Gothamite Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 BOTTOM LINEThe AFL was enjoying the same success as the NHL was during the 90sWait, what? How so? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Well, they're currently enjoying the success the NHL had circa November 1994.Nobody cares about arena football on any higher level. The teams aren't civic institutions, they're arena tenants. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETROJR79 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 BOTTOM LINEThe AFL was enjoying the same success as the NHL was during the 90sWait, what? How so?Well Gots when the AFL signed with NBC back in 03 NBC treated the TV deal as if they were still doing the AFC schedule unlike ABC only televised the opening week and the ArenaBowl. Like the NHL the AFL was slowly moving up and had a shot of overtaking the NHL since they still has not recovered from the 04-05 cancelation but unfortunately the AFL suffered the same fate. BOTTOM LINE I feel the same way about the MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 BOTTOM LINEThe AFL was enjoying the same success as the NHL was during the 90sWait, what? How so?Well Gots when the AFL signed with NBC back in 03 NBC treated the TV deal as if they were still doing the AFC schedule unlike ABC only televised the opening week and the ArenaBowl. Like the NHL the AFL was slowly moving up and had a shot of overtaking the NHL since they still has not recovered from the 04-05 cancelation but unfortunately the AFL suffered the same fate. BOTTOM LINE I feel the same way about the MLS.The NHL was also able to sell out more of its games than the AFL and was much healthier financially. The players also commanded significantly higher salaries throughout. To compare the two is at best a joke and at worst a sign that someone bought the bill of goods David Baker (May crawdads feast on his ankles) was selling.FWIW, the AFL celebrated its season when the NHL wasn't playing by folding Detroit, Indiana, and Carolina....with Indiana being a naked attempt to keep expansion fees artificially inflated. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 BOTTOM LINEThe AFL was enjoying the same success as the NHL was during the 90sWait, what? How so?Well Gots when the AFL signed with NBC back in 03 NBC treated the TV deal as if they were still doing the AFC schedule unlike ABC only televised the opening week and the ArenaBowl. Like the NHL the AFL was slowly moving up and had a shot of overtaking the NHL since they still has not recovered from the 04-05 cancelation but unfortunately the AFL suffered the same fate. BOTTOM LINE I feel the same way about the MLS.I still don't see the comparison. The AFL didn't "suffer the same fate" - quite the opposite.The NHL came back from its hiatus prepared for the future. Looks like the AHL's hiatus has killed the league. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 BOTTOM LINEThe AFL was enjoying the same success as the NHL was during the 90sWait, what? How so?Well Gots when the AFL signed with NBC back in 03 NBC treated the TV deal as if they were still doing the AFC schedule unlike ABC only televised the opening week and the ArenaBowl. Like the NHL the AFL was slowly moving up and had a shot of overtaking the NHL since they still has not recovered from the 04-05 cancelation but unfortunately the AFL suffered the same fate. BOTTOM LINE I feel the same way about the MLS.The NHL hasn't seen the kind of success they are getting now, after the lockout, in the last 16 to 20 years.Not the best, by a long shot, but the NHL is doing much, much better than the direction it was headed in... Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 BOTTOM LINEThe AFL was enjoying the same success as the NHL was during the 90sWait, what? How so?Well Gots when the AFL signed with NBC back in 03 NBC treated the TV deal as if they were still doing the AFC schedule unlike ABC only televised the opening week and the ArenaBowl. Like the NHL the AFL was slowly moving up and had a shot of overtaking the NHL since they still has not recovered from the 04-05 cancelation but unfortunately the AFL suffered the same fate. BOTTOM LINE I feel the same way about the MLS.The NHL was also able to sell out more of its games than the AFL and was much healthier financially. The players also commanded significantly higher salaries throughout. To compare the two is at best a joke and at worst a sign that someone bought the bill of goods David Baker (May crawdads feast on his ankles) was selling.FWIW, the AFL celebrated its season when the NHL wasn't playing by folding Detroit, Indiana, and Carolina....with Indiana being a naked attempt to keep expansion fees artificially inflated.You mean the attempted-to-be-sold-on-eBay Indiana Firebirds? lolGod though I loved Firebirds games at Conseco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 There's suppose to be an announce on Monday about the so called resurrection of the Arena League known as AFL 1, it may be back after all and the offices will be located in Tulsahttp://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=407&articleid=20090926_223_B4_Anewar52339 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 The teams holding out til 2011 will be in, I have a feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 This paragraph from the story intrigues me:Tulsa would compete in the higher level of a two-tiered league consisting of previous af2 and AFL franchise, along with possible entries from rival indoor leagues. Any speculation on the tiers? Is this essentially the end of AF2, but with most teams moving to AF1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Also, here's an article from the Associated Press, with the same story, plus a little more.http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iHL-qQb8fgpxyTeDV_50JtJLU8QgD9AU0FV00http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orl-sportsarena-26092609sep26,0,5783316.storyJust by skimming this Google link, here is what I am seeing:IN- Arkansas Twisters- Spokane Shock- Oklahoma City Yard Dawgz- Iowa Barnstormers- Orlando Predators- Tulsa Talons- Utah Valley Thunder (formerly AIFA, moving from Orem to Salt Lake)OUT- Kansas City Brigade- Utah BlazeUNSURE- San Jose Sabercats- Albany Firebirds- Amarillo DustersMan, I hope Tampa Bay comes back..