is because they occur so rarely. There's so many ways to score in a footbal game that rarely is the score tied after regulation, and then it's just first team to score a field goal from there.If you don't think a sudden death shootout like that is exciting, especially when it's your home team, you've probably got no pulse. It's okay to embrace new things, guys. No, I've been a party to two shootouts at home already and I'd much rather have had Seattle take the point for the tie than the two for the win in the shootout. It's not hockey, it's a skills competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 It's the game stripped down to its bare essence when all other means have failed. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmee Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 It's the game stripped down to its bare essence when all other means have failed. Great way of putting it. The world's foremost practitioners of professional tag-team wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMMF Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 It's the game stripped down to its bare essence when all other means have failed. It's a team sport stripped down to an individual achievement. Where does that have any place in a team sport to decide a game?We'll never agree, I'm sure, and while I'm pretty positive you guys see my side as I see yours, to me it will always be a tainted way to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 While I can see the argument that it turns a team sport into an individual thing, I think it's a much better alternative than a tie. Until they can come up with a better alternative to eliminating ties than a shootout, then I'm all for the shootouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Having not watched the NHL since its return, and having seen shootouts only in ECHL games where the outcome was decided fairly quickly, I have a "newbie to the shooutout" question.Team A gets 3 shots in the shoout, as does Team B.If, after each team gets three, each has the same number of goals in the shootout. Team A then shoots and scores on its 4th shot. Is the game over at that point, or does Team B get the opportunity to tie it back up? Team B gets to try to match it. After 3 each, the first unanswered goal wins. Likewise, if either team goes up 2-0 in the shootout, they forego the third shot. I knew about the 2-0, but wasn't sure if it was unanswered or the "sudden death" the NHL has been touting... the rule book only refers to "sudden death" with no explanation, which is kind of stupid.My thanks for the clarification. I always thought any 'sudden death' system in which one team could be seen as having an advantage (*cough* "NFL") is patently unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatCityEnforcer Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 This was pretty nuts Personally, I don't have a problem with how the NHL does shootouts...seeing I'm used to em in the UHL (it's a best of 5, but they just go right to the shootout instead of having the 5 min. 4 on 4 OT period)...And 15 rounds is nothing....last year I watched a 21 round shootout between Danbury and Elmira in the UHL...most exciting thing I ever saw. FANTASY TEAMSHousatonic U. Dragons (NCFA Basketball): 16-6 (8-4 Conf.)--National Runner-UpJersey State U. (NCFA Football): Inaugural Year - 2006Motor City Silverhawks (WArFL): 9-4 (3rd--National Conf.)Lehigh Valley Ironmen (WAmFL): Inaugural Season--2006New England Marauders RFC (RLI): 6-0-7 (6th place)Detroit Spirit (AA): 3-6 (T-4th--Patriot League)Brooklyn Atlantics (IBF): 10-5 (1st--Appalachian Conf.)Boston Mariners RFU (WRU): Coming Soon!New York Americans (SHL): Inaugural Season - 2006-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCBoy Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 What a goal, when I saw the goal I said to myself. "Was that Marek Malik??? The SAME GUY that stood like a brick wall in Vancouver??? What did he just do???" AMAZING!It'll be interesting to see if he's a new candidate for Shoot-out specialist....not.He was the 4th to last shooter for the Rangers and he new he probably wasn't gonna score since he really wasn't much of a shooter/deaker so he tried something flashy and it worked. His celebration was classic, he made it seem like he's scores goals like that ALL THE TIME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 That stream doesn't seem to work for me. But, while I admit that a shootout is exciting, it's also a very arbitrary way to decide a game, and therefore, I feel the need to hate on it.I see nothing wrong with ties, personally. They've been in the game of hockey for ages. But, if you're going to this kind of system, go with the 3/2/1/0 system that Curty mentions (and I've mentioned on here in the past). I'd rather see a win in the run of play than in the shootout.Oh, and if they ever decide to carry the shootout into the playoffs, rather than just playing overtime until there's a winner? I swear I will turn my back on the NHL. Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmee Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 Oh, and if they ever decide to carry the shootout into the playoffs, rather than just playing overtime until there's a winner? I swear I will turn my back on the NHL. The NHL prides itself on having the most rigorous playoffs in the world. It's the only major sport where a team has to win 4 games in every round. I swear by the overtime mehtod used in the playoffs and wouldn't have it any other way. It's just impossible for teams to play 3OT games during the regular season, get on a plane at 3 AM, and play again the next night.And if you're having trouble getting that stream to play, just google "malik goal" cause there's plenty of sites with the video up. The world's foremost practitioners of professional tag-team wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 The NHL prides itself on having the most rigorous playoffs in the world. It's the only major sport where a team has to win 4 games in every round. Submitted for your approval: The NBA playoffs On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMMF Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 The NHL prides itself on having the most rigorous playoffs in the world. It's the only major sport where a team has to win 4 games in every round. Submitted for your approval: The NBA playoffs Yes, but only as of recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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