2011NCAA Football Thread

[HedleyLamarr]

Only way a rematch should/could happen is if everybody in the title race loses (except for LSU. If LSU loses, all hell will have broken loose then.) and Alabama wins out. "Ugly" game or not, they took the #1 team in the nation to OT and lost by 3. I'm not a fan of a rematches in college football, but that's the only scenario in which I'd be in favor of a rematch. Hell, Les Miles was able to politic his way into a National Champonship game in 2007 using the "We never lost in regulation" argument, maybe Saban could do the same.

All that has to happen is Arkansas beating LSU, and depending on how the BCS standings turn out the Sunday before the game.....there's a possibility that neither LSU nor Alabama represent the SEC West in the SEC Championship. How fun would that be?

[HedleyLamarr]

What's really sad is that ESPN is going to brand it as a "classic" and a "tough defensive battle" while ignoring the inept quarterback play, penalties, ugly special teams play (especially for Bama), bad playcalling, and general lack of discipline.

If we have to sit through another four quarters of this boring garbage in the title game, then there's literally no point to any other conferences playing any games, because the SEC bias will have reached an absurd level.

Coming into this game, these two teams had average offenses and great defenses. A ton of NFL-talent on defense and enough-talent-to-get-by on offense. Not exactly sure why folks were expecting a ton of points to be scored.

That said, we've now seen LSU handle a team with a high-octane offense with relative ease (on a neutral-site) and a team with a tough defense in their own backyard. Not sure there's a team in the country that can beat them.

It was a great game in the sense that both teams knew that one touchdown very well could be enough to win the game, and played as such. It was a 60 minute-plus straight stare-down, and Alabama finally blinked in overtime. The in-game chess-match is what made this game exciting. I'll take that over one of those Big XII video games any time.

[WJMorris3]

I'd say Alabama's probably still #2 in the country after this game. After all, they didn't lose in regulation, and a one-loss team in the Super Elite Conference (alternative name for the Southeastern Conference) is equivalent to an undefeated team anywhere else.

[dfwabel]

Only way a rematch should/could happen is if everybody in the title race loses (except for LSU. If LSU loses, all hell will have broken loose then.) and Alabama wins out. "Ugly" game or not, they took the #1 team in the nation to OT and lost by 3. I'm not a fan of a rematches in college football, but that's the only scenario in which I'd be in favor of a rematch. Hell, Les Miles was able to politic his way into a National Champonship game in 2007 using the "We never lost in regulation" argument, maybe Saban could do the same.

All that has to happen is Arkansas beating LSU, and depending on how the BCS standings turn out the Sunday before the game.....there's a possibility that neither LSU nor Alabama represent the SEC West in the SEC Championship. How fun would that be?

After 9-6, a rematch will not get great ratings. Saban is too Parcells-based to realize that he must have a QB even at the NCAA level. He did not have a guy who could make plays at the NFL level and really has not recruited one at Sparty, LSU, or Bama. He did not give Jon Parker Wilson a shot, was too conservative with McElroy's first year and last night never gave that kid a shot to win. This is all on Saban trying to be Parcells, Jr.

[dfwabel]

I'd say Alabama's probably still #2 in the country after this game. After all, they didn't lose in regulation.

Let Nick Saban's wife make that consideration. As Les Miles' wife did years ago. .

[HedleyLamarr]

Only way a rematch should/could happen is if everybody in the title race loses (except for LSU. If LSU loses, all hell will have broken loose then.) and Alabama wins out. "Ugly" game or not, they took the #1 team in the nation to OT and lost by 3. I'm not a fan of a rematches in college football, but that's the only scenario in which I'd be in favor of a rematch. Hell, Les Miles was able to politic his way into a National Champonship game in 2007 using the "We never lost in regulation" argument, maybe Saban could do the same.

All that has to happen is Arkansas beating LSU, and depending on how the BCS standings turn out the Sunday before the game.....there's a possibility that neither LSU nor Alabama represent the SEC West in the SEC Championship. How fun would that be?

After 9-6, a rematch will not get great ratings. Saban is too Parcells-based to realize that he must have a QB even at the NCAA level. He did not have a guy who could make plays at the NFL level and really has not recruited one at Sparty, LSU, or Bama. He did not give Jon Parker Wilson a shot, was too conservative with McElroy's first year and last night never gave that kid a shot to win. This is all on Saban trying to be Parcells, Jr.

Sure it will, especially if that rematch is titled the "BCS Championship".

But I'm not in favor of a rematch anyway. Let some other school get a shot against LSU.

[See Red]

Only way a rematch should/could happen is if everybody in the title race loses (except for LSU. If LSU loses, all hell will have broken loose then.) and Alabama wins out. "Ugly" game or not, they took the #1 team in the nation to OT and lost by 3. I'm not a fan of a rematches in college football, but that's the only scenario in which I'd be in favor of a rematch. Hell, Les Miles was able to politic his way into a National Champonship game in 2007 using the "We never lost in regulation" argument, maybe Saban could do the same.

All that has to happen is Arkansas beating LSU, and depending on how the BCS standings turn out the Sunday before the game.....there's a possibility that neither LSU nor Alabama represent the SEC West in the SEC Championship. How fun would that be?

After 9-6, a rematch will not get great ratings. Saban is too Parcells-based to realize that he must have a QB even at the NCAA level. He did not have a guy who could make plays at the NFL level and really has not recruited one at Sparty, LSU, or Bama. He did not give Jon Parker Wilson a shot, was too conservative with McElroy's first year and last night never gave that kid a shot to win. This is all on Saban trying to be Parcells, Jr.

Sure it will, especially if that rematch is titled the "BCS Championship".

