2014 MLS Changes

[Digby]

Rendering of what someone proposed for a U of Miami / Miami MLS stadium combo. Not bad looking:

That's Baylor's new stadium currently under construction, re-colored for Miami.

No way in hell is that downtown Waco. It has about nine too many buildings.

You can clearly tell that the buildings and ocean were photoshopped in. And badly at that.

Is that supposed to be the ocean? I thought it was an artist rendering of a 100-foot-tall aquarium wall.

[Patchez]

When leagues have their individual teams have the same design elements on their uniforms (yeah, I'm American, their uniforms not kits)
such as the MLS and the WNBA...

Well I think that's just...

[Gothamite]

I wouldn't call what the NYCFC grassroots by my definition. To me grassroots is something like what the Sons of Ben did with the Union or what Orlando City fans did.

I know I may look like I am putting dirt on NYCFC fans but to me a grassroots movement for a fanbase is being able to get a team and then support it. NY2 came about not because of the Borough Boys or these new NYCFC fans but because Garber wanted a team within the NYC limits.

As for being a fan of NYCFC and Cosmos, I wish you luck, since NYCFC is toxic to a good number of Cosmos fans (I'm not just talking about the tinfoil Teddy disciples).

Nah, it's just the Twitter morons. They're louder than they are numerous.

I have a slightly more expansive definition, perhaps born out of my political work. Nobody alive founded the Democratic or Republican parties, but nobody denies that they have grassroots organizations. Sometimes people outside of the power structure can, purely on their own indicative, rise up and create their own movement. That's exactly what the NYCFC fans are doing, with only moral support from the club.

[Nyk33]

I wouldn't call what the NYCFC grassroots by my definition. To me grassroots is something like what the Sons of Ben did with the Union or what Orlando City fans did.

I know I may look like I am putting dirt on NYCFC fans but to me a grassroots movement for a fanbase is being able to get a team and then support it. NY2 came about not because of the Borough Boys or these new NYCFC fans but because Garber wanted a team within the NYC limits.

As for being a fan of NYCFC and Cosmos, I wish you luck, since NYCFC is toxic to a good number of Cosmos fans (I'm not just talking about the tinfoil Teddy disciples).

Nah, it's just the Twitter morons. They're louder than they are numerous.

I have a slightly more expansive definition, perhaps born out of my political work. Nobody alive founded the Democratic or Republican parties, but nobody denies that they have grassroots organizations. Sometimes people outside of the power structure can, purely on their own indicative, rise up and create their own movement. That's exactly what the NYCFC fans are doing, with only moral support from the club.

That could be the case as well, but since I debate them from time to time I guess I give their opinion more weight. However I do find that most Cosmos fans have a much more negative opinion of NYCFC than Red Bull.

I understand where you are coming from with your definition but I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Sports teams don't really work like political parties in this country. Especially when you are talking about teams in a rising sport and the emerging culture surrounding that sport. I just can't put NYCFC supporters in the same category as Union and OCSC fans.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned or not but NYCFC has appointed a Graphic Designer to help make their new logo (https://twitter.com/wolffmatt) and here are some concepts he came up with.

http://www.matthewwolffdesign.com/portfolio/nyc-fc/

Personally I think the Hyperkat logo is the best and blows the concepts this guy has out of the water.

[-kj]

For me, there's a lot to like about those ideas, though; I especially like the NYC lockup.

[Digby]

Yeah, feeling like a good monogram is a must for this team. Something so New York about it.

[Nyk33]

Yeah, feeling like a good monogram is a must for this team. Something so New York about it.

That I will agree with since the Yankees (the minority owners) have one of the most famous monogram in all of sports.

This is probably the best NYCFC concept to have a monogram.

It's probably my second favorite NYCFC concept out there.

[Gothamite]

Agreed. I love the hyperakt design but once Milo changed his to NYCFC colors it rocketed right up there.

[hawk36]

Yeah, feeling like a good monogram is a must for this team. Something so New York about it.

That I will agree with since the Yankees (the minority owners) have one of the most famous monogram in all of sports.

This is probably the best NYCFC concept to have a monogram.

It's probably my second favorite NYCFC concept out there.

I like how traditional this one looks. If you put 15 or 16 on there (not sure when they start play), it would almost seems as if it stood for 1915 or 1916.

[sozopol]

I like the hyperakt (obviously) and the Milo crest best as well. More than what I saw from the hired designer, at least so far.

I was on an NYCFC board and most of us seemed to agree that

1) we don't like the Statue of Liberty iconography;

2) we like the following-- skyskrapers with spires, bridges, and subway elements;

3) we like the pentagon because it symbolizes an old subway token and also the five boroughs-- but feel it should be pointed up not down;

4) we love a good interlocking NYC;

5) we are concern that the obvious light blue dark blue color scheme is already done several times in MLS alone. I hope the colors are distinctive.

I think most of us hope that the identity is not overly derivative of Man City.

[hawk36]

Colors:

It may not be ok since this is the Yankees not Mets but I could see doing a light blue, navy blue, orange combo. It would be unique in MLS and allow them a tie to the city flag, and both parent teams.

[sozopol]

No way they will use orange, There must be too much bad blood already between the Mets and this team-- there was the almost-deal back before the financial crash and Madoff scam,and then more recently the Flushing Meadows stadium controversy... then on top of everything the Yankees stepped in took a minority ownership.

It's too bad because you are right it would have been unique. But, I can't see it happening.

[Gothamite]

Yeah, I think orange is out. I rather like the navy/sky color scheme, partly because it's unique in the city, partly because I like the RGB thing we've got going, and partly because I like using multiple shades of the same color (as anyone following the Milwaukee Bucks thread will tell you).

Sozopol, you mind if I ask what board you were oh?

[GeauxColonels]

Which one is the Milo design? I'm not sure I'm familiar with it. I loved what Hyperakt came up with.

[Gothamite]

The one above, designed by Milo Kowalski:

[GeauxColonels]

I don't know how, but this is only the first time I've seen it.......and I absolutely LOVE IT!! Very nice.

[Nyk33]

Colors:

It may not be ok since this is the Yankees not Mets but I could see doing a light blue, navy blue, orange combo. It would be unique in MLS and allow them a tie to the city flag, and both parent teams.

The Dynamo have a orange, black, white, and sky blue color scheme which would be kind of close to that, but it would be better than the large amount with red and blue (Zombie Chivas, New England, Dallas, Red Bull, and Salt Lake).

[Sodboy13]

And Chicago.

[Nyk33]

And Chicago.

Thanks for the assist.

[VictoriaGooner]

Myself I like both the Matthew Wolff and Hyperkat NYCFC branding designs. Love the pentagon in hyperkat's design representing the five boroughs...classy. I wonder how long it will be until NYCFC releases their branding?