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Rickey Henderson & Jim Rice.

1: I didn't even know Rickey had retired.

2: I can't wait to hear Rickey's speech. If he refers to himself in the 3rd person and calls himself the greatest of all time, I will mark out.

3: Good to see that Jim Rice got in, after every writer outside of Boston basically said that he wasn't HOF material. Way to go.

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Still no Bert?

Man, they :censored:in :censored:ed that :censored: up. They need to do it over again.

He should get in for that line alone. Come to think of it, I wonder if he ever does get in, it would be because of so many years as a broadcaster after playing. They put broadcasters in too, right?

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Congrats to Ricky the shoe-in and Jim Ed, who I wish I could have seen play. I trust people who saw him when they say he should be in, even though for me he is a bit borderline. But he is a eally good guy and everyone is happy for him, and I am too.

But seriously: Bert Blyleven and Tim Raines need to be in. Now.

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Congratulations to Rickey!!! He always was funny as a athletic one and as a guy. :lol:

Now, Jim Rice... I'M HAPPY for him...!!! Although I never saw him actually as a player, I always liked him because of his history in the Red Sox. When a good friend sent me a photo with his signature, I was the happiest fan on the face of this Earth!!! :D

If I'm remember well, Jim Rice is the first Afro-American ever to be inducted to the Hall of Fame as a Red Sox member...! It's repairing the ugly history of my beloved Red Sox with the Afro-Americans.

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Sportscenter just said that Mark McGwire only got 21.9% of the necessary vote.

I'm surprised he got that many...

Rice in the HOF? Fina-:censored:in-lee! Long overdue.

Rickey? Yeah, he belongs there.

Bert Blyleven? Screwed blue and tattooed yet again.

Andre Dawson? He was a Cub. Wait 'till next year...

Lee Smith, Jack Morris, Tommy John? Sorry. Can't see them in.

Tim Raines and Alan Trammell didn't get the respect they probably deserve. They may not be HOF material, but each rates more than 25% of the vote. Same with Dave Parker, Don Mattingly and Dale Murphy - Parker snorted his way out of the HOF, while Mattingly has openly said he's not HOF material and Murphy played in a veritable wasteland where the media's concerned.

And would the HOF please expel whatever two jokers cast votes for Jay friggin' Bell?

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I guess Rice's victory is a victory for the lobbying power of the Red Sox more than his skills on the field. You look at players comparable by numbers and it opens a Pandora's Box over who should and shouldn't be awarded admission.

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I guess Rice's victory is a victory for the lobbying power of the Red Sox more than his skills on the field. You look at players comparable by numbers and it opens a Pandora's Box over who should and shouldn't be awarded admission.

As you are living in Buenos Aires as me, I'll go to your home to aim the lobbying power of the Red Sox in your face!!! :lol:

Nah, I'm kidding. I dissent with your words but you have all the right to entitle your opinion. :)

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I guess Rice's victory is a victory for the lobbying power of the Red Sox more than his skills on the field. You look at players comparable by numbers and it opens a Pandora's Box over who should and shouldn't be awarded admission.

Agreed 100%. If there were a Hall of The Really, Really Good, I'd vote in Jim Rice tomorrow. He is not a hall of famer. Sorry.

Rickey was a no doubter.

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Sportscenter just said that Mark McGwire only got 21.9% of the necessary vote.

I'm surprised he got that many...

Rice in the HOF? Fina-:censored:in-lee! Long overdue.

Rickey? Yeah, he belongs there.

Bert Blyleven? Screwed blue and tattooed yet again.

Andre Dawson? He was a Cub. Wait 'till next year...

Lee Smith, Jack Morris, Tommy John? Sorry. Can't see them in.

Tim Raines and Alan Trammell didn't get the respect they probably deserve. They may not be HOF material, but each rates more than 25% of the vote. Same with Dave Parker, Don Mattingly and Dale Murphy - Parker snorted his way out of the HOF, while Mattingly has openly said he's not HOF material and Murphy played in a veritable wasteland where the media's concerned.

And would the HOF please expel whatever two jokers cast votes for Jay friggin' Bell?

Jack Morris was a great postseason pitcher and the winningest pitcher in the 80s

Tommy John won 288 games a redefined coming back. He was the first to comeback from major elbow surgery before him pitchers just retired. He deserves it

So does Blyleven, Dawson, and Raines.

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Sportscenter just said that Mark McGwire only got 21.9% of the necessary vote.

I'm surprised he got that many...

Rice in the HOF? Fina-:censored:in-lee! Long overdue.

Rickey? Yeah, he belongs there.

Bert Blyleven? Screwed blue and tattooed yet again.

Andre Dawson? He was a Cub. Wait 'till next year...

Lee Smith, Jack Morris, Tommy John? Sorry. Can't see them in.

