ElwoodCuse Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Penn State lost to Pitt. They're out. End of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaline97 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, ElwoodCuse said: Penn State lost to Pitt. They're out. End of story So did Clemson, I'm not seeing anyone arguing for them to be out based on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 This exactly what I wanted to happen because it's the absolute WORST case scenario for this system. Either a conference champ is gonna get left out in the cold despite beating one of the teams who got in, we're gonna see a double-dip on conferences leaving a really deserving conference champ out, or Ohio State fans are gonna bitch (and, for once, actually have somewhat of a case too). No matter what, someone is going to be rightfully PISSED. I dont don't want to see Ohio State make the final four but I'd take them over Penn State on principle. That'd be a worthwhile message to send considerig the scummy they've been a part of. What I want to see even more is total chaos that pisses EVERYONE off and kills this stupid four team system altogether. Either expand it or just go back to the flawed but still better BCS. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unocal Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 4 hours ago, OnWis97 said: Ugh. Stick them in the Pinstripe Bowl after tonight That's a no-win situation for Wisky. Everything to lose, nothing to gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Ohio State should remind the Committee that Penn State had a ceremony honoring Paterno to start the year. That alone disqualifies them. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 8 hours ago, DG_Now said: Shouldn't Washington be ranked ahead of both OSU and Clemson? They won their conference, and won their conference title game by five scores. No, because Clemson and Ohio State would pose more of a challenge to Nick Saban's death machine. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 How the Top 4 should be: (based on conference champions) Alabama Clemson Washington Penn State How it probably will be: (Penn State being first out) Alabama Ohio State Clemson Washington Would the committee ever consider having a one game playoff for the 4th spot? Say they came to a split decision on (example) Washington and Penn State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinsUp1214 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 8 hours ago, dsaline97 said: So did Clemson, I'm not seeing anyone arguing for them to be out based on that. That, and based on the Pitt logic, Ohio State lost to a team that lost to Pitt. So shouldn't that hurt them too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I think there is an outside chance Washington gets left out. I think they have the weakest body of work of the top 5. With only four teams I think it kinda takes away the luxury of just rewarding conference champs. I think there'd be a legitimate chance had they not handled Colorado so convincingly. I really feel that eight teams is the way to go. That way (top-5) conference races absolutely mean something and the top 3 (or two if top other conference champ gets bid) other teams get in. The best "out" teams would have far less of a complaint than whichever of the three teams gets left out today (and Oklahoma). Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 So, just a question here. Why is the debate just OSU vs PSU? With tOSU sitting at 2, for them to be left out, logically, they will need to get jumped by not just Penn State, but also Washington and Clemson. If they were good enough to be a solid 2 last week, and they didn't lose, how do they get jumped by three teams? I know for some the simple answer is "conference championships" but is that the only answer? http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 And, as for all this talk about "I was hoping for this chaos" and "this is the NCAA's worst nightmare scenario"... that's nonsense. After Penn State won last night, the interwebs and the ESPN hacks all went into overdrive. This is all anybody is talking about, and whoever they put in there, the talk is only going to intensify. You can't buy this kind of PR. NOTHING sells like controversy. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 41 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said: So, just a question here. Why is the debate just OSU vs PSU? With tOSU sitting at 2, for them to be left out, logically, they will need to get jumped by not just Penn State, but also Washington and Clemson. If they were good enough to be a solid 2 last week, and they didn't lose, how do they get jumped by three teams? I know for some the simple answer is "conference championships" but is that the only answer? If a team (one that was co-champion, but lost to the other co-champion) can win a game by 50+ points and drop three spots in the final CFP rankings, there's no reason to believe an idle team can't drop three spots as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, HedleyLamarr said: If a team (one that was co-champion, but lost to the other co-champion) can win a game by 50+ points and drop three spots in the final CFP rankings, there's no reason to believe an idle team can't drop three spots as well. That is what is likely to happen. Basically last week they rewarded nobody for conference championships and chose not to project them...even for OSU's inability to win one. Now Bama, Washington, PSU, Clemson, and OUnget huge points they did not have last week while OSU remains stagnant. I think there is an outside chance Washington gets left out. I think they have the weakest body of work of the top 5. With only four teams I think it kinda takes away the luxury of just rewarding conference champs. I think there'd be a legitimate chance had they not handled Colorado so convincingly. I really feel that eight teams is the way to go. That way (top-5) conference races absolutely mean something and the top 3 (or two if top other conference champ gets bid) other teams get in. The best "out" teams would have far less of a complaint than whichever of the three teams gets left out today (and Oklahoma). Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, OnWis97 said: That is what is likely to happen. Basically last week they rewarded nobody for conference championships and chose not to project them...even for OSU's inability to win one. Now Bama, Washington, PSU, Clemson, and OUnget huge points they did not have last week while OSU remains stagnant. I think there is an outside chance Washington gets left out. I think they have the weakest body of work of the top 5. With only four teams I think it kinda takes away the luxury of just rewarding conference champs. I think there'd be a legitimate chance had they not handled Colorado so convincingly. I really feel that eight teams is the way to go. That way (top-5) conference races absolutely mean something and the top 3 (or two if top other conference champ gets bid) other teams get in. The best "out" teams would have far less of a complaint than whichever of the three teams gets left out today (and Oklahoma). If their "weak body of work" had them at #4 last week, how can a conference championship victory over what'll be a top-15 team in the final polls hurt the weak body of work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, DNAsports said: How it probably will be: (Penn State being first out) Alabama Ohio State Clemson Washington That'd be my 4, & I want to root for Washington. If Wash isn't in, I honestly probably won't care to engage as much. Conf titles should matter, yet only when they need to for tie breaks/separation... i.e. if OSU weren't so dominating this season, PSU would get my vote. As it is I'd have them 5 or 6 or whatever. If PSU were nom'd over Wash, it wouldn't bother me... I get it. I simply won't care as much because zero likeable teams for me. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 There it is... #1 Alabama #2 Clemson #3 Ohio State #4 Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viola73 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, OnWis97 said: I really feel that eight teams is the way to go. That way (top-5) conference races absolutely mean something and the top 3 (or two if top other conference champ gets bid) other teams get in. The best "out" teams would have far less of a complaint than whichever of the three teams gets left out today (and Oklahoma). This. I'll go further and say they should have a straight up tournament like the lower divisions. They do it for every other sport. The problem is the bowl system which will never go away, at least not in the foreseeable future. A true national championship to decide...well...the national champion in stead of this 4 team bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viola73 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 9 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: I dont don't want to see Ohio State make the final four but I'd take them over Penn State on principle. That'd be a worthwhile message to send considerig the scummy they've been a part of. Well, fortune for us football fans the playoffs are based on what happened on the FIELD THIS season and not on your perceptions of what may have happened...how many years ago? Enjoy the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinsUp1214 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Well, there's the message. Looks like you don't have to win your conference (or division) after all. Even if that was the kicker in the same system once upon a time. Okay. Ah, who am I kidding. Alabama's winning the whole playoffs by a collective 80 points anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viola73 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 4 hours ago, rams80 said: Ohio State should remind the Committee that Penn State had a ceremony honoring Paterno to start the year. That alone disqualifies them. Penn State should remind the committee that Ohio State still worships a coach that physically assaulted an opposing player on national television. Whats your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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