But I'm not in favor of a rematch anyway. Let some other school get a shot against LSU.

Not only that, but a rematch is, in my opinion, the only BCS Championship matchup involving LSU that is likely to be a good game. I think these are the two best teams by a longshot and that LSU rolls anybody else they may face in that game (if they get there, of course).

I'm also not in favor of a rematch except under some very unlikely circumstances.

[Seadragon76]

After seeing that score, I was thinking that a baseball game took place of the supposed football game that was supposed to be on.

LSU earned that victory, no doubt about it. Now, no way will there be a rematch (Oklahoma State and Stanford will something to say about that). It just doesn't make sense unless the supposed rematch is far more entertaining then the 9-6 bar room brawl from last night.

Plus, who out here wouldn't want to see LSU's defense try to shut down Justin Blackmon and Brandon Weeden? Who wouldn't want to see LSU face Stanford and see if Andrew Luck can beat this immovable object?

[DCDuck]

Doomsday scenario:

LSU loses to Arkansas - who goes on to represent the SEC West in the SEC title game

OK State loses to Oklahoma

Stanford loses to Oregon

We could have a situation where it's LSU vs. Alabama - and neither team won their own conference!

[Kramerica Industries]

The only thing that can annoy me about last night's game is those who will call LSU-'Bama "true football" and KState-OK State arena-type sh/t.

If it's not football when offense clearly overpowers defense, then it can't be football when defense clearly overpowers offense either.

[FiddySicks]

Did anyone read the story about the Penn State coach who was raping little boys in the locker room? If this story is true, there's no way JoPa is back next year and this definitely has to hurt his legacy a bit.

http://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/the_stunning_question_we_are_all_asking/7899736

Sorry, I don't know how to link this up properly on my phone.

[raysox]

Oh wow, I didn't know what the report had entitled, I just saw he's in trouble. Also, the guy who wrote that should invest in some paragraphs.

But I called the 9-6 game. That's what's great. I was saying how it'll be disappointing. Defensive game, yes, but it was just sloppy on offense and special teams. I'll take a 73-70 game between Boise State and Houston any day. When I watch a game with no rooting interest, I want to be entertained, but instead I fell asleep before the game was over.

Go 'Pokes

[Viper]

Did anyone read the story about the Penn State coach who was raping little boys in the locker room? If this story is true, there's no way JoPa is back next year and this definitely has to hurt his legacy a bit.

http://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/the_stunning_question_we_are_all_asking/7899736

Sorry, I don't know how to link this up properly on my phone.

JoePa himself has confirmed the report.

This is huge. Even if Paterno wasn't directly involved, this could end up being his Woody Hayes moment, though the nature of it makes Woody Hayes' own Woody Hayes moment look downright tame.

Update: I've just given this story its own thread.

[WJMorris3]

And I have the following as the BCS matchups as of right now:

BCS: #1 LSU v #2 Oklahoma State

Rose: #12 Penn State v #4 Stanford

Fiesta: #6 Oklahoma v #7 Oregon

Sugar: #3 Alabama v #5 Boise State

Orange: #9 Clemson v #23 Cincinnati

[Still MIGHTY]

Oh hell no... Alabama only dropped to #3... If Oklahoma beats OK State, we are screwed.

BCS Standings

#1 LSU

#2 Oklahoma State

#3 Alabama

#4 Stanford

#5 Boise State

#6 Oklahoma

#7 Oregon

#8 Arkansas

#9 Clemson

#10 Virginia Tech

EDIT: But apparently, the Stanford/Alabama margin is extremely small. So if Stanford beats Oregon, then We'll be fine. But the gap between the top 4 and Boise is apparently quite large. So if Oregon beats Stanford and Oklahoma State loses to Oklahoma, THEN we'll be screwed unless the human voters make sure we avoid it.

[TFoA]

Oh hell no... Alabama only dropped to #3... If Oklahoma beats OK State, we are screwed.

BCS Standings

#1 LSU

#2 Oklahoma State

#3 Alabama

#4 Stanford

#5 Boise State

#6 Oklahoma

#7 Oregon

#8 Arkansas

#9 Clemson

#10 Virginia Tech

EDIT: But apparently, the Stanford/Alabama margin is extremely small. So if Stanford beats Oregon, then We'll be fine. But the gap between the top 4 and Boise is apparently quite large. So if Oregon beats Stanford and Oklahoma State loses to Oklahoma, THEN we'll be screwed unless the human voters make sure we avoid it.

Wow, I was expecting Alabama to drop to 4 but apparently they just barely held on to the 3 spot. Other than that, really no surprises from the computers here.

[Sport]

I have a friend who is a Notre Dame fan who's constantly saying, "we'll never compete at a high level again until we lower our academic standards for football players."

Stanford's presence in the top 5 kills that theory.

[DPV713]

The BCS is so corrupt. Arkansas beat, according to them, the #9 team in the COUNTRY and drops a spot? A one-loss Alabama team only drops one spot, staying ahead of Heisman frontrunner and UNDEFEATED Stanford? A three-loss Baylor team that has been blown out by Texas A&M ranked, but a 7-2, 5-0 conference record of TCU is not? Gimme a break.

This is my mock Top 25, the way I think it should be.

[thespleenenator]

And I have the following as the BCS matchups as of right now:

BCS: #1 LSU v #2 Oklahoma State

Rose: #12 Penn State v #4 Stanford

Fiesta: #6 Oklahoma v #7 Oregon

Sugar: #3 Alabama v #5 Boise State

Orange: #9 Clemson v #23 Cincinnati

[DCDuck]

Houston at 10?

I love non-BCS programs as much as the next guy, but Houston at 10 is impossible.