Tim Raines and Alan Trammell didn't get the respect they probably deserve. They may not be HOF material, but each rates more than 25% of the vote. Same with Dave Parker, Don Mattingly and Dale Murphy - Parker snorted his way out of the HOF, while Mattingly has openly said he's not HOF material and Murphy played in a veritable wasteland where the media's concerned.

And would the HOF please expel whatever two jokers cast votes for Jay friggin' Bell?

Jack Morris was a great postseason pitcher and the winningest pitcher in the 80s

Tommy John won 288 games a redefined coming back. He was the first to comeback from major elbow surgery before him pitchers just retired. He deserves it

So does Blyleven, Dawson, and Raines.

Morris maybe. The rest? Forget it. Look, some eras just don't produce as many hall of famers as others do. That era is one of them. It produced a lot of really good players. The great players from that era are already in. The rest of these guys are getting play simply because I think people are nervous there may be a season where no one gets in.

Don Mattingly shouldn't be in any discussion about getting in to the hall of fame unless he's in line for a ticket.

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The HOF is a major joke. The HOF needs to establish a new criteria for inducting players into the HOF. The fact that 20+ writers could leave Ricky Henderson off the list is astounding.

First off ever player who is part of the 3000 hit club has been a first ballot hall of fame since the 60's. That fact alone should have put Ricky on every ballot.

But then...Ricky has a set of awards and accomplishments that trumps his 3000 hit accomplishment. I mean just look at it...

1. Stolen Base King

2. Runs Scored Champion

3. Lead-Off HR Record

4. 10x All-Star

5. 1990 MVP

6. 297 HR and 1115 RBI

I mean how can 20+ writers leave Ricky off the ballot.

BTW..I hated Ricky as a player, but he's a no brainer and should be on every ones ballot. But the fact that some voters have a hard time in identifying who a hall of famer is and who isn't really pisses me off. The voting is brutally flawed.

Corky something voted for Matt Williams over Ricky Henderson. Idiots like that shouldn't even have a vote. And some schmo even voted for Jesse Orosco. The credibility of the voting isn't all that great.

End Rant.

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I never saw Jim Rice play, but I saw a ton of Rickey Henderson. One thing about henderson that stuck out to me more than anything else was just how much he loved to play baseball. I can't say I've ever seen someone who loved playing baseball more than him, and can pretty much guarantee that I never will. Congrats to him, he deserved it.

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I guess Rice's victory is a victory for the lobbying power of the Red Sox more than his skills on the field. You look at players comparable by numbers and it opens a Pandora's Box over who should and shouldn't be awarded admission.

Agreed 100%. If there were a Hall of The Really, Really Good, I'd vote in Jim Rice tomorrow. He is not a hall of famer. Sorry.

Rickey was a no doubter.

You're wrong. He is. He was just voted in.

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This is what irks me about the national sports media.

Rice is definitely legit and always was. It took that long for the writers to get over his attitude.

Blyleven was one of the most feared pitchers of his time, but was never considered a superstar by the writers and broadcasters. So he's not a Hall of Famer, regardless of his numbers.

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I guess Rice's victory is a victory for the lobbying power of the Red Sox more than his skills on the field. You look at players comparable by numbers and it opens a Pandora's Box over who should and shouldn't be awarded admission.

Agreed 100%. If there were a Hall of The Really, Really Good, I'd vote in Jim Rice tomorrow. He is not a hall of famer. Sorry.

Rickey was a no doubter.

You're wrong. He is. He was just voted in.

None of that changes the fact that he shouldn't have been voted in. Someone mentioned earlier that Jesse Orosco got votes too. In my mind that settles the debate on "he was voted in." :D

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I mean how can 20+ writers leave Ricky off the ballot.

BTW..I hated Ricky as a player, but he's a no brainer and should be on every ones ballot. But the fact that some voters have a hard time in identifying who a hall of famer is and who isn't really pisses me off. The voting is brutally flawed.

It's really simple: Rickey's personality rubbed some of the people who have votes the wrong way, and to the point where they wouldn't vote for him...which is ridiculous because some of the numbers that Rickey's amassed in his career are just astounding. I mean, when guy played for the Red Sox, he at one point had stolen more bases BY HIMSELF than the team did while he was in the big leagues (July 1979-April 2002). That is :censored: ing ridiculous.

For people to not vote for him because he rubbed him the wrong way (I remember reading this one article from this guy who basically said that he was shocked that such a "self-centered idiot" could have as amazing a career as he did) is just dumb. He should've matched or beaten the Tom Seaver record. That's just my opinion.

Then again, my opinion is biased because I absolutely LOVE the fact that when he broke the record for all-time runs, he slid into home after hitting a home run, and the

with Lou Brock standing right by him, no less! Hilarious.
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