NHL Anti-Thread: Bad Business Decision Aggregator

[Friedrich Stuart Macbeth 151]

38 minutes ago, BBTV said:

 

They didn't take enough money away from the fire fighters and teachers to pay them?

Or they didn't use the money properly? I mean, even if it were rich, that money isn't always guaranteed to spend well.

Either way, Arizona needs an owner change or risk relocation.

[TalktoChuck 547]

8 hours ago, Friedrich Stuart Macbeth said:

Or they didn't use the money properly? I mean, even if it were rich, that money isn't always guaranteed to spend well.

Either way, Arizona needs an owner change or risk relocation.

They just got a new owner almost a year ago.

 

They also replaced their CFO a couple months ago. This embarrassing error is probably due to high turnover within their finance department because of the new CFO and a complete lack of organization during the switchover of employees.

 

 

[charger77 1,825]

13 hours ago, Friedrich Stuart Macbeth said:

Is there any reason to not pay players on time?

 

Didn't something like this (was it RFA offers?)  happen with Dale Tallon and the Blackhawks in 2009.

[the admiral 29,242]

That was failing to tender contract offers on time, not pay.

[Ridleylash 4,362]

Note that the NHLPA could have filed a grievance, but actively chose not to do so, and even consider the matter resolved; 

That, to me, makes me think it's not something super serious. Considering Meruelo's big money-making properties are casinos, restaurants and hotels, industries being hammered by the pandemic, it's not really surprising that he's going to have a little bit of a financial squeeze at the moment.

[the admiral 29,242]

Well, now that we've permanently destroyed the entire hospitality sector of this country, I foresee no additional cashflow issues.

[monkeypower 3,224]

Speaking about relocation, I've seen a lot more doom and gloom from corners of the internet (namely r/hockey) about the Panthers situation.

 

There's (apparently) an out clause on the lease in 2023 and the Panthers have been (allegedly) cutting payroll in the front office/business side of the team recently. Combine that with a general history of not having any success outside of one year and continued low attendance/fan apathy and I don't know...

[Ridleylash 4,362]

4 hours ago, monkeypower said:

Speaking about relocation, I've seen a lot more doom and gloom from corners of the internet (namely r/hockey) about the Panthers situation.

 

There's (apparently) an out clause on the lease in 2023 and the Panthers have been (allegedly) cutting payroll in the front office/business side of the team recently. Combine that with a general history of not having any success outside of one year and continued low attendance/fan apathy and I don't know...

Add in a prime relocation market in Québec that doesn't even require any realignment to pull off...and it's an ugly, ugly picture for the Panthers. I gotta think that this is their make or break point; if they can't pull together something to draw fans back, they're probably done in South Florida.

[goalieboy82 1,048]

1 hour ago, Ridleylash said:

Add in a prime relocation market in Québec that doesn't even require any realignment to pull off...and it's an ugly, ugly picture for the Panthers. I gotta think that this is their make or break point; if they can't pull together something to draw fans back, they're probably done in South Florida.

and if they do move to Quebec, the NHL wouldn't need to change anything.  

[Friedrich Stuart Macbeth 151]

3 hours ago, goalieboy82 said:

and if they do move to Quebec, the NHL wouldn't need to change anything.  

They have Seattle in the Western conference, so relocation without realignment is possible.

[the admiral 29,242]

4 hours ago, monkeypower said:

Speaking about relocation, I've seen a lot more doom and gloom from corners of the internet (namely r/hockey) about the Panthers situation.

 

Then it must be serious. Usually r/hockey beats off to any hockey team where it's shorts weather a lot and the fanbase is small enough to where 80% of them are the ones posting on r/hockey. THEY LOVE THE CANES AND STARS, FOLKS

[chcarlson23 1,504]

1 hour ago, Friedrich Stuart Macbeth said:

They have Seattle in the Western conference, so relocation without realignment is possible.

But they would move to Quebec, from Miami. They’re already in the east, and already in the Atlantic division. So they essentially would only be changing team locations, and there wouldn’t be a need to change any of the divisions. Seattle just balances out the conferences. 

[Sodboy13 5,815]

Hey, in these Unprecedented Times, we're all having a little trouble with the ol' landlord, aren't we?

 

 

[goalieboy82 1,048]

2 minutes ago, Sodboy13 said:

Hey, in these Unprecedented Times, we're all having a little trouble with the ol' landlord, aren't we?

 

 

[Ridleylash 4,362]

The Coyotes aren't the only team struggling in the pandemic, I should note. Teams like Buffalo and Ottawa have also been taking bad hits from the goings-on; and every Canadian team but the Leafs has been slashing pay as of late. Hell, even teams like Pittsburgh are apparently planning for an internal cap. It's a league-wide issue.

 

I know the Coyotes are apparently the easy punching bag for people because "lOl dEsErt hOcKey", but there's quite a few teams feeling the crunch. If anything, I'd be looking at poor old liver-thieving Eugene's wallet. This whole pandemic has gotta be doing a number on his finances.

[Sodboy13 5,815]

Oh, I am of the belief that the league is going to be down to 28 teams by the time the 2022-23 season starts, and I do think Ottawa, Buffalo, and Florida are your prime candidates for getting vaporized, alongside Florida.

 

The Coyotes are the easy punching bag because we've been discussing their persistent failures and edge-of-doom existence on this board for over 11 years.

[goalieboy82 1,048]

1 hour ago, Sodboy13 said:

Oh, I am of the belief that the league is going to be down to 28 teams by the time the 2022-23 season starts, and I do think Ottawa, Buffalo, and Florida are your prime candidates for getting vaporized, alongside Florida.

 

The Coyotes are the easy punching bag because we've been discussing their persistent failures and edge-of-doom existence on this board for over 11 years.

at this point, wouldn't be surprise (the NHL would do this before they put a team in Quebec City)

 

[QCS 2,961]

 

17 hours ago, Sodboy13 said:

Hey, in these Unprecedented Times, we're all having a little trouble with the ol' landlord, aren't we?

 

 

On 9/4/2020 at 8:14 PM, QCS said:

An incompetent organization?

[goalieboy82 1,048]

On 9/17/2020 at 4:26 PM, Sodboy13 said:

Hey, in these Unprecedented Times, we're all having a little trouble with the ol' landlord, aren't we?

 

 

via here:

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/29922436/gary-bettman-says-coronavirus-raises-many-uncertainties-nhl-including-start-2020-21-season

"The only good news in this context is that the ownership of the 31, soon to be 32, NHL franchises has never been stronger and healthier," Bettman said. He said that includes the Arizona Coyotes, as recent reports had them missing bonus payments to players and their arena Insert other media management company, something Bettman chalked up to a new ownership group's learning curve on operating a franchise.

[the admiral 29,242]

Third ownership group in seven years. When was the last time a team got passed around that quickly without involving some major scandal (e.g., John Spano)?