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Seadragon76    312

I'm going to echo Hedley's statement here: Jacksonville is definitely bipolar. When they do good, they're unbeatable.... but when things go wrong (last week), things REALLY go wrong.

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OnWis97    2,309
1 hour ago, CS85 said:

Steelers intend to stay in the locker room during the anthem, leaving the Bears to do what they do best:  Standing around awkwardly on a football field looking bewildered, three steps behind a franchise that knows what the right thing is, and when to do it.

I could have read about the Steelers anywhere.  But only here do I get to see it written like this.  That's what I love about the board.

 

As for sticking to the football, we can do that (and will if that's the direction we get from the mods) but it's a bit disingenuous at this point.  Sport has intersected with general culture (or politics) in a way we rarely see.  It's in our faces, our living rooms, and our games.  I can find other places to discuss this (albeit with lesser prose) but I think we're at the point at which keeping it on the field leaves it incomplete.

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Bucfan56    3,857

DAMN. I expected there to be more teams protesting today, but I didn't quite expect it to be damn near the ENTIRE league. Good on you, NFL. Good on you. 

 

 

I spoiler'd this because of the political conection, so if you don't wanna see it, don't open it. BUT, I think it's a pretty apt statement. 

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Ice_Cap    7,798

We're going to be smart about the political discussion. 

 

EDIT- 

To completely ignore the anthem protests would be a mistake. It's a huge part of the story of the NFL this week. That being said? I've deleted or edited some of the more provocative statements. 

No one will be disciplined, but politically-themed comments will be kept on a tight leash going forward.

Edited by Ice_Cap

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Cosmic    2,556
33 minutes ago, Ice_Cap said:

We're going to be smart about the political discussion. 

 

EDIT- 

To completely ignore the anthem protests would be a mistake. It's a huge part of the story of the NFL this week. That being said? I've deleted or edited some of the more provocative statements. 

No one will be disciplined, but politically-themed comments will be kept on a tight leash going forward.

I think that's the right way to go. I understand the political ban, but the events of the weekend almost demand some political discussion. Sports and politics are all of a sudden intertwined, rarely more so.

 

For Trump, I think it's a "smart" move. Nobody actually expects him to be able to stop the protests, but he gets to make a lot of noise and put forth the illusion of doing something. It will probably excite the people that were already behind him.

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Lee Noire    343
1 minute ago, Cosmic said:

I think that's the right way to go. I understand the political ban, but the events of the weekend almost demand some political discussion. Sports and politics are all of a sudden intertwined, rarely more so.

 

For Trump, I think it's a "smart" move. Nobody actually expects him to be able to stop the protests, but he gets to make a lot of noise and put forth the illusion of doing something. It will probably excite the people that were already behind him.

That's my issue with some owners and even some players getting behind the protests now. Because Trump ran his mouth. I'm glad they are motivated now to take a stand, but Kaepernick's original point is being swept away and that's annoying. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't great to see though.

 

Hope that wasn't too far guys. Football!!!

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Cosmic    2,556
1 minute ago, Lee Noire said:

That's my issue with some owners and even some players getting behind the protests now. Because Trump ran his mouth. I'm glad they are motivated now to take a stand, but Kaepernick's original point is being swept away and that's annoying. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't great to see though.

 

Hope that wasn't too far guys. Football!!!

I was thinking today that this could actually put a damper on the protests going forward, but not in Trump's intended way. It's all of a sudden a huge pissing match between the players and the President of the United States (weird), but the actual reasons that players started kneeling are nowhere to be found in the discussion now. I don't see players wanting to end the protest as long as Trump is in office, so it may end up being the standard that teams stay in the locker room or everyone kneels all the time and nobody really pays attention at all.

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Ice_Cap    7,798

That's fine :) 

 

I'm not entirely sure if it's a smart move for Trump. On one hand @Cosmic is right. He can't actually stop it, but he can talk about it and rile his base up. 

On the other hand @HedleyLamarr is right when he says this was an issue slowly fading away until Trump opened his mouth.

It went from Kaep and a few assorted players here and there getting less and less media coverage to a spectacle with entire teams protesting and every anthem being shown. 

 

Regardless? It made kneeling an anti-Trump statement and provided huge coverage for the act. I can't see how that's going to go over well for a man who seems to have a large but fragile ego. 

 

In any event? I have to think there's a more productive use of the President of the United States' time than getting into a pissing match with the NFL. 

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Brass    1,635

People working together towards a common goal. Politicians could actually gain some pointers from sports.

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Rockstar Matt    639

I dunno, call me crazy, but I'm tired of us white people telling minorities when and where they're allowed to voice their opinions. To me, that's about as un-American as it gets. 

 

 

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Brass    1,635
11 minutes ago, Rockstar Matt said:

I dunno, call me crazy, but I'm tired of us white people telling minorities when and where they're allowed to voice their opinions. To me, that's about as un-American as it gets. 

 

Don't lump me together with those boobs.

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OnWis97    2,309

The Case Keenum-led Vikings had quite a turnaround this week.  Keenum himself looked like a Pro Bowl QB.

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ninersdd    370

The 2 supposed downtrodden AFC East teams get 2 nice wins this week, while the Big Kahuna is struggling with Houston at home.

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Brass    1,635

This Texans/Patriots game has been great. Watson is a heck of a QB. Hoping these two teams meet again in the playoffs because this game has been fun.

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