crashcarson15 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'd contract the Kings and Pacers. Both are weak markets with rock-bottom attendance, so they aren't very profitable for the league. The only thing saving the Nets from my chopping block is the fact that they're moving to Brooklyn and could pick up a following there.The Pacers were actually relevant here during the Reggie Miller era. Now it's just "OMG THEY SUCK AND THEY'RE ALL THUGS!!!11" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loogodude90 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Actually, it looks like they're heading to the playoffs. Quote WIZARDS ORIOLES CAPITALS RAVENS UNITED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Actually, it looks like they're heading to the playoffs.Right, but nobody'll really notice until they get in the playoffs. Indy's actually a fairly frontrunning town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I figured that a East/West format wouldn't be a good idea in the NFL. Oh, well, anyway...I give you the NFL, had the Colts, Cardinals, Rams, and Oilers not moved to Indianapolis, Phoenix, St. Louis, and Nashville respectively. (More like a "what if" than a realignment, but then again... just a thought)AFCEastBaltimore ColtsBuffalo BillsNew England PatriotsNew York JetsNorthCincinnati BengalsCleveland BrownsIndianapolis Knights (expansion)Pittsburgh SteelersSouthCarolina Panthers (expansion)Houston OilersJacksonville Jaguars (expansion)Miami DolphinsWestDenver BroncosKansas City ChiefsOakland RaidersSan Diego ChargersNFCEastNew York GiantsPhiladelphia EaglesSt. Louis CardinalsWashington RedskinsNorthChicago BearsDetroit LionsGreen Bay PackersMinnesota VikingsSouthAtlanta FalconsDallas CowboysNew Orleans SaintsTampa Bay BuccaneersWestArizona Scorpions (expansion)Los Angeles RamsSan Francisco 49ersSeattle Seahawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think I'd like to see an Arizona Scorpions concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj4eck Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 AFC WESTDenver BroncosHouston TexansOakland RaidersSan Diego ChargersAFC NORTHCincinnati BengalsCleveland BrownsIndianapolis ColtsPittsburgh SteelersAFC SOUTHJacksonville JaguarsKansas City ChiefsMiami DolphinsTennessee TitansAFC EASTBaltimore RavensBuffalo BillsNew England PatriotsNew York JetsNFC WESTArizona CardinalsDallas CowboysSan Francisco 49ersSeattle SeahawksNFC NORTHChicago BearsDetroit LionsGreen Bay PackersMinnesota VikingsNFC SOUTHAtlanta FalconsNew Orleans SaintsSt. Louis RamsTampa Bay BuccaneersNFC EASTCarolina PanthersNew York GiantsPhiladelphia EaglesWashington Redskins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 AFC WESTDenver BroncosKansas City ChiefsOakland RaidersSan Diego ChargersAFC NORTHCincinnati BengalsCleveland BrownsIndianapolis ColtsPittsburgh SteelersAFC SOUTHHouston TexansJacksonville JaguarsMiami DolphinsTennessee TitansAFC EASTBaltimore RavensBuffalo BillsNew England PatriotsNew York JetsNFC WESTArizona CardinalsSan Francisco 49ersSeattle SeahawksSt. Louis RamsNFC NORTHChicago BearsDetroit LionsGreen Bay PackersMinnesota VikingsNFC SOUTHAtlanta FalconsDallas CowboysNew Orleans SaintsTampa Bay BuccaneersNFC EASTCarolina PanthersNew York GiantsPhiladelphia EaglesWashington RedskinsFixed it for ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) The admiral issued a challenge to expand Major & Minor League Baseball. Here's mine so far:MLBExpansion Teams: Charlotte (AL) & Portland (AL)AAAInternational LeagueExpansion Teams: Ottawa, ON & Springfield, MA (best I can think of)Movment: current Charlotte team to OrlandoAATexas LeagueExpansion Teams: El Paso, TX & Wichita, KSA-AdvanceCarolina LeagueExpansion Teams: Fayatteville, NC & Columbia, SCASouth Alantic League (even though they shouldn't)Expansion Teams: Dover, DE & Wimington, NCShort Season ANothwest LeagueExpansion Teams: Bend, OR & Walla Walla, WARookiePioneer LeagueExpansion Teams: Butte, MT & Logan, UTThat's my idea. Edited January 8, 2011 by BigMac12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 When you guys name what cities your expansion teams would be from, do you actually think about what requirements there are for a top-level team to be successful in a market, or do you just look for cities that have teams in other sports and decide that they should have teams in whatever sport you're reel lining?If anything, sports need contraction. If a top-level league was starting out today, many cities that have teams (because they've had them forever) wouldn't even be considered. Would the NFL really expand to Indianapolis? Buffalo? I'll even say Pittsburgh? Would MLB expand to... well, half of its cities? If you take away the cost certainty and playing field that a salary cap and revenue sharing allow for, many teams in the NFL might actually have folded or moved by now, and we'd be left with an accurate representation of what the top-level-sports markets are. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I can probably say that I don't, and that my proposals in this thread have been based on what I perceive to be a passion for the sport among the populace in the cities, without a lot of consideration to city/region population base, corporate support, etc.Hence, I believe that there are 14-16 markets that could still be well served by a top-level hockey team, but I don't know if they have the economic base for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 When you guys name what cities your expansion teams would be from, do you actually think about what requirements there are for a top-level team to be successful in a market, or do you just look for cities that have teams in other sports and decide that they should have teams in whatever sport you're reel lining?If anything, sports need contraction. If a top-level league was starting out today, many cities that have teams (because they've had them forever) wouldn't even be considered. Would the NFL really expand to Indianapolis? Buffalo? I'll even say Pittsburgh? Would MLB expand to... well, half of its cities? If you take away the cost certainty and playing field that a salary cap and revenue sharing allow for, many teams in the NFL might actually have folded or moved by now, and we'd be left with an accurate representation of what the top-level-sports markets are.I can probably say that I don't, and that my proposals in this thread have been based on what I perceive to be a passion for the sport among the populace in the cities, without a lot of consideration to city/region population base, corporate support, etc.Hence, I believe that there are 14-16 markets that could still be well served by a top-level hockey team, but I don't know if they have the economic base for it.I do think that the NHL should contract to a max of 28 teams, with the most obvious one contracted being Phoenix.As for the other pro leagues, I don't have as strong opinions because I don't watch them as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Oh what the hell, I'll respond to The Admiral's challenge as well.Let's do the following...Major League Baseball: Portland, Oregon and Sacramento, CaliforniaAAA Pacific Coast League: Southern California/Tucson, Arizona and Vancouver, British ColumbiaAA Texas League: El Paso, Texas and Wichita, KansasA-Adv California League: Los Angeles Area and San Francisco Bay AreaA Midwest League: Duluth, Minnesota and Green Bay, WisconsinSSA New York-Penn League: St. Catharines, Ontario and Kitchener, OntarioRookie Pioneer League: Walla Walla, Washington and Logan, UtahJust an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Oh what the hell, I'll respond to The Admiral's challenge as well.Let's do the following...Major League Baseball: Portland, Oregon and Sacramento, CaliforniaAAA Pacific Coast League: Southern California/Tucson, Arizona and Vancouver, British ColumbiaAA Texas League: El Paso, Texas and Wichita, KansasA-Adv California League: Los Angeles Area and San Francisco Bay AreaA Midwest League: Duluth, Minnesota and Green Bay, WisconsinSSA New York-Penn League: St. Catharines, Ontario and Kitchener, OntarioRookie Pioneer League: Walla Walla, Washington and Logan, UtahJust an idea.Duluth's a little out of the way (and the local stadium's a bit long in tooth) for the MWL. The Timber Rattlers might also grow a little testy if you plopped a team in Green Bay./The Low A teams would almost certainly go to the Sally League anyway. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Oh what the hell, I'll respond to The Admiral's challenge as well.Let's do the following...Major League Baseball: Portland, Oregon and Sacramento, CaliforniaAAA Pacific Coast League: Southern California/Tucson, Arizona and Vancouver, British ColumbiaAA Texas League: El Paso, Texas and Wichita, KansasA-Adv California League: Los Angeles Area and San Francisco Bay AreaA Midwest League: Duluth, Minnesota and Green Bay, WisconsinSSA New York-Penn League: St. Catharines, Ontario and Kitchener, OntarioRookie Pioneer League: Walla Walla, Washington and Logan, UtahJust an idea.If you're expanding to Sacramento at the AL level, then you lose the PCL RiverCats and need to account for that, too. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Oh what the hell, I'll respond to The Admiral's challenge as well.Let's do the following...Major League Baseball: Portland, Oregon and Sacramento, CaliforniaAAA Pacific Coast League: Southern California/Tucson, Arizona and Vancouver, British ColumbiaAA Texas League: El Paso, Texas and Wichita, KansasA-Adv California League: Los Angeles Area and San Francisco Bay AreaA Midwest League: Duluth, Minnesota and Green Bay, WisconsinSSA New York-Penn League: St. Catharines, Ontario and Kitchener, OntarioRookie Pioneer League: Walla Walla, Washington and Logan, UtahJust an idea.If you're expanding to Sacramento at the AL level, then you lose the PCL RiverCats and need to account for that, too.Good points by both of you (and I forgot the Sacto issue).I'll