See Red Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Wow... that's bad.It would appear, with how frequently these types of things have been happening, the NHL has a problem on it's hands. To my knowledge, this is the worst thing that's happened since the Bertuzzi incident which was 3 years ago. Hardly frequent. (Although I think there was a similar incident to this in the AHL a couple years ago)You must be thinking that late hits are serious offenses. That is child's play compared to this kind of stuff.I mean in addition the those late hits, which, at least one of them looked like a perfect example of a guy head hunting and the play resulting in a dangerous cheap shot. He should be gone from the League for good. If that doesn't stop this from happening in the future then nothing will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL FANATIC Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 You guys remember when Marty McSorely swung and hit Donald Brashear on the side of the head and Brashear fell backwards and hit his head on the ice after his helmet fell off?McSorely got a 23 game suspension (the rest of the year) and then had it extended to a full year from the incident.It effectively ended his career.What Simon did was WAY, WAY worse, slashing him in the throat/face. The player did not fall as bad as Brashear, but the act was far worse.Simon has to be gone for at least the rest of the year after this. Probably should be longer. JUSTIN STRIEBEL | PORTFOLIO | RESUME | CONTACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate15 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 You know, I've been watching hockey all my life (which admittedly isn't all that long) and it seems like today it's different than it was even ten years ago. These guys run around with their sticks up constantly nowadays. Every time I see pushing and shoving after a whistle I see players on both sides go in there with their sticks up. That to me is completely unacceptable. Sticks should be on the ice, not up in the air around peoples' eyes. Just seems like it's becoming more and more acceptable to be irresponsible with their sticks.Then you get the real idiots like Simon and McSorley a few years ago using their sticks as weapons to peoples' faces and you wonder why hockey players have a reputation for being lumberjacks on skates to non-hockey-fans. Did this kind of crap happen back thirty, forty years ago before helmets became the norm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 It's always been around, just not to this extent. I remember a Bruins v Jets game back in 79 or 80, where Brad Park and Doug Lecuyer (!) got into a stick swinging fight, Park took it to Lecuyer, he got a 2- and a 5, Lecuyer got ejected (mainly due to Boston being in the league about 60 years longer then the Jets were).There's simply no respect any more in the NHL. It also dosen't help that Colin Campbell gives the stupidest punishments and suspensions in league history. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean69 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Let's not forget the run by Hollwegg that started this!!!! Anyone who has played or watch the game would know that Hollwegg threw a dirty hit!!!! If Simon gets 10 then Hollwegg should get 5!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 You guys remember when Marty McSorely swung and hit Donald Brashear on the side of the head and Brashear fell backwards and hit his head on the ice after his helmet fell off?McSorely got a 23 game suspension (the rest of the year) and then had it extended to a full year from the incident.It effectively ended his career.What Simon did was WAY, WAY worse, slashing him in the throat/face. The player did not fall as bad as Brashear, but the act was far worse.Simon has to be gone for at least the rest of the year after this. Probably should be longer.When looking at intent, you are right that Simon's act was much worse. The intent to injure was more blatant. It's funny that all of these things happen in the latter part of the year (McSorley, Bertuzzi, Simon) so they just get whatever the rest of the year is.I totally forgot that McSorely had the extension to the full year. (And I agree with Greg that Bertuzzi would have gotten more if not for the work stoppage--I just think the NHL should not have factored that into the most dangerous/cowardly thing ever done in sports). So perhaps this should go into next year. Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakwood Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I hope he gets a huge suspension and big fine. There's no reason for this. It was much worse then Ray Emery's attempt to decapitate Maxim Lapierre, and for that I still woul've liked to see about a 10 game suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Let's not forget the run by Hollwegg that started this!!!! Anyone who has played or watch the game would know that Hollwegg threw a dirty hit!!!! If Simon gets 10 then Hollwegg should get 5!!!I love when people come on here and make jokes.I am not the most knowledgeable hockey person around and when I saw the Hollwegg hit, I could not decide if it was legal. Even if it was not, it's a two minute penalty case closed.This was battery with a weapon. A felony if it happens on the street. You don't get suspended for roughing or checking from behind. You do for swinging a stick at someone's head. Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Let's not forget the run by Hollwegg that started this!!!! Anyone who has played or watch the game would know that Hollwegg threw a dirty hit!!!! If Simon gets 10 then Hollwegg should get 5!!!You're an idiot. Clean hit, all the way. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyboy1 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 No takers on the Simon jersey then? Click here to read Third String Goalie - The Hockey Jersey of the Day Blog Click here to see my hockey and baseball jersey collection online ?You don?t like to see 20 kids punching 20 other kids. But it?s not a disgrace, It?s hockey.? - Michael Farber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Anyone who attacks another like that should not be playing hockey. Period. Id kick him out of the league, there is no room for disgusting acts like that. Proud owner of the Utah Pioneers of the Continnental Baseball League.PACKER BACKER FOREVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budbowl77 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 FREE CHRIS SIMON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Anyone who attacks another like that should not be playing hockey. Period. Id kick him out of the league, there is no room for disgusting acts like that.After seeing this replay 75 times, I totally agree, Pat. He's got a history. He needs to go, for good. He's a punk with no respect for the game, his opponents, or his team even. There's no place in this game for a criminal like this. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Anyone who attacks another like that should not be playing hockey. Period. Id kick him out of the league, there is no room for disgusting acts like that.After seeing this replay 75 times, I totally agree, Pat. He's got a history. He needs to go, for good. He's a punk with no respect for the game, his opponents, or his team even. There's no place in this game for a criminal like this.The NHL wouldn't ban him for life for this... but I think they'll come down with a hard suspension.I am expecting them to give him the rest of season + playoffs. --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatSleepJeep Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 No takers on the Simon jersey then? Whatcha want for it?I'll give you $5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Anyone who attacks another like that should not be playing hockey. Period. Id kick him out of the league, there is no room for disgusting acts like that.After seeing this replay 75 times, I totally agree, Pat. He's got a history. He needs to go, for good. He's a punk with no respect for the game, his opponents, or his team even. There's no place in this game for a criminal like this.Couldn't you at least come up with a new line every time you post in one of these NHL threads, greggy?Anyway, the initial hit was, in my opinion, from behind, and therefore a bit dirty. However, there is NO EXCUSE for Simon's actions. None whatsoever. No explanation will ever be satisfactory, no circumstances even remotely relevant. A good long suspension and hefty fine are in order here.I still think Bertuzzi's was worse, because he didn't face the guy up. But this isn't far off. Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0dotcom Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 No takers on the Simon jersey then? Whatcha want for it?I'll give you $5.I'll give ya a pair of dirty underpnats, but I want one of that pair back. He ain't worth it all.If he did this on a street he'd be in jail. Fighting is one thing, this is assault. I'd hand him a life suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Anyone who attacks another like that should not be playing hockey. Period. Id kick him out of the league, there is no room for disgusting acts like that.After seeing this replay 75 times, I totally agree, Pat. He's got a history. He needs to go, for good. He's a punk with no respect for the game, his opponents, or his team even. There's no place in this game for a criminal like this.Couldn't you at least come up with a new line every time you post in one of these NHL threads, greggy?Anyway, the initial hit was, in my opinion, from behind, and therefore a bit dirty. However, there is NO EXCUSE for Simon's actions. None whatsoever. No explanation will ever be satisfactory, no circumstances even remotely relevant. A good long suspension and hefty fine are in order here.I still think Bertuzzi's was worse, because he didn't face the guy up. But this isn't far off.I use the same line because it always fits. When they stop acting like punks with no respect for the game, I'll stop saying it. Deal. You choose to get all sensitive when I comment on stuff like this. That makes it a 'you' problem.Anyway, I pretty much agree with you about the initial hit, it was dirty. At first, I thought Simon sitting for remainder of the season was enough...at first, but the more I saw that replay, the worse it looked. Simon used his stick as a weapon, in a much more vicious manner than Marty McSorely. I look at the 'intent' moreso than the result which is why IMO this is much worse than Bertuzzi's hit on Steve Moore and much, much worse that McSorely's hit on Brashear. Couple the intent to do serious f'in damage with Simon's history of thuggery, he's earned a permanent vacation in my opinion. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Ah, ok. I figured you were just serving up the usual line because all us puckheads hate the NBA. Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I disagree about the dirtiness of the original hit. Although he approached Simon from behind, it looks to me like he did everything he could to make it shoulder-to-shoulder (of course, I only saw the replay a couple of times, as I don't have the benefit of youtube at work.)However, Simon needs to be punished hard. I'd give him the rest of the year, and at least 20 next year too. But Campbell won't, he's as gutless as Burke was. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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