Cujo Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Congratulations to the quintessential family man, Phil Mickelson, on his triumph at The Matsters earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I was rooting against Tiger. Not because of his recent transgressions, but because I am a Phil fan. Also, I'm a big Jack Nicklaus fan and I don't want Tiger to take his major record. So, I'm glad Tiger didn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I play golf left handed. You can probably guess who I wanted to win. Not that it matters but, I was rooting against Tiger because of his recent transgressions. Sorry but you don't get to up the lives of a whole bunch of people and then go win The Masters. Karmic justice prevailed today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 When it comes to Phil vs Tiger its no contest, you have to root for Phil. Phil Mickelson is one of the ultimate good guys, even before the Tiger's personal life became exposed he was kind of surly and distant to fans on the course. While even after choking and making bad shots, Phil Mickelson's demeanor never changes he is the same smiling guy who handles it with class. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 It sounded from the galleries at the Masters as they would have been pleased with a Tiger win. I thought it was interesting that Tigers game seemed to get worse as the 4 days went on! Mikkelsen played a blinder from the 12th onwards. I thought getting a birdie on that hole is what really set the run on the back 9 up! He does seem like a really decent guy, who has been through a lot in the last year that wasn't self inflicted. A well deserved win for sure!! 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I get what you are saying and I am not saying that the sex scandals will never be referred to, but Clinton's historical legacy is unlikely, in my view, to rest on that. It might get some play because there isn't all that much else to it. JFK is a good example of what I mean here. Yes people still remember his philandering, but his serious historical legacy is built far more around the Cuba Missile Crisis, the Bay of Pigs, his inaugural address, etc etc. Tiger might well have his sex stuff as a large footnote in his story, but its his skills as a golfer that will define his career.No, he really isn't. JFK's "dalliances" were kept quiet during his presidency. If the press knew about them they didn't write about them. JFK's transgressions weren't part of an impeachment and at no point during his presidency did his flings dominate the news every day. Other than the fact that they were both Democrats, there is no comparison to be made between Kennedy and Clinton in this particular context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I get what you are saying and I am not saying that the sex scandals will never be referred to, but Clinton's historical legacy is unlikely, in my view, to rest on that. It might get some play because there isn't all that much else to it. JFK is a good example of what I mean here. Yes people still remember his philandering, but his serious historical legacy is built far more around the Cuba Missile Crisis, the Bay of Pigs, his inaugural address, etc etc. Tiger might well have his sex stuff as a large footnote in his story, but its his skills as a golfer that will define his career.No, he really isn't. JFK's "dalliances" were kept quiet during his presidency. If the press knew about them they didn't write about them. JFK's transgressions weren't part of an impeachment and at no point during his presidency did his flings dominate the news every day. Other than the fact that they were both Democrats, there is no comparison to be made between Kennedy and Clinton in this particular context.I was comparing JFK and Woods, rather than JFK and Clinton. 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I get what you are saying and I am not saying that the sex scandals will never be referred to, but Clinton's historical legacy is unlikely, in my view, to rest on that. It might get some play because there isn't all that much else to it. JFK is a good example of what I mean here. Yes people still remember his philandering, but his serious historical legacy is built far more around the Cuba Missile Crisis, the Bay of Pigs, his inaugural address, etc etc. Tiger might well have his sex stuff as a large footnote in his story, but its his skills as a golfer that will define his career.No, he really isn't. JFK's "dalliances" were kept quiet during his presidency. If the press knew about them they didn't write about them. JFK's transgressions weren't part of an impeachment and at no point during his presidency did his flings dominate the news every day. Other than the fact that they were both Democrats, there is no comparison to be made between Kennedy and Clinton in this particular context.I was comparing JFK and Woods, rather than JFK and Clinton.Whatever. The argument remains the same. Replace Clinton with Tiger Woods, impeachment with 24 hour news cycle, and Democrats with whatever apples and oranges similarity JFK has with Tiger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 I get what you are saying and I am not saying that the sex scandals will never be referred to, but Clinton's historical legacy is unlikely, in my view, to rest on that. It might get some play because there isn't all that much else to it. JFK is a good example of what I mean here. Yes people still remember his philandering, but his serious historical legacy is built far more around the Cuba Missile Crisis, the Bay of Pigs, his inaugural address, etc etc. Tiger might well have his sex stuff as a large footnote in his story, but its his skills as a golfer that will define his career.No, he really isn't. JFK's "dalliances" were kept quiet during his presidency. If the press knew about them they didn't write about them. JFK's transgressions weren't part of an impeachment and at no point during his presidency did his flings dominate the news every day. Other than the fact that they were both Democrats, there is no comparison to be made between Kennedy and Clinton in this particular context.I was comparing JFK and Woods, rather than JFK and Clinton.You can't compare JFK and Woods. The eras are so vastly different. I thought you had conceded that point already.EDIT: or what 'Red said. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 So, for all the proclamations and prepared statements of "The New Tiger", post-Masters, he still came off as a petulant, moody little who can't reconcile with the idea of being the ultimate winner at everything, didn't he?I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Tiger spent Sunday night robotically plowing some piece of strange. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Looks like that Nike Commercial could be very costly to Tigerhttp://backporch.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/tiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters/?icid=main|aim|dl4|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fbackporch.fanhouse.com%2F2010%2F04%2F14%2Ftiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters%2F www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Looks like that Nike Commercial could be very costly to Tigerhttp://backporch.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/tiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters/?icid=main|aim|dl4|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fbackporch.fanhouse.com%2F2010%2F04%2F14%2Ftiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters%2FI don't think she's leaving Tiger just because he shot a stupid shoe commercial.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Am I the only one that thinks JFK is most known for being shot? Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Looks like that Nike Commercial could be very costly to Tigerhttp://backporch.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/tiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters/?icid=main|aim|dl4|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fbackporch.fanhouse.com%2F2010%2F04%2F14%2Ftiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters%2FI don't think she's leaving Tiger just because he shot a stupid shoe commercial....No but he was trying to work things out with her and it says she was so angry that she is now closing that door. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Am I the only one that thinks JFK is most known for being shot? Just sayin'Well, you were born in like 1999, so it really depends on when one was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Looks like that Nike Commercial could be very costly to Tigerhttp://backporch.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/tiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters/?icid=main|aim|dl4|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fbackporch.fanhouse.com%2F2010%2F04%2F14%2Ftiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters%2FI don't think she's leaving Tiger just because he shot a stupid shoe commercial....No but he was trying to work things out with her and it says she was so angry that she is now closing that door.Again, I don't think resurrecting Earl Woods' voice for a Nike ad is the reason she's decided to put ink to paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Looks like that Nike Commercial could be very costly to Tigerhttp://backporch.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/tiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters/?icid=main|aim|dl4|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fbackporch.fanhouse.com%2F2010%2F04%2F14%2Ftiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters%2FI don't think she's leaving Tiger just because he shot a stupid shoe commercial....No but he was trying to work things out with her and it says she was so angry that she is now closing that door.Again, I don't think resurrecting Earl Woods' voice for a Nike ad is the reason she's decided to put ink to paper.Exactly. It wasn't like she was thinking "You know I was just about over the parade of skanks he was with but then I saw that damned weird-ass commercial..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Yeah!Why should she be bent out of shape that he's trying to make money off the scandal he created? It's not like he promised to put his family before his career and his marketing interests for a little while. Doesn't she have any priorities?Women. Just can't figure them out. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Looks like that Nike Commercial could be very costly to Tigerhttp://backporch.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/tiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters/?icid=main|aim|dl4|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fbackporch.fanhouse.com%2F2010%2F04%2F14%2Ftiger-woods-divorce-rumors-swirl-after-masters%2FI don't think she's leaving Tiger just because he shot a stupid shoe commercial....No but he was trying to work things out with her and it says she was so angry that she is now closing that door.Again, I don't think resurrecting Earl Woods' voice for a Nike ad is the reason she's decided to put ink to paper.While Tiger has a very tenuous relationship with Peter Kostis for years, his interview after his Sunday round was telling since he only talked golf, always answered with, "I", and never mentioned family. CBS Interview following Sunday's RoundWe can debate Phil vs. Tiger later, but Tiger is still ultra competitive while Phil tells us it is OK if he plays his best, but finishes does not finish first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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