put the extra AAA team in Calgary. I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Well then... if "the admiral" is throwing down a 32-team MLB expansion challenge, I might as well join in.MLBExpansion Teams: Charlotte, NC (American League) & Portland, OR (American League)AAAInternational LeagueExpansion Teams: Ottawa, ON & Hartford, CT(additionally the Charlotte Knights would move to Orlando, FL)AATexas LeagueExpansion Teams: Rio Grande Valley, TX & Wichita, KSA-AdvancedCarolina LeagueExpansion Teams: Fayetteville, NC & Columbia, SCASouth Alantic LeagueExpansion Teams: Macon, GA & Anderson, SCShort Season ANothwest LeagueExpansion Teams: Bellingham, WA & Bend, ORRookie-AdvancedPioneer LeagueExpansion Teams: Lethbridge, AB, Canada & Pocatello, ID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 World League: The Next Generation.Based on my two ProCombat series:WLAFFantasyOption 1:European:Amsterdam AdmiralsBarcelona DragonsFrankfurt GalaxyLondon MonarchsRhein FireScottish ClaymoresNorth American East:Birmingham HammersMontreal MachineNY/NJ KnightsOrlando ThunderRaleigh-Durham SkyhawksNorth American West:Los Angeles VillainsMexico City AztecsPortland PrankstersSacramento SurgeSan Antonio RidersOption 2:European:Frankfurt GalaxyLondon MonarchsRhein FireScottish ClaymoresTransatlantic:Amsterdam AdmiralsBarcelona DragonsNY/NJ KnightsOrlando ThunderNorth American East:Birmingham HammersMontreal MachineRaleigh-Durham SkyhawksSan Antonio RidersNorth American West:Los Angeles VillainsMexico City AztecsPortland PrankstersSacramento Surge Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakonius26 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Hmmm... interesting topics, so why not do what the NFL will look like in 10 years...National Football LeagueAmerican Football ConferenceWestern DivisionDenver BroncosKansas City ChiefsOakland RaidersSan Diego ChargersNorthern DivisionBaltimore RavensCincinnati BengalsCleveland BrownsPittsburgh SteelersSouthern DivisionHouston TexansIndianapolis ColtsSan Antonio Stars (Expansion team, though one can hope...)St. Louis Bombers (Perhaps a nod to the Greatest Show On Turf)Eastern DivisionBuffalo BillsMiami DolphinsNew England PatriotsNew York JetsNational Football ConferenceWestern DivisionLos Angeles Rams (The Rams are relocated back to Los Angeles after Ed Roski and his ownership group buy out Stanley Kroenke, who later purchases and then moves the Jacksonville Jaguars to St. Louis)Phoenix Firebirds (I know, shameless plug...)San Francisco 49ersSeattle SeahawksNorthern DivisionChicago BearsDetroit LionsGreen Bay PackersMinnesota VikingsSouthern DivisionAtlanta FalconsCarolina PanthersNew Orleans SaintsTampa Bay BuccaneersEastern DivisionDallas CowboysNew York GiantsPhiladelphia EaglesWashington Warriors (The politically correct crowd finally wins, after Daniel Snyder loses ownership of the team to a richer and more left-leaning owner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Hmmm... interesting topics, so why not do what the NFL will look like in 10 years...National Football LeagueAmerican Football ConferenceWestern DivisionDenver BroncosKansas City ChiefsOakland RaidersSan Diego ChargersNorthern DivisionBaltimore RavensCincinnati BengalsCleveland BrownsPittsburgh SteelersSouthern DivisionHouston TexansIndianapolis ColtsSan Antonio Stars (Expansion team, though one can hope...)St. Louis Bombers (Perhaps a nod to the Greatest Show On Turf)Eastern DivisionBuffalo BillsMiami DolphinsNew England PatriotsNew York JetsNational Football ConferenceWestern DivisionLos Angeles Rams (The Rams are relocated back to Los Angeles after Ed Roski and his ownership group buy out Stanley Kroenke, who later purchases and then moves the Jacksonville Jaguars to St. Louis)Phoenix Firebirds (I know, shameless plug...)San Francisco 49ersSeattle SeahawksNorthern DivisionChicago BearsDetroit LionsGreen Bay PackersMinnesota VikingsSouthern DivisionAtlanta FalconsCarolina PanthersNew Orleans SaintsTampa Bay BuccaneersEastern DivisionDallas CowboysNew York GiantsPhiladelphia EaglesWashington Warriors (The politically correct crowd finally wins, after Daniel Snyder loses ownership of the team to a richer and more left-leaning owner)As much as people want it to happen, the Redskins are never changing their name, and any new owner that tries to change will likely be branded a socialist/commie/marxist/Nazi by the fans.NFL in 10 years:AFC West:Denver BroncosKansas City ChiefsLos Angeles AvengersOakland RaidersAFC South:Birmingham JaguarsHouston DrillersIndianapolis ColtsTennessee TitansNFC WestArizona CardinalsOmaha RamsSan Francisco 49ersSeattle SeahawksAll the other divisions would be the same as right now. Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRangersFan Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 **MLB 2014** Quote May God bless you all and fill your hearts with faith, hope, and love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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