Gothamite 24,108 Posted September 5, 2016 I'll take your word for it, but the official city seal is not round, although there have been round versions used in the past. Also, look at the date at the bottom - no motto banner. That's one difference on the flag version of the city seal, and the dead giveaway when somebody cribs the image off Wikipedia. When did did you buy that flag? The city used a version for a while in the 1980s and early 1990s that were different yet - the shield at the center was dark blue, not white. Those turn up from time to time as well. And frankly, the fact that there is such confusion is reason enough to change the flag. Love the tricolor, either fly it unadorned or give it a more iconic symbol. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosmic 6,460 Posted September 5, 2016 39 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Though I would be morally remiss if I did not suggest one fanciful improvement to the flag of this place that was for a long time a part of the Soviet Union: I am very confused by this. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferdinand Cesarano 4,563 Posted September 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Gothamite said: I'll take your word for it, but the official city seal is not round, although there have been round versions used in the past. Also, look at the date at the bottom - no motto banner. That's one difference on the flag version of the city seal, and the dead giveaway when somebody cribs the image off Wikipedia. When did did you buy that flag? The city used a version for a while in the 1980s and early 1990s that were different yet - the shield at the center was dark blue, not white. Those turn up from time to time as well. And frankly, the fact that there is such confusion is reason enough to change the flag. Love the tricolor, either fly it unadorned or give it a more iconic symbol. I bought that flag about four years ago. It is not difficult to find the version with the round seal and no motto in the wild. (Incidentally, I have framed and hung this last shot.) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferdinand Cesarano 4,563 Posted September 5, 2016 However, it is possible to find the version with the motto, also with a round seal. The desk flags for sale have oval seals, some with the motto and some without. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTConcepts 2,123 Posted September 5, 2016 Man, this NY Flag is all over the place. Clean it up, standardize it, get rid of the seal, and you're golden. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 24,108 Posted September 5, 2016 In a nutshell. The official design has been lost in the Interwebs swamp. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obiwantok 14 Posted September 9, 2016 Vexillological links of interest (didn't see these posted already)! http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/what-goes-into-a-flags-design/ & 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WissX 50 Posted September 12, 2016 one of my more liked flags 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kroywen 2,281 Posted September 12, 2016 46 minutes ago, WissX said: one of my more liked flags That thing violates about about 20 different vexillological principals. Tons of text on a flag, seal on a bedsheet, illustration of a building, etc. And it reduces the City of Green Bay to its football team. Granted, it's why 99% of America has heard of Green Bay, but the flag would be an opportunity to say to visitors and residents alike "hey, we're a real city, and not just Lambeau Field"! 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fumbler 126 Posted September 12, 2016 On 8/16/2016 at 9:29 AM, mr.nascar13 said: USA! USA! USA! USA! Seriously though, besides the stars & stripes, for some reason, I've always like Great Britain's Union Jack: I'm also a fan of the state flag of Tennessee: Mitsubishi anyone? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 24,108 Posted September 12, 2016 On 9/5/2016 at 0:02 AM, Ferdinand Cesarano said: The desk flags for sale have oval seals, some with the motto and some without. Desk flags, yes. But I nterestingly, the full-size flags now being sold by the city have an oval seal with no motto. https://a856-citystore.nyc.gov/1/Gifts/4/CityStore-Exclusives/257/City-of-NY-Outdoor-Flag This is why I say it's time for a change - what a mess. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 24,108 Posted September 12, 2016 8 hours ago, kroywen said: That thing violates about about 20 different vexillological principals. Tons of text on a flag, seal on a bedsheet, illustration of a building, etc. And it reduces the City of Green Bay to its football team. Granted, it's why 99% of America has heard of Green Bay, but the flag would be an opportunity to say to visitors and residents alike "hey, we're a real city, and not just Lambeau Field"! Thats because it's just the city seal on a bedsheet. A wavy, two-toned bedsheet, but bedsheet nonetheless. I kind of like incorporating the Packers into the city seal, as the team is so integral to the community, its sense of self and its economy. It's one of the things which makes Green Bay literally unlike any other place in the country, and I'm okay celebrating that. But the flag should be something different. The flag should be something better. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kroywen 2,281 Posted September 12, 2016 5 hours ago, Gothamite said: Thats because it's just the city seal on a bedsheet. A wavy, two-toned bedsheet, but bedsheet nonetheless. I kind of like incorporating the Packers into the city seal, as the team is so integral to the community, its sense of self and its economy. It's one of the things which makes Green Bay literally unlike any other place in the country, and I'm okay celebrating that. But the flag should be something different. The flag should be something better. I don't mind referencing the Packers on the city flag at all, but actually putting their logo on the flag seems a little far to me. A well-designed green and gold flag would represent an obvious nod to the Packers, without going as far as having the team logo displayed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan33 4,109 Posted September 12, 2016 Quote Always liked Estonia's just because of this picture. Based on the Estonian forests in the winter That is brilliant. I didn't think this flag was anything special until now. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTConcepts 2,123 Posted September 12, 2016 20 hours ago, WissX said: one of my more liked flags Wow, that is really bad. Shield, logo, text, and gradients aside, the actual flag pattern in the background is really odd and the white line is really too thin. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dynasty 2,411 Posted September 12, 2016 I may get some heat for this, but I still think this is a well-designed flag, regardless of what it's associated with... 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 24,108 Posted September 12, 2016 Hell, the Nazi swastika is one of the best flags ever designed. Simple, bold and unmistakeable. Nazi Germany and the CSA are two of the most evil nations in world history, but they did have some nice flags. 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceCap 22,331 Posted September 14, 2016 The bad guys always have the best uniforms/insignia. 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the admiral 28,764 Posted September 14, 2016 Speaking of that, have we discussed what is apparently the "Blue Lives Matter" flag? I saw this out and about and thought it was some kind of white supremacist deal, it looked so menacing. Does this violate the flag code somehow? If not, can we change the flag code so that it does? A dark, sinister version of the American flag just gives me the willies. It's too Raiders-y. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceCap 22,331 Posted September 14, 2016 I'm not sure what American law has to say about it, but I know that in Canada it's illegal to produce the national flag in anything other than it's official colouration. Back in undergrad we tried to get a purple and white version done up for Student Government (the school's colours) but no one would agree to make it on the grounds that it was technically illegal to do so. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites