2010 NCAA Football Thread

[Kevin W.]

UConn Huskies?

BCS?

NO!!!!

Fixed. The fact that any Big East team is getting an automatic bid to a BCS bowl game while far-superior teams like Boise State, Ohio State, and Stanford are fighting for a spot is a travesty.

You know if there was a playoff system the Big East would still be hogging a spot, right? I know you didn't bring it up, but any way you slice it it is what it is

But yeah, UConn as the representative of the Big East in the BCS. This oughta be fun hilarious to watch

Surely there could be a system implemented for revoking a school's BCS bid for that season if the conference doesn't perform as well as expected.

[dfwabel]

UConn Huskies?

BCS?

NO!!!!

Fixed. The fact that any Big East team is getting an automatic bid to a BCS bowl game while far-superior teams like Boise State, Ohio State, and Stanford are fighting for a spot is a travesty.

You know if there was a playoff system the Big East would still be hogging a spot, right? I know you didn't bring it up, but any way you slice it it is what it is

But yeah, UConn as the representative of the Big East in the BCS. This oughta be fun hilarious to watch

Surely there could be a system implemented for revoking a school's BCS bid for that season if the conference doesn't perform as well as expected.

Why should there be "a system" since The Big East was one of the conferences who signed up to be a part of the BCS and got the larger bowl payoffs together?

Think about it, if you owned a business, would you sign a contract to take you out of a larger deal if your gross revenue did not meet the gross revenue of an "outsider"?

[Kevin W.]

Make it a condition of joining. Tell them they don't get in if they don't agree to it. I'm sure there won't be many piss-poor seasons like this one in the future.

[dfwabel]

Make it a condition of joining. Tell them they don't get in if they don't agree to it. I'm sure there won't be many piss-poor seasons like this one in the future.

Oh Kevin W.

Remember that the Big East helped form the BCS when they had Miami and VT. They were members of the Bowl Alliance, the previous "cartel" before both the BigTen and Pac-10 signed up, so they are an original member. Why would an OG make that such a clause?

[FiddySicks]

Even though I'm disappointed that this year couldn't be the year where Boise State or TCU got their chance to play in the National Championship game, I absolutely LOVE the Auburn Oregon matchup. It's so refreshing to see new blood getting the chance to play for the championship. That and I think it's gonna be one hell of a game.

Also some good news for me. Nevada has accepted the bid to play in the Kraft Macaroni and Cheese Bowl, formerly the Emerald Bowl (which is SUCH a better name) in San Francisco. I went to the last two Emerald Bowls and was considering not going to this one. Well, that's definitely changed now that the Wolf Pack are in it!

[dfwabel]

FWIW, I have heard that Vegas will have an early line with Oregon as a 3 or 3.5 pt favorite over Auburn.

[DG_YouKnowWhatThatMeans]

There was a time when West Virginia was a great BCS team.

That time is passed, sure, but it happened not too long ago.

[dfwabel]

There was a time when West Virginia was a great BCS team.

That time is passed, sure, but it happened not too long ago.

Just due to coaching and recruiting.

In the final Pac-10 game, USC beat UCLA...as usual.

[LocalVulture]

Oh, and I can now finally say this: The drought is over! Washington is going bowling for the first time since 2002. Bring on the Holiday Bowl, baby!

It actually might be the Alamo Bowl against Oklahoma State for the Huskies.

[Seadragon76]

Oh, and I can now finally say this: The drought is over! Washington is going bowling for the first time since 2002. Bring on the Holiday Bowl, baby!

It actually might be the Alamo Bowl against Oklahoma State for the Huskies.

All the rumors I've heard was the Holiday Bowl, though. You know how rumors are...

But, it don't matter. It's a freaking bowl game! I don't care where it is.

Oh, and to you Arizona and Arizona State fans: Be glad the only thing that gets hurt in that rivalry are egos.

[Still MIGHTY]

Oh, and I can now finally say this: The drought is over! Washington is going bowling for the first time since 2002. Bring on the Holiday Bowl, baby!

It actually might be the Alamo Bowl against Oklahoma State for the Huskies.

All the rumors I've heard was the Holiday Bowl, though. You know how rumors are...

But, it don't matter. It's a freaking bowl game! I don't care where it is.

Oh, and to you Arizona and Arizona State fans: Be glad the only thing that gets hurt in that rivalry are egos.

Yeah that's nothing new in an LA rivalry.

Happens at Dodger games more than you'd think. Used to happen at Raider games. USC/UCLA. Occasionally at Laker/King/Clipper games, but not as often.

People (along with more than enough alcohol) take some of this stuff way too seriously.

[Lights Out]

You know if there was a playoff system the Big East would still be hogging a spot, right?

Yeah, but in a true playoff system, every conference's champions would be represented, plus a couple at-large schools. Then I wouldn't complain about the Big East because they'd have to prove their worth on the field like everybody else.

[footballfiji]

You know if there was a playoff system the Big East would still be hogging a spot, right?

Yeah, but in a true playoff system, every conference's champions would be represented, plus a couple at-large schools. Then I wouldn't complain about the Big East because they'd have to prove their worth on the field like everybody else.

Except even in the 1-AA Playoffs, every FCS conference champ is NOT represented.

[Lights Out]

But I'm not arguing in favor of making it like the 1-AA playoffs. I'm arguing in favor of making a playoff system like SI's proposal:

[WJMorris3]

But I'm not arguing in favor of making it like the 1-AA playoffs. I'm arguing in favor of making a playoff system like SI's proposal:

I actually think that's five teams too many. I would just take the conference champions. All eleven of them. If you didn't win your conference, you're not good enough to go.

[rams80]

But I'm not arguing in favor of making it like the 1-AA playoffs. I'm arguing in favor of making a playoff system like SI's proposal:

I actually think that's five teams too many. I would just take the conference champions. All eleven of them. If you didn't win your conference, you're not good enough to go.

You know, I almost missed your "I hate Notre Dame even though I claim to be a fan" rants. Almost.

[WJMorris3]

But I'm not arguing in favor of making it like the 1-AA playoffs. I'm arguing in favor of making a playoff system like SI's proposal:

I actually think that's five teams too many. I would just take the conference champions. All eleven of them. If you didn't win your conference, you're not good enough to go.

You know, I almost missed your "I hate Notre Dame even though I claim to be a fan" rants. Almost.

I didn't say anything about Notre Dame there. THey want in the playoffs, they need to join a conference like everyone else so they can play a properly tough enough schedule to merit inclusion.

[floydnimrod]

But I'm not arguing in favor of making it like the 1-AA playoffs. I'm arguing in favor of making a playoff system like SI's proposal:

I actually think that's five teams too many. I would just take the conference champions. All eleven of them. If you didn't win your conference, you're not good enough to go.

You know, I almost missed your "I hate Notre Dame even though I claim to be a fan" rants. Almost.

I'm surprised he didn't say it's four teams too many. "Only the 12 from the only elite conference should have a shot."

[infrared41]

But I'm not arguing in favor of making it like the 1-AA playoffs. I'm arguing in favor of making a playoff system like SI's proposal:

Outside of being "fair", (and let's not pretend any money making sport is fair) there's really no point in giving the Sun Belt, MAC, C-USA etc. automatic playoff spots. It's a waste of time and we all know it. A 16 team playoff is too large and the NCAA would never go for it. We also know that the polls are going to remain a part of any playoff equation. No polls means no way to make sure the "name" (money) teams are always part of the playoff picture. So let's look at a playoff that is not only feasible, it also covers pretty much every argument against the idea of a playoff.

Anyone who knows me around here knows that for years I was dead set against any college football playoff. At least I was until this brilliant idea came to me.

So here yet again is Infrared41's college football playoff proposal...

It's very simple. It uses the current bowls and adds three extra games. The bowl tie-ins will remain unless that conference doesn't produce a playoff team. The three extra games could be rotated like the NC game currently is or they can be bid on like the Super Bowl is. Think of the three extra games as being similar to the conference championships and Super Bowl. It maintains the importance of the regular season (I think it makes the regular season even more important) and it allows the "other" bowls to remain in business. Finally, if a team like Boise State or TCU comes along they have the same chance at making the playoff that everyone else does. There are no automatic bids in my system.

Here's how it works.

The highest ranked conference champions with at-large bids to fill out any additional slots. A conference champ has to be in the BCS top 15 to qualify. (I'd would say top ten but I don't want to look like I'm pimping Ohio State or trying to screw Boise State) In the event of a tie for a conference champion (i.e. The WAC and Big Ten) the higher ranked team gets the playoff spot.

This season it would look like this...

Rose Bowl: Oregon vs. Wisconsin

Sugar Bowl: Auburn vs. TCU

Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Boise State

Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech vs. Stanford (highest ranked non-champion)

Last year it would have looked like this...

Rose Bowl: Ohio State vs. Oregon

Fiesta Bowl: Texas vs. Boise State

Orange Bowl: Georgia Tech vs. Cincinnati

Sugar Bowl: Alabama vs. TCU

With this system the "other" bowls are able to set up some pretty nice match-ups too.

I'm sure there are "issues" with it that I haven't thought of but I think it works pretty well.

[Lights Out]

Outside of being "fair", (and let's not pretend any money making sport is fair) there's really no point in giving the Sun Belt, MAC, C-USA etc. automatic playoff spots. It's a waste of time and we all know it.

People thought Butler and George Mason were wastes of time in March Madness. Turns out they weren't. Maybe football's version of George Mason or Butler could come from those conferences - who knows? But by winning their conferences, the Sun Belt, MAC, and C-USA champions have earned at least a shot at the title, realistic or not.

Also, I find it hard to believe that the same NCAA who just expanded March Madness to 68 teams would refuse to go along with a 16-team playoff in football.