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  2. But we just got done criticizing ESPN for trying to push an agenda?
  3. I still think it’s all silly. But when we’re discussing those stories, the team is the one that decides what the silly symbolism means. Province of the client, unfortunately. And that’s awesome. I love that story, it’s much better. Which is why it’s a shame that the Canucks chose not to incorporate it into the official meaning. I wonder why they made that choice?
  4. Having no fan consensus is probably the only thing you can count on when you’ve had a different identity every decade.
  5. Reading the ESPN article on the AAF, Charlie Ebersol sounded unhinged at times.
  6. No because the Orca is an entirely separate motif with zero connection to any part of a ‘Canucks’ identity. It’s completely out of left field. Nobody looks at a skate or rink and thinks ‘Oh, a Canuck is a boot with a knife on the bottom’. People look at the Orca and think a Canuck is a whale. Should the Seahawks use an Orca as their logo? They’re endemic to the Seattle area as well, so it makes as much sense.
  7. That’s ultimately where I stand. Some of us here want Johnny Canuck, but I take it that it’s a minority opinion. We have to remember that our opinions on the boards don’t necessarily reflect what the Canucks’ fans think. Market research won’t always back up the consensus of the CCSLC. This isn’t the Brewers’ ball-in-glove, the Padres in brown/yellow, or the Rams in royal blue/yellow. There’s no clear fan preference that contradicts what the team wants (AFAIK). The fans at large could reject Johnny Canuck for all we know. Maybe it’s for the reasons that @andrewharrington mentioned, I’m not sure. Johnny hasn’t been on a uniform since the early 1960s. Entire generations have gone by since its heyday. If that has any bearing on its current use, I’m not sure.
  8. Like trading the #1 overall in 1980 for Robert Parrish and the #3 overall, which was used for Kevin McHale or like trading Rick Robey for Dennis Johnson in 1983?
  9. I'm sure Adidas and Nike will both be in the running if Tech doesn't renew. Adidas would probably pay more though.
  10. Oh man. Don't do this. If they elect to move up to Division I, they'll put a massive amount of fees on their student body for decades. Kentucky State's enrollment is under 1,800 undergrad and not even 2,100 total. While, that's not Presbyterian small, they have retention level at 68% for Freshmen, but they have issues getting students to enroll period. Partnering with area school districts for Dual Enrollment is the reason they are where they are now. In fact, in the last week, they announced that out of state tuition will be reduced to those from eight neighboring states plus Michigan.
  11. All I hope this means is they drop the gray and black uniforms and stick to blue yellow gold. Is that too much to ask? also I love the logo on the front. It’s unique and REALLY works well for them
  12. Every project has romantic tales cooked up at marketing meetings. Every project also has a truth from behind the scenes. I’ve watched this place collectively throw up in its proverbial mouth at the puffy marketing story in every team press release for the better part of a decade, and now all of a sudden it’s gospel? “I created a graphic for the numbers that’s inspired by the waves in the Vancouver flag and coat of arms” is not corporate speak. Nothing in that statement is exaggerated, nor is it a retrofit story used to justify a design choice. As far as the design itself, why does it have to be so literal? It’s very much an “inspired by” situation, as I’d rather not go the Calgary Flames/NBA draft hat route on a set of numbers. Wavy lines of uniform width didn’t translate well to the technique and footprint of the numbers and they didn’t give me the look I wanted. Making a gradient with the wavy lines created a better graphic that’s more than just a flag. Is it the waves meeting the shore? Is it the fog settling into the harbor? Is it the snowy mountains in the distance fading into the hills and forests in the foreground? That’s up to the viewer, but the wavy lines that create the larger graphic were pulled from those civic symbols. As far as the disconnect goes. There’s no good solution. We design identities and uniforms. Marketing departments don’t just sit around waiting for designers to Provide all their content. They have other stuff to do, and we definitely don’t impede on what the teams’ marketing departments are doing unless they ask for content. There simply aren’t enough hours in the day. Maybe I didn’t communicate that well. I think the chunkier C *does* make it more elementary. I just don’t see it as a bad thing because I think it has always been a very elementary logo in a delicate logo’s clothing. I appreciate delicate design when it works, but I actually think the delicate parts of the older models detracted from the bold, simplistic concept behind the rink logo. There will be disagreement, but that was my point of view on it. The reaction seems pretty mixed. Some are loving the new one, and some prefer the old. The question was why wouldn’t they want to use Johnny Canuck? Maybe they just think he’s too silly. Maybe they don’t like that he’s essentially a political cartoon. Maybe they dont like that he’s a generalized stereotype. Maybe they see him as “minor league” since he came from the WHL club. Maybe they don’t like that he represents an industry that threatened the natural beauty of the Pacific Northwest for decades. Who knows? There are a dozen reasons why they *might* not want to tread those waters. My original example was on the extreme side, but certainly realistic given the context of the era. No team wants to be perceived like “Tone Deaf” Dan Snyder when it comes to potentially sensitive social issues. Would *I* have a problem with Johnny Canuck? No. Would I, as a team, try to understand and respect how the fans felt about the subject? Of course. Vancouver is definitely in the top tier of teams when it comes to fan research, so if they’re reluctant to use Johnny in a starring role, I’ve got to think they have a reason for it.
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  14. Tie-Dyed Blue Caps, Ribbons Across MLB For Father’s Day 2019 June 16, 2019 - 14:52 PM Major League Baseball will honour dad’s across the continent today with players wearing a special cap, jersey patch, socks, and other equipment during games this Father’s Day afternoon. The caps will all feature a tie-dye style powder blue design with […] Read More...
  15. Johnny Canuck's skin colour is a basic white, meaning he could be of any particular ethnic background, not Caucasian flesh-coloured like the Boston Celtics' leprechaun.
  16. Yes. Because he was created as a symbol of all of Canada. They portrayed themselves as simple, good-hearted, maybe a bit naive, being played and bossed around by the more “sophisticated” world powers like America. And unlike the United States, Canadians don’t have much of a problem laughing at themselves, which is hardly a bad thing. The perfect logo personification of the US would be an overly-aggressive “kewl!” eagle with snarling teeth. And fangs. And claws. If our neighbors to the north can get behind a gentle, good-hearted, country boy as their national embodiment, I don’t see that as a detriment.
  17. These conversations are a whole lot less contentious if we can leave the personal stuff out.
  18. Any idea what no. Davis would have?
  19. I’m so mad I have to defend the Lakers right now. As if this season hasn’t been trying enough for me.
  20. As the supposed World Leader in Sport, they should be setting trends instead of following them though. That's the biggest problem with current media at large. They miss a lot of good stories for what'll get more social likes.
  21. Yes they did. In a year where the top seed in the East would have been the 5 seed in the West. At best. More than half the East's playoff field would have missed the playoffs in the West. Hoist the banner, I guess.
  22. The 06-07 Celtics went *checks notes* 24-58. What young talent are you even talking about?
  23. They’ve got all of free agency to put this together. It always seems to fall into place for LeBron. I’d argue the 2011 Heat were an exception, but very qualified role players just pop up around these superstar cores he puts together.
  24. Flags fly forever dude. There's no right way or wrong way with free agency.
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