bosrs1 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Wings said: So........... #24 Miami (When will the patience run out?) #25 Sacramento #26 St. Louis (Stadium issues to be resolved) #27 San Diego #28 Charlotte (Stadium issues to be resolved) Eventually expansion to 30 or 32 will happen. Well for what its worth the San Diego group is targeting the March 2020 start. So would that be #26 or #27? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, bosrs1 said: Well for what its worth the San Diego group is targeting the March 2020 start. So would that be #26 or #27? I think 25 & 26 are scheduled for 2020. So would MLS add 2 California clubs at the same time and push St. Louis to 27/28 or would Sacramento get pushed back in favor of San Diego & St. Louis for 25/26 and then Sacramento & Charlotte would be 27/28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, Wings said: I think 25 & 26 are scheduled for 2020. So would MLS add 2 California clubs at the same time and push St. Louis to 27/28 or would Sacramento get pushed back in favor of San Diego & St. Louis for 25/26 and then Sacramento & Charlotte would be 27/28. I think IF San Diego moves into #26 it will push St. Louis out. St. Louis' stadium hit a major roadblock when the city and state denied the funding. As I understand it their stadium is completely stalled at the moment. And it shows no signs of clearing. Since SD's is privately funded we should know by June if it's going to know by the time MLS makes its decision if it's going to happen or not. And if that's the case I can see them doing two California teams since they're so geographically disparate thanks to California's size. I mean Sac is like putting a team in Norfolk, Virginia and San Diego like putting a team in Jacksonville, Florida geographically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 At this point, I'm not sure we should be talking about St. Louis as a serious contender. They seem unwilling to spend their own money, and the city/state is not going to do it for them. San Diego is perfectly positioned to jump to the head of the line. As much as I'd like to see Sacramento in MLS. And if Beckham stumbles, Sac could have that spot. I dont think the "two California teams!" thing is a concern for the league at all. This is the same league that introduced Vancouver, Seattle and Portland in rapid succession, after all. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just read some new news about CONCACAF CL at si.com & I think my head is going to melt or explode. It's like Davis Cup tennis only less sense. TFC aren't playing for 20 months now or something? lols @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Link or GTFO 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, 2001mark said: Just read some new news about CONCACAF CL at si.com & I think my head is going to melt or explode. It's like Davis Cup tennis only less sense. TFC aren't playing for 20 months now or something? lols 13 minutes ago, DG_Now said: Link or GTFO http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2017/01/24/concacaf-champions-league-format-ccl-change-mls-liga-mx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 21 hours ago, Gothamite said: At this point, I'm not sure we should be talking about St. Louis as a serious contender. They seem unwilling to spend their own money, and the city/state is not going to do it for them. San Diego is perfectly positioned to jump to the head of the line. As much as I'd like to see Sacramento in MLS. And if Beckham stumbles, Sac could have that spot. I dont think the "two California teams!" thing is a concern for the league at all. This is the same league that introduced Vancouver, Seattle and Portland in rapid succession, after all. In many ways, adding all three Cascadia teams in short order was very positive for re-creating the local derby competition in MLS. Having two LA teams, San Jose, and San Diego creates the potential to replicate that regional rivalry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Indeed. It can be a very smart way to expand. It's sort of the polar opposite of the NHL's "national footprint!" strategy. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Indeed. It can be a very smart way to expand. It's sort of the polar opposite of the NHL's "national footprint!" strategy. I always thought Tampa Bay wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell at MLS with Orlando, but of the most recent expansion applicants, the Rowdies seem to have a lot of their stuff in line. Orlando City and the Rowdies have always had a hot rivalry, both being in MLS as a derby would elevate it so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 minute ago, AstroBull21 said: Orlando City and the Rowdies have always had a hot rivalry, both being in MLS as a derby would elevate it so much. Well and we know MLS has a thing for rivalries. San Diego is a natural rival for both LA teams and all potentially 5 California teams, Sac, SD, LA Galaxy, LAFC, San Jose are all natural rivals with each other be it the North/South angle, the Liberal Coastal NorCal/Conservative Central NorCal angle, the LA/SD angle, tons of angles to play up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer15 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 22 hours ago, 2001mark said: Just read some new news about CONCACAF CL at si.com & I think my head is going to melt or explode. It's like Davis Cup tennis only less sense. TFC aren't playing for 20 months now or something? lols With the CPL potentially coming into the fold in 2018, maybe this break will be a chance to figure out how to get those teams involved in the Canadian Championship? GTA United(USA) 2015 + 2016 USA Champions/Toronto Maroons (ULL)2014, 2015 + 2022 Gait Cup Champions/Toronto Northmen (TNFF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 On 1/24/2017 at 3:55 PM, Corvus said: In many ways, adding all three Cascadia teams in short order was very positive for re-creating the local derby competition in MLS. Having two LA teams, San Jose, and San Diego creates the potential to replicate that regional rivalry. One of these things is not like the other. I believe adding a team a tad to the east would help balance that out though On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 San Diego's MLS group is unveiling their private stadium plans on Monday at 11:30am on board the USS Midway. Don Garber, MLS commissioner will be in town for the USMNT game Sunday, at 1pm at Qualcomm Stadium and is apparently hanging around for the MLS plan unveiling. Admission is free to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 It's official: Atlanta United sign terrible goal keeper to join the team in the summer: http://soccer.nbcsports.com/2017/01/25/brad-guzans-move-from-boro-to-atl-is-official-set-for-summer/ 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Mecklenberg County approved their side of funding for a SSS part of a Charlotte MLS bid, but the city won't vote just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxColonels Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 With all of these cities trying to beat one another to the punch on the next MLS expansion opportunity, I wonder what the saturation point is with the league. I know that Garber has thrown out a number or 2 here and there, but do we really believe he's going to stop if you still have 4,5,6 cities/ownership groups willing to pony up an expansion fee and build a new stadium at no expense to the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, GeauxColonels said: With all of these cities trying to beat one another to the punch on the next MLS expansion opportunity, I wonder what the saturation point is with the league. I know that Garber has thrown out a number or 2 here and there, but do we really believe he's going to stop if you still have 4,5,6 cities/ownership groups willing to pony up an expansion fee and build a new stadium at no expense to the league? Well they've said 28. And I think they will stop there for a while. But I can see MLS growing to 32 to match the NFL and by then NHL as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 I think they'll probably take a little break after 28, but there's no way they stop there. Maybe when they hit 40. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxColonels Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 48 minutes ago, Gothamite said: I think they'll probably take a little break after 28, but there's no way they stop there. Maybe when they hit 40. Which is what I'm truly afraid of. The quality of the league is getting better, no doubt. But, the pace of expansion can work against the quality as you spread players out over more teams. I'd hate to see the MLS take a step back in terms of quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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