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Eagles resigned Darren Sprowles, which really pisses me off. Still a good player but can’t be relied on and will take a roster spot from someone that could develop. 

 

Someone today said he might be a HOFer - that can’t be right... right?

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1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said:

Eagles resigned Darren Sprowles, which really pisses me off. Still a good player but can’t be relied on and will take a roster spot from someone that could develop. 

 

Someone today said he might be a HOFer - that can’t be right... right?

 

He's 6th all-time in all-purpose yards.  And 4 out of the 5 ahead of him are in the Hall of Fame. His longevity is a lot of it but he's also the recordholder for most single season all-purpose yards too. Guy has had a hell of a run. Not bad for a 5'6" guy from K-State.

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On 7/15/2019 at 10:32 PM, Sykotyk said:

Go to a16 game, 19 week season. Give every team three byes. You do cut down on total games per week but still increase the number of viewing windows. 

 

Players would love the extra rest. No more than 5 straight weeks for any one team. You can also time it with Thursday or Monday games. 

I'm honestly shocked that this hasn't happened already. The modern NFL is a TV product, first and foremost. They don't need more games; they need more episodes of TV's highest-rated shows.

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16 hours ago, Red Comet said:

 

He's 6th all-time in all-purpose yards.  And 4 out of the 5 ahead of him are in the Hall of Fame. His longevity is a lot of it but he's also the recordholder for most single season all-purpose yards too. Guy has had a hell of a run. Not bad for a 5'6" guy from K-State.

 

I looked this up, and that 1 out of 5 is Brian Mitchell.  Considering the 'standards' for NFL HOF, how is he not in there?  Dude could do everything, and was one of the first truly feared return specialists that I can remember.  IIRC he even played QB for WAS in the 'body bag' game.  I know he was loved when he played here, because all he did was get yards.

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1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

I looked this up, and that 1 out of 5 is Brian Mitchell.  Considering the 'standards' for NFL HOF, how is he not in there?  Dude could do everything, and was one of the first truly feared return specialists that I can remember.  IIRC he even played QB for WAS in the 'body bag' game.  I know he was loved when he played here, because all he did was get yards.

He's somewhat of a complier, like how Frank Gore's career is going to be seen. While he was on a Super Bowl winner, look at the Top 5 again he doesn't stand out as a game changer. Ask yourself if the history of the NFL was a book, would it be incomplete without Mitchell? I'd say no. I'd say Devin Hester was a better player.

 

There's also a bit of a logjam of more impactful players retired just as long who aren't in.

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9 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

He's somewhat of a complier, like how Frank Gore's career is going to be seen. While he was on a Super Bowl winner, look at the Top 5 again he doesn't stand out as a game changer. Ask yourself if the history of the NFL was a book, would it be incomplete without Mitchell? I'd say no. I'd say Devin Hester was a better player.

 

There's also a bit of a logjam of more impactful players retired just as long who aren't in.

 

This should be the standard - for all leagues - but it's not, so it's irrelevant.  I'd argue that he was way more valuable than Hester, who (correct me if I'm wrong) was really just a returner, while Mitchell did a little of everything.

 

He was absolutely a game changer, though not in a flashy way like a Hester or lots of other guys.  He was a player that teams had to account for and gameplan against... at least on special teams.

 

Not saying he's on a Mt. Rushmore or anything, but IMO it wouldn't be a head-scratcher if he did make it to the HOF.  It may not be a no-brainer, but if he got in, I don't think anyone could argue much against it.

 

 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

This should be the standard - for all leagues - but it's not, so it's irrelevant.  I'd argue that he was way more valuable than Hester, who (correct me if I'm wrong) was really just a returner, while Mitchell did a little of everything.

 

He was absolutely a game changer, though not in a flashy way like a Hester or lots of other guys.  He was a player that teams had to account for and gameplan against... at least on special teams.

 

Not saying he's on a Mt. Rushmore or anything, but IMO it wouldn't be a head-scratcher if he did make it to the HOF.  It may not be a no-brainer, but if he got in, I don't think anyone could argue much against it.

 

 

 

 

I consider Hester more all around, Mitchell outside of return yards had only 4000 yards receiving and rushing combined over a 15 year career. Which is less than 300 yards a season. Devin Hester was able to be a No. 2 receiver for a portion of his career and just caught for 3300 yards over 11 years while not being a receiver for 2 years. 

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Now that Training Camps are starting, I thought I'd give so early hot takes for the season

 

- Browns will win the AFC North (They will also make the AFC Championship)

- Patriots will finish at least 10-6 BUT will have to play in the Wildcard (likely Jacksonville)

- NFC Championship will be Cowboys vs. Bears

- Drew Lock will Replace Joe Flacco by week 7

 

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Bucs are gonna suck again. I’ll watch them lose week 1 vs the Niners because it’s in my market, and that’ll be about all for my football viewing year. 

 

 

Go Sun Devils? 

