NBA Uniform Changes 2008-09

[SteveR]

Correct. They are a throwback, but I forget from when. But they were originally an alternate, back in the mid-1970s.

Having watched several Bullets-Spurs playoff series from the mid-70s, I can attest they weren't alternates. (The NBA DIDN'T HAVE alternates then) They were the one-and-only home set.

I also remember the set that had the "humped" piping along the back side of the shorts. (yecch)

[OMMF]

- Atlanta, when 2009 comes around, should go with a red one with the same template except "ATL" on the chest

I hate when teams use ATL, PHX, MIA, or any other wacky abbreviation for their city names. They are a sports team, not an airport. If they can't afford the additional cost to spell out the whole word, then leave it off. IMO, it looks like total CRAP!!!! I would rather turn the channel rather than watch a team wear such crappy, piss poor lettering across their chest. I don;t know what moron ever thought that would be a good idea, but I wish that it would be a trend that would die a horrible death and NEVER be resurrected. I am taking your quote as an example, not out of disrespect to your opinion. This is just my opinion.

my opinion is that both of you are right, in a way. i think the hawks have been set up to make that ATL red alt since they got this new identity, as it was in their set, but only used on the @ss of the shorts. but that doesn't mean its a good idea. i personally have no problem with it, mostly because only the cities that it works for have been using it. true, it will not stand the test of time, but most NBA teams aren't gunning for that anyway(jersey sales!!). it would really bother me if teams that it didn't make sense for started using it just because it was "cool". ATL and PHX work great to abbreviate the city name, but not make it hard to understand. I would hate to see POR, SAC, DEN, TOR, MIN, etc. because those just don't seem to automatically refer to a city. whatever, my 1/50th of a dollar.

Except that almost all of the teams you listed don't use those abbreviations as airport call signs.

Portland = PDX, which I use all the time to refer to the city

Sacramento = SMF

Toronto = YYZ

Minneapolis = MSP

So, assuming that Atlanta, Phoenix and Miami are using airport call signs, you would see some unexpected abbreviations if you gave one to each team.

[eRay]

- Atlanta, when 2009 comes around, should go with a red one with the same template except "ATL" on the chest

I hate when teams use ATL, PHX, MIA, or any other wacky abbreviation for their city names. They are a sports team, not an airport. If they can't afford the additional cost to spell out the whole word, then leave it off. IMO, it looks like total CRAP!!!! I would rather turn the channel rather than watch a team wear such crappy, piss poor lettering across their chest. I don;t know what moron ever thought that would be a good idea, but I wish that it would be a trend that would die a horrible death and NEVER be resurrected. I am taking your quote as an example, not out of disrespect to your opinion. This is just my opinion.

my opinion is that both of you are right, in a way. i think the hawks have been set up to make that ATL red alt since they got this new identity, as it was in their set, but only used on the @ss of the shorts. but that doesn't mean its a good idea. i personally have no problem with it, mostly because only the cities that it works for have been using it. true, it will not stand the test of time, but most NBA teams aren't gunning for that anyway(jersey sales!!). it would really bother me if teams that it didn't make sense for started using it just because it was "cool". ATL and PHX work great to abbreviate the city name, but not make it hard to understand. I would hate to see POR, SAC, DEN, TOR, MIN, etc. because those just don't seem to automatically refer to a city. whatever, my 1/50th of a dollar.

Except that almost all of the teams you listed don't use those abbreviations as airport call signs.

Portland = PDX, which I use all the time to refer to the city

Sacramento = SMF

Toronto = YYZ

Minneapolis = MSP

So, assuming that Atlanta, Phoenix and Miami are using airport call signs, you would see some unexpected abbreviations if you gave one to each team.

well it turns out you are right, which is even worse. i can't imagine any team using the examples you posted, if they do i might pass away. i have never heard of PDX being used to refer to portland, so maybe its all about where you live.

[SmoothieX]

Well, not bad boys, but still prior to the flaming horsey. I actually like these better than the current alts

Whoa - I don't know what's more retina searing: Those red unis or Shaq's shoes!

[AAO]

They're not airport references, although they may be what you see on the arrival/departure screens. They are urbanisms--derived from the people of the cities. ATL is very popular in Atlanta, even before the release of the movie 'ATL'. PHX simply sounds like Phoenix, its cool.

The only other team in the league it may make sense for would be NYC. All though, I don't think the Knicks would submit themselves to that. The Hornets could pull off 'NOLA' if they really wanted to, which i doubt. (The ASG game alt logo with NOLA was awesome though). None of the other teams in the league would ever use the three letter terming. It's just not feasible.

[batman1211]

PHX simply sounds like Phoenix, its cool.

No, PHX would sound like "fix" or "fax" but in no way would it ever in any way sound like "Phoenix". ...And, it is not cool. It is stupid.

[ohryan]

Too bad Sioux City, Iowa doesn't have an NBA team. Their airport code is SUX.

[ShinyHubCaps]

PHX simply sounds like Phoenix, its cool.

No, PHX would sound like "fix" or "fax" but in no way would it ever in any way sound like "Phoenix". ...And, it is not cool. It is stupid.

Not when you pronounce it phonetically, but think about it. If it's on a jersey, it stands for a location or a nickname. There are no nicknames like that (except like UW-Green Bay Phoenix), so it has to be a location. What other locations fit the pattern of P_H_X?

And when he said it's cool, I took it as "it's all right or acceptable / not an issue." It's trendy, but I don't know if that's the same thing as the other definition of "cool."

[llbigdomll]

They didn't. When the Pistons went to the teal, they had a brick-colored uniform as their alternate.

Almost positive that they did. Looking for pics...

are you talking about this?

[tohasbo]

They didn't. When the Pistons went to the teal, they had a brick-colored uniform as their alternate.

Almost positive that they did. Looking for pics...

are you talking about this?

that's the one.

[tohasbo]

Charlotte Bobcats: There are rumours about a rebranding of the orange and white unis, according them with the template of the blue, which will become the away first option...

Milwaukee Bucks: According with the 2-years-rule they will wear a red alternate uni the next season...

Minnesota Timberwolves: Since 96-97 they are wearing that ugly 90's uni, and it's time to rebrand it, and also the logo... Blue&Green, of course.

Portland Trail Blazers: They wanted to change it on summer, so i suppose that it will be some changes there...

Toronto Raptors: They will introduce a black alternate, and if the league allows them to make it maybe Magic or Rockets will want the same for their alternates...

Apart from that, I am hoping for some rebranding in Golden State and Clippers, and if it's possible a Grizzlies alternate.

Sorry about my english, I am from Barcelona and, you know...

http://taylorwolves.blogspot.com

I agree with Charlotte going blue...

but other than that I am not sure about the rest of the teams here...

[FiddySicks]

They're not airport references, although they may be what you see on the arrival/departure screens. They are urbanisms--derived from the people of the cities. ATL is very popular in Atlanta, even before the release of the movie 'ATL'. PHX simply sounds like Phoenix, its cool.

The only other team in the league it may make sense for would be NYC. All though, I don't think the Knicks would submit themselves to that. The Hornets could pull off 'NOLA' if they really wanted to, which i doubt. (The ASG game alt logo with NOLA was awesome though). None of the other teams in the league would ever use the three letter terming. It's just not feasible.

Actually I think the Kings could pull it off. Sac is a really common "Urbanism" in this area.

[TruColor]

They didn't. When the Pistons went to the teal, they had a brick-colored uniform as their alternate.

Almost positive that they did. Looking for pics...

are you talking about this?

that's the one.

No...if you read the thread, you'll see that the uniform in question was the Red alt the Pistons wore BEFORE the Teal-horse-head design. Which, someone found pics of and then we discussed.

The Dark Red alt - used during the horse-days - wasn't in question.

[TFoA]

They're not airport references, although they may be what you see on the arrival/departure screens. They are urbanisms--derived from the people of the cities. ATL is very popular in Atlanta, even before the release of the movie 'ATL'. PHX simply sounds like Phoenix, its cool.

The only other team in the league it may make sense for would be NYC. All though, I don't think the Knicks would submit themselves to that. The Hornets could pull off 'NOLA' if they really wanted to, which i doubt. (The ASG game alt logo with NOLA was awesome though). None of the other teams in the league would ever use the three letter terming. It's just not feasible.

Actually I think the Kings could pull it off. Sac is a really common "Urbanism" in this area.

I don't think that the Kings would want to run around with Sac on their chest.

[mantleisthebest7]

I've been curious about New Jersey. They have had the same set since the mid-late 90's (like the T'Wolves), and I was curious if anyone has heard anything on them?

