GO2HELL Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Huge protest going on. Still better attendance than most coyotes games this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I wonder is he a Hatfield or a McCoy? Quote www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 Oh crap, I was out most of the afternoon and now I'm sifting through the HFboards liveblog of the council meeting, trying to piece together what the hell this was today. There are no words, just Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMcD29 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Oh crap, I was out most of the afternoon and now I'm sifting through the HFboards liveblog of the council meeting, trying to piece together what the hell this was today. There are no words, just Meh, Gary Bettman hears that as this Quote Twitter: @RyanMcD29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 City approved the subsidy 4-2 after a parade of people complaining that they couldn't afford to give the team all that money, along with some defenders who said sports. Dissenting votes were the mayor and the guy who wants them to go bye-bye; the woman who has actual common-sense reasons for not doing this is in the hospital or something. Now Goldwater is going to sue the city. Still nothing certain yet, and Bettman even told the council that Jamison hasn't raised enough money yet. God, this will NEVER END.Oh and hey, somewhere in this big mess it came out that Nashville subsidizes the Predators with a $12 million "arena management fee," after which the team still loses money, so they're running the same scam the Coyotes are trying to run, just on a 40% smaller scale. "With hard work and time, hockey succeeded in Nashville!" No, with generous taxpayer bailouts, it still kinda squeaks along at best. Derp. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesL Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Calling Barry Goldwater a real American, Devils avitar I think Icecap is turning into me Being outraged at the Phoenix Coyotes is the one true cause that unites us all. #teamjusticeWe could join hands and do a "We are the World" cover video for this cause.♫Enough's enough. Move the Coyotes.♫Count me in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 City approved the subsidy 4-2 after a parade of people complaining that they couldn't afford to give the team all that money, along with some defenders who said sports. Dissenting votes were the mayor and the guy who wants them to go bye-bye; the woman who has actual common-sense reasons for not doing this is in the hospital or something. Now Goldwater is going to sue the city. Still nothing certain yet, and Bettman even told the council that Jamison hasn't raised enough money yet. God, this will NEVER END.Oh and hey, somewhere in this big mess it came out that Nashville subsidizes the Predators with a $12 million "arena management fee," after which the team still loses money, so they're running the same scam the Coyotes are trying to run, just on a 40% smaller scale. "With hard work and time, hockey succeeded in Nashville!" No, with generous taxpayer bailouts, it still kinda squeaks along at best. Derp.A little different, Nashville agreed to a least with the municipality, but at the same time went to the state legislature to get a bill passed in their favor. They gave up one subsidy for another.Team accounting works in their favor. Example, the Heat have never paid rent to Miami-Dade County in all their seasons playing at the AmericanAirlines Arena (1997). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 http://ktar.com/22/1552014/Goldwater-Institute-Glendale-missing-significant-portions-of-Coyotes-deal"We said, 'Hey, do this in a couple of days when you've had a chance to finish these exhibits and get everything public and give taxpayers the chance to look at the documents and weigh in,'" said Rhoades. "And that is all we're asking for: that people have the chance to be heard. They rushed this thing to a vote without being ready."Rhoades said the deal was rushed by the NHL and rumors that Jamison's investors are faltering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Team accounting works in their favor. Example, the Heat have never paid rent to Miami-Dade County in all their seasons playing at the AmericanAirlines Arena (1997).Except that Miami only pays the Heat 6.8 million per year to manage their arena. Glendale is suggesting the market rate is several times that, as the cover for funneling county cash to the team. Quote The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 http://ktar.com/22/1...of-Coyotes-deal"We said, 'Hey, do this in a couple of days when you've had a chance to finish these exhibits and get everything public and give taxpayers the chance to look at the documents and weigh in,'" said Rhoades. "And that is all we're asking for: that people have the chance to be heard. They rushed this thing to a vote without being ready."Rhoades said the deal was rushed by the NHL and rumors that Jamison's investors are faltering.You missed the money quote:"The judge said, 'I don't have the legal authority to block them from voting today, but I agree with you, Goldwater Institute, that they are violating open meetings law,'" said Rhoades. "'They are violating public records law and they are in violation of court orders to provide documents to the public and if you come back to me, after they've passed this deal, I will strike it down.'"Glendale annoyed the courts last year by dragging their feet hard on the Matt Hulsizer Magical Parking Lot documents. It could be that they're tired of the city's crap. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_J_H Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Coyotes get approval of 20-year arena lease agreement I say to those people who voted this agreement. Quote AJH Hockey Jersey Art@AJHFTW AJH Hockey Jersey Art on Facebook AJH HJA on DeviantArt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Coyotes get approval of 20-year arena lease agreement I say to those people who voted this agreement. "The apocalypse has finally begun, Pigs are learning how to fly, Satan is skating his way to work & I'm pretty sure I just became a monkey's uncle."-NC Tom & Jerry review...http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=397980Seriously, if this is true, hell has frozen over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Jamison still needs to work out a final deal with the NHL and gain approval from the league's board of governors, but this was considered the last major obstacle to finally bringing an owner in and keeping the team from leaving the Valley of the Sun.Yes, the fact that the lease agreement was approved in an illegal meeting, that the deal itself is illegal, and that the prospective owner still doesn't have his share of the money to buy the goddamn team are mere speedbumps. Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 If this finally breaks the right way, I swear I'll hitchhike to the Plains of Abraham just to party with the locals. I've been on this rollercoaster too long. Who's with me? Allons-y! Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustDevil61 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 So, it's over, right?Judging by the last couple reactions, sounds like Goldwater is leaving the CoG alone. No need to lose hope yet.The fight's just starting, and it looks to be one well worth watching. Quote Insert Signature Here? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0edCAOkdXgUGreg Jamison ponders investment opportunities. Currently self-immolating: the San Jose Sharks Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 So, it's over, right?Judging by the last couple reactions, sounds like Goldwater is leaving the CoG alone.what makes you say that? Quote The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 Yeah, what? They're not leaving the city alone at all. They got a judge to say that the vote can (and will) be struck down now that it's been passed. Oh, and apparently most of the council members didn't read some important documents beforehand, as it was "in someone's email inbox" and they couldn't reach it. That's okay, though, becausesports-sports-sports-sports,sports-sports-sports-sports,sport-spor-spor sport sp-sporrrrts...sports!!!!!!! Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Can someone explain to me why half of hfboards is convinced a 2 team expansion is going to be part of the new CBA? I mean such an act of insane stupidity only makes sense under OITGDNHL logic. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesL Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 If this finally breaks the right way, I swear I'll hitchhike to the Plains of Abraham just to party with the locals. I've been on this rollercoaster too long. Who's with me? Allons-y!I'll bring the beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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