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My predictions for the AFC. Spoiler because of length

 

Probably going to be as accurate as any other prediction I'd make but what the hell. Not predicting records (aside from seeding) as that is an even bigger crapshoot than predicting the broader regular season and postseason.



 

AFC North

1. Cleveland (4)

2. Baltimore (6)

3. Pittsburgh

4. Cincinnati 

 

AFC East

1. New England (2)

2. New York

3. Buffalo Bills

4. Miami Dolphins

 

AFC South

1. Indianapolis (3)

2. Houston

3. Tennessee 

4. Jacksonville 

 

AFC West

1. Kansas City (1)

2. Los Angeles (5)

3. Oakland

4. Denver

 

AFC Wild Card:

(5) Los Angeles beats (4)Cleveland 

(3) Indianapolis beats (6) Baltimore

 

AFC Divisional:

(1) Kansas City beats (5) Los Angeles

(2) New England beats (3) Indianapolis 

 

AFC Championship

(1) Kansas City beats (2) New England

 

And now the NFC plus the Super Bowl

 

NFC North



1. Chicago (3)

2. Green Bay

3. Minnesota

4. Detroit

 

NFC East

1. Philadelphia (4)

2. Dallas

3. New York 

4. Washington

 

NFC South

1. New Orleans (2)

2. Atlanta (5)

3. Carolina

4. Tampa Bay

 

NFC West

1. Los Angeles (1)

2. San Francisco (6)

3. Seattle

4. Arizona

 

Wild Card

(4) Philadelphia beats (5) Atlanta

(3) Chicago beats (6) San Francisco 

 

Divisional 

(1) Los Angeles beats (4) Philadelphia 

(3) Chicago beats (2) New Orleans

 

Championship 

(3) Chicago beats (1) Los Angeles

 

Super Bowl LIV

Kansas City beats Chicago

 

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In other NFL news, Kevin Byard just got paid handsomely.

 

I'm glad for him and for the Snatit...dude's playing at an all-star pace, and it's still early, but if he keeps up the pace, we could be seeing a potential Hall-of-Famer in the making.

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1 hour ago, Buc said:

In other NFL news, Kevin Byard just got paid handsomely.

 

I'm glad for him and for the Snatit...dude's playing at an all-star pace, and it's still early, but if he keeps up the pace, we could be seeing a potential Hall-of-Famer in the making.

Well deserved contract for the Middle Tennessee State grad! Go Blue!

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3 hours ago, selby56 said:

Well deserved contract for the Middle Tennessee State grad! Go Blue!

Yup..."The Mayor of Murfreesboro"-- that's what they call him around town. And to think, dude didn't even get a combine invite. Now here he is, willingly taking on more of a leadership role--and getting PAID to do so. I really like the guy... easily one of my favorites to watch. 

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44 minutes ago, Buc said:

Yup..."The Mayor of Murfreesboro"-- that's what they call him around town. And to think, dude didn't even get a combine invite. Now here he is, willingly taking on more of a leadership role--and getting PAID to do so. I really like the guy... easily one of my favorites to watch. 

I actually work for MTSU and a handful of teams came to our Pro Day. I remember hearing the Browns were so impressed with Byard they flew him to their facilities that night and had a private workout with him the next day. As a Browns fan and MTSU employee I was beyond pumped at the idea of him becoming a Browns player. 

 

Obviously the Titans got him the pick right before us. But I think it has worked out well for him, he comes back to Murfreesboro a lot and supports pretty much all athletics here. It isn't uncommon to see him at a women's soccer game or a baseball game a few times a year just sitting in the bleachers. 

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1 hour ago, selby56 said:

I actually work for MTSU and a handful of teams came to our Pro Day. I remember hearing the Browns were so impressed with Byard they flew him to their facilities that night and had a private workout with him the next day. As a Browns fan and MTSU employee I was beyond pumped at the idea of him becoming a Browns player. 

 

Obviously the Titans got him the pick right before us. But I think it has worked out well for him, he comes back to Murfreesboro a lot and supports pretty much all athletics here. It isn't uncommon to see him at a women's soccer game or a baseball game a few times a year just sitting in the bleachers. 

 

That's what's up right there. That's also how you build a fanbase. Tennessee certainly lucked out with him, Byard being a "homegrown" and all. 

 

Between him and Derrick Henry, the Snatit should have most of Tennessee and half of Alabama on lock by now. (Except they don't...)

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On 7/20/2019 at 1:27 PM, dont care said:

I consider Hester more all around, Mitchell outside of return yards had only 4000 yards receiving and rushing combined over a 15 year career. Which is less than 300 yards a season. Devin Hester was able to be a No. 2 receiver for a portion of his career and just caught for 3300 yards over 11 years while not being a receiver for 2 years. 

Correct.  Hester was a superior player and was a star. Mitchell was never a Star

He and Mitchell both have 255 receptions, but Hester has more TDs and a bigger yards per catch.  Hester has a better average KR yards and PR yards per attempt too.  Hester has more return TDs.

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Man I hope this rule bites Sean Payton in the ass every game because his bitching has actually caused flopping in football to be a legitimate strategy. 

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