[chuckymack]

There was a lot of hullaballoo when they first announced they were moving to Manhattan(or whatever burrough it is), but I've heard nothing concrete since the initial rush of speculation.

[jimmyjames]

- Atlanta, when 2009 comes around, should go with a red one with the same template except "ATL" on the chest

I hate when teams use ATL, PHX, MIA, or any other wacky abbreviation for their city names. They are a sports team, not an airport. If they can't afford the additional cost to spell out the whole word, then leave it off. IMO, it looks like total CRAP!!!! I would rather turn the channel rather than watch a team wear such crappy, piss poor lettering across their chest. I don;t know what moron ever thought that would be a good idea, but I wish that it would be a trend that would die a horrible death and NEVER be resurrected. I am taking your quote as an example, not out of disrespect to your opinion. This is just my opinion.

my opinion is that both of you are right, in a way. i think the hawks have been set up to make that ATL red alt since they got this new identity, as it was in their set, but only used on the @ss of the shorts. but that doesn't mean its a good idea. i personally have no problem with it, mostly because only the cities that it works for have been using it. true, it will not stand the test of time, but most NBA teams aren't gunning for that anyway(jersey sales!!). it would really bother me if teams that it didn't make sense for started using it just because it was "cool". ATL and PHX work great to abbreviate the city name, but not make it hard to understand. I would hate to see POR, SAC, DEN, TOR, MIN, etc. because those just don't seem to automatically refer to a city. whatever, my 1/50th of a dollar.

Except that almost all of the teams you listed don't use those abbreviations as airport call signs.

Portland = PDX, which I use all the time to refer to the city

Sacramento = SMF

Toronto = YYZ

Minneapolis = MSP

So, assuming that Atlanta, Phoenix and Miami are using airport call signs, you would see some unexpected abbreviations if you gave one to each team.

well it turns out you are right, which is even worse. i can't imagine any team using the examples you posted, if they do i might pass away. i have never heard of PDX being used to refer to portland, so maybe its all about where you live.

Most Portlanders refer to Portland in this manner for about as long as I have lived here (14 years). It is probably the most used shorthand for people who live here. It would probably look out of place on a jersey, though. Kinda like putting and affectionate nickname, like "Pookie", on your business cards.

[TruColor]

Most Portlanders refer to Portland in this manner for about as long as I have lived here (14 years). It is probably the most used shorthand for people who live here. It would probably look out of place on a jersey, though. Kinda like putting and affectionate nickname, like "Pookie", on your business cards.

Nice analogy. I like that.

[tBBP]

They're not airport references, although they may be what you see on the arrival/departure screens. They are urbanisms--derived from the people of the cities. ATL is very popular in Atlanta, even before the release of the movie 'ATL'. PHX simply sounds like Phoenix, its cool.

The only other team in the league it may make sense for would be NYC. All though, I don't think the Knicks would submit themselves to that. The Hornets could pull off 'NOLA' if they really wanted to, which i doubt. (The ASG game alt logo with NOLA was awesome though). None of the other teams in the league would ever use the three letter terming. It's just not feasible.

Actually I think the Kings could pull it off. Sac is a really common "Urbanism" in this area.

So is "Cowtown", from what I see, presently being in the vicinity of central/north Califoolya.

(How can I be 15 miles from the Pacific Coast and yet still look around and see nothing but MOUNTAINS and cows all over the daggone place? I see enough hills and mess back east! It is some nice scenery out this way, though.)

Having said that, outside the ATL and NYC (since PHX already carries that "code" on their alt jerseys), about the only other "cool" mark I couls see popping up on a jersey might actually be "305"--which ain't actually a word at all, but bear in mind that down south, we refer to the region we from by area code QUITE frequently--or at least we do in FL. (For those who still tryna catch up..."305" is the area code for "Miami".) However, having said that, one could imagine the confusion that could come from seeing "305" across the chest of a basketball jersey with a jersey number up underneath it.

(Oh--and if the Sonics relocate, I wouldn't be too surprised to see an "OKC" 3rd/alt pop up at some point down the line.)

BUT...this IS all just one man's opinion...my two rusted Lincolns.

[mania]

(Oh--and if the Sonics relocate, I wouldn't be too surprised to see an "OKC" 3rd/alt pop up at some point down the line.)

I think they'll end up using Oklahoma Sonics/whatevers instead of Oklahoma City Sonics/whatevers. If they do though, an OKC is an inevitability.