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannerman Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 This list of teams from ArenaFan has a nice breakdown on who has commented about going where Olympic Broadcaster Logos - BevReview.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/northwest/story/896185.htmlHere is a good story with info from The New Tribune, from the Tri-Cities, Washington market... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannerman Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Announced during the press conference call:Arizona Rattlers Arkansas Twisters Bossier-Shreveport Battle Wings Central Valley Coyotes Chicago (no word on whether they're the Rush or another team) Iowa Barnstormers Jacksonville (name TBD) Kentucky Horsemen Milwaukee Iron Oklahoma City Yard Dawgz Orlando Predators Spokane Shock Tennessee Valley Vipers Tri-Cities Fever Tulsa Talons Utah Thunder (formerly Utah Valley Thunder of AIFA) If the quality and demeanor of the phone call was an indication of the professionalism of this league, avoid it now. Olympic Broadcaster Logos - BevReview.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Arena football is like the Two and a Half Men of sports. It shouldn't exist, and you wish it didn't, but by Jove, here it is. Still. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Announced during the press conference call:Arizona Rattlers Arkansas Twisters Bossier-Shreveport Battle Wings Central Valley Coyotes Chicago (no word on whether they're the Rush or another team) Iowa Barnstormers Jacksonville (name TBD) Kentucky Horsemen Milwaukee Iron Oklahoma City Yard Dawgz Orlando Predators Spokane Shock Tennessee Valley Vipers Tri-Cities Fever Tulsa Talons Utah Thunder (formerly Utah Valley Thunder of AIFA) If the quality and demeanor of the phone call was an indication of the professionalism of this league, avoid it now.Here's the press release:http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3910763Also says 24 teams have applied for the league, and that it will have a minimum of 16 teams. Additional teams will be announced by October 9th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKwell Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Got something for you... here is a list of the initial 16 teams of Arena Football 1, a league formed on September 28, 2009 in Tulsa, Oklahoma to replace the defunct Arena Football League and af2. Some of the teams are from both leagues, plus some other leagues:Arizona Rattlers (Phoenix, AZ)Arkansas Twisters (North Little Rock, AK)Bossier-Shreveport Battle Wings (Bossier City, LA)Central Valley Coyotes (Fresno, CA)Chicago (Chicago, IL)Iowa Barnstormers (Des Moines, IA)Jacksonville (Jacksonville, FL)Kentucky Horsemen (Lexington, KT)Milwaukee Iron (Milwaukee, WI)Oklahoma City Iron Dawgz (Oklahoma City, OK)Orlando Predators (Orlando, FL)Spokane Shock (Spokane, WA)Tennessee Valley Vipers (Huntsville, AL)Tri-Cities Fever (Kennewick, WA)Tulsa Talons (Tulsa, OK)Utah Valley Thunder (West Valley City, UT)Hopefully, a total of 24 teams will form the league. "Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy." Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Might this streamlining of the various indoor leagues actually work out to be the best thing? If afl2 is gone and the strongest teams from the other leagues all join together, I think the sport of arena football would be stronger. I am correct in interperting that afl2 will go by the wayside, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Got something for you... here is a list of the initial 16 teams of Arena Football 1, a league formed on September 28, 2009 in Tulsa, Oklahoma to replace the defunct Arena Football League and af2. Some of the teams are from both leagues, plus some other leagues:Arizona Rattlers (Phoenix, AZ)Arkansas Twisters (North Little Rock, AK)Bossier-Shreveport Battle Wings (Bossier City, LA)Central Valley Coyotes (Fresno, CA)Chicago (Chicago, IL)Iowa Barnstormers (Des Moines, IA)Jacksonville (Jacksonville, FL)Kentucky Horsemen (Lexington, KT)Milwaukee Iron (Milwaukee, WI)Oklahoma City Iron Dawgz (Oklahoma City, OK)Orlando Predators (Orlando, FL)Spokane Shock (Spokane, WA)Tennessee Valley Vipers (Huntsville, AL)Tri-Cities Fever (Kennewick, WA)Tulsa Talons (Tulsa, OK)Utah Valley Thunder (West Valley City, UT)Hopefully, a total of 24 teams will form the league.Tannerman beat you to it.Might this streamlining of the various indoor leagues actually work out to be the best thing? If afl2 is gone and the strongest teams from the other leagues all join together, I think the sport of arena football would be stronger. I am correct in interperting that afl2 will go by the wayside, right?The af2 is dead. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Thanks. I (obviously) never noticed they omitted the "l". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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