WideRight Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 And a bit of news. The Chicago Machine lost a trademark infringement lawsuit from a small machining company in Michigan, so they have to drop the M (originally from the Montreal Machine). I have 2 options here, I can modify the Chicago Enforcers logo or I can create a new logo. I am leaning towards the latter. It will be a new logo, but one with significant inspiration from the Montreal Machine M, so not entirely new, which is something I am trying to avoid, using borrowed, or otherwises sourced logos whenever possible. That new logo will be revealed soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalErnst Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, WideRight said: And a bit of news. The Chicago Machine lost a trademark infringement lawsuit from a small machining company in Michigan, so they have to drop the M (originally from the Montreal Machine). I have 2 options here, I can modify the Chicago Enforcers logo or I can create a new logo. I am leaning towards the latter. It will be a new logo, but one with significant inspiration from the Montreal Machine M, so not entirely new, which is something I am trying to avoid, using borrowed, or otherwises sourced logos whenever possible. That new logo will be revealed soon. I was a huge fan of the XFL so obviously I’m partial to all of those teams, but I can’t wait to see what you churn out. Have you seen any of the new USFL logos that were leaked? They are terrible.. and I’m hoping they’re false Quote THE Xtreme Fantasy Football League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I was hoping you'd go XFL Enforcers with the fist holding a wrench or something. But I guess that's a little too Invaders for comfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I think it would be best if you created a completely new logo for the Machine. Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 18 hours ago, BengalErnst said: I was a huge fan of the XFL so obviously I’m partial to all of those teams, but I can’t wait to see what you churn out. Have you seen any of the new USFL logos that were leaked? They are terrible.. and I’m hoping they’re false Just saw them. Several are definitely downgrades from the originals but I did not hate most of them. I will say they have a couple that are not far off from what I was thinking (PIT, TBY, MGN, BHM). More on Chicago soon, but for now here are the next 2 teams, Chicago (1995 version) and Birmingham. Only 3 left, Baltimore, Atlanta, and Arizona. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalErnst Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, WideRight said: Just saw them. Several are definitely downgrades from the originals but I did not hate most of them. I will say they have a couple that are not far off from what I was thinking (PIT, TBY, MGN, BHM). No those look a lot better once they were colored differently.. the leaked versions I saw didn’t have them colored that way. These look much more competent 1 Quote THE Xtreme Fantasy Football League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 And now the final 3 teams and their 1995 uniforms. Three uni updates are coming for the 1996 season: Chicago, Jacksonville, and New Jersey. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qckgnc Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 8:20 PM, WideRight said: And a bit of news. The Chicago Machine lost a trademark infringement lawsuit from a small machining company in Michigan, so they have to drop the M (originally from the Montreal Machine). I have 2 options here, I can modify the Chicago Enforcers logo or I can create a new logo. I am leaning towards the latter. It will be a new logo, but one with significant inspiration from the Montreal Machine M, so not entirely new, which is something I am trying to avoid, using borrowed, or otherwises sourced logos whenever possible. That new logo will be revealed soon. You could do the Enforcers logo with the machine cog "C" from the Chicago Machine (MLL, not a football team). I know you dont intend to use any arena logos but the old Danville Demolition logo (bulldozer) would make a solid secondary for the Machine, its more professional than a majority of indoor/arena stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 After seeing the new 2022 USFL logos, I wanted to see if I could merge the new red-orange-gold logo with a more traditional Stars logo. I think I like this quite a bit, and it might just make its way into the Alt History USFL I have been working on. What do you think? I think the use of orange actually does help with the transition from one star to the other. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 That does help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 9:20 PM, WideRight said: And a bit of news. The Chicago Machine lost a trademark infringement lawsuit from a small machining company in Michigan, so they have to drop the M (originally from the Montreal Machine). I have 2 options here, I can modify the Chicago Enforcers logo or I can create a new logo. I am leaning towards the latter. It will be a new logo, but one with significant inspiration from the Montreal Machine M, so not entirely new, which is something I am trying to avoid, using borrowed, or otherwises sourced logos whenever possible. That new logo will be revealed soon. What about a third option: rebrand the team with a completely new identity? Maybe something along the lines of Chicago Bruisers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalErnst Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 hours ago, JH42XCC said: What about a third option: rebrand the team with a completely new identity? Maybe something along the lines of Chicago Bruisers? XFL hitmen logo would actually go pretty well with “Bruisers” Quote THE Xtreme Fantasy Football League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Thanks, guys, but while I appreciate the suggestions, I just love the idea of Chicago Machine as a team name in that city. It combines the blue-collar mentality of Chicago with the city's reputation for political hackery and corruption (The Chicago Machine is a well-known turn of phrase in the city to the idea of inside politics and shenanigans by those in power in the city.) I think I have developed what I want to use, and will be revealing it soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Not ready to reveal the new Chicago logo yet, but I do have 2 other clubs that are getting new uniforms for 1996, Jacksonville and New Jersey. So, here is the new look for the Jacksonville Bulls. Shoulder yokes, side stripes, and logos on sleeves being the big trend to watch for in the late 90's and early 2000's. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, WideRight said: Not ready to reveal the new Chicago logo yet, but I do have 2 other clubs that are getting new uniforms for 1996, Jacksonville and New Jersey. So, here is the new look for the Jacksonville Bulls. Shoulder yokes, side stripes, and logos on sleeves being the big trend to watch for in the late 90's and early 2000's. Shoulder yoke, pants stripes, and socks are all upgrades imo! I think the color balance is a little off with the burgundy pants on the away uniform. Would look great with the grey or white pants though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Stripes on burgundy pants are flopped, but not sure which version is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJimmy Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I get the feeling it'd look a lot better with a burgundy yoke on the away jersey; I get that it'd minimize the amount of grey on those unis, but I think it'd look a lot better with the white base. other than that, everything else about these is pretty top-notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 One more for you before the Chicago reveal. Here are the new look New Jersey Generals. Some keys: 1. Return of the laurel leaf logo,but still with blue outlining (see USFL 2022 for inspiration). 2. Drop shadow numbers. with gold and blue outlines. 3. New secondary logo (too good to resist) now a patch on the chest. 4. Side panels morph into pant stripe with an "epaulette" concept (Tried it on shoulders, did not like it.) 5. New wordmark with state of NJ included for emphasis. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qckgnc Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Normally not a fan of underarm stripes and piping but I really appreciate how it works with this set. Go Gens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycast Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 13 hours ago, WideRight said: One more for you before the Chicago reveal. Here are the new look New Jersey Generals. Some keys: 1. Return of the laurel leaf logo,but still with blue outlining (see USFL 2022 for inspiration). 2. Drop shadow numbers. with gold and blue outlines. 3. New secondary logo (too good to resist) now a patch on the chest. 4. Side panels morph into pant stripe with an "epaulette" concept (Tried it on shoulders, did not like it.) 5. New wordmark with state of NJ included for emphasis. I love the addition of blue and the pant stripe, not a fan of the laurel leaf on the helmet though. It just looks too busy or cluttered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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