NFL 2022 Changes

[ripall90]

18 minutes ago, Bathysphere said:

Okay, this is :censored:ing ridiculous. Whenever ripall90 gets computer time, this whole thread turns into Ripall’s Opinions Bonanza. Not that it’s being helped by other posters responding to everything he says, but, dude: what is your end game in clogging up the NFL Changes 2022 thread with your ideas for what what you like in uniforms, then arguing tooth and nail when people inevitably disagree with you based on 20+ years of discourse that has laid the foundation for this forum’s prevailing convictions?
 

Yes, this board has a long history of dogmatically supporting historical designs over most new aged ones and it has formed into something like a hivemind to the outsider. Yes, you are actually allowed to disagree with the hivemind, which has been done plenty of times before without any fuss. Id like to single out @CaliforniaGlowin, who has been the model for vocally supporting wacko designs and accepting criticism for them with no skin off of his or any other users’ backs.
 

But, disagreeing this LOUDLY, relentlessly clapping back at every single post dissenting from yours, fighting feverishly for Jesse Alkire’s designs like they were your life’s work and this forum is the Shield itself deliberating on whether or not to accept them as the new look of the league, acting as though you bring wisdom from the mythical outside world of what actually makes uniforms “cool,” trying to “gotcha!” other posters as if somebody will finally break and be like “oh, you’re right! That Panthers helmet concept we don’t like *is* just like that one Boise State helmet! It is cool actually!” so you can score a W; it’s bad forum etiquette, it’s obstructing the day to day course of conversation, and it’s getting you NOWHERE.
 

NOBODY is going to change their opinions for you and you refuse to adjust your posting to reflect that. You think you’re posting about the uniforms, but you’re really just posting about YOURSELF. Nobody here who’s lasted longer than two weeks before storming off in a huff throws such long and winded tantrums about what they do and don’t like.  I hate to say it, and I really never wanted to join back in on the piling on after basically starting it because it’s not a pleasant spirit to post in, but it’s just sad at this point how shamelessly unaware you are of how nearly everything you say and how you say it has been documented hundreds and hundreds of times on this website since it’s launch as being the antithesis of how the forum approaches sports uniform discussion. Like, it’s uncanny, as if you know exactly what you’re doing to push other posters’ buttons.
 

This is a place that people come to for DISCUSSION, not ARGUMENTS. If reading the posts here and listening to the opinions that differ from yours angers you to the point that you’re essentially writing novels daily to futilely attempt to make people see your point of view for the absolute fact that you believe it to be, forcing your way into being the focal point of discussion for as long as you’ve posted here, then you would be doing yourself and your blood pressure a huge favor by seeing your way out. You don’t have to be this mad. That is purely up to you. Im sorry that this community is not the place for you to get your personal uniform thoughts off of your chest, though apparently there are plenty of folks in the “real world” who would be pleased to hear you out.

 

If you continue this rate of madposting, then I’ll assume either you’ve learned nothing or you’re a troll. I will similarly challenge other posters to stop replying as the guy is pathologically unable to stop himself from replying back and making himself even more mad. Im just sick of this thread becoming page after page of Ripall90 vs the world, and it isn’t the world’s fault.

I'm sorry you feel that way but I don't feel I have been inflammatory or made this about myself. Whenever I do get upset I walk away. I am just giving my opinion and have stated I do not want to try to change anyone's minds

[DCarp1231]

9 minutes ago, ripall90 said:

I'm sorry you feel that way but I don't feel I have been inflammatory or made this about myself. Whenever I do get upset I walk away. I am just giving my opinion and have stated I do not want to try to change anyone's minds

You’ve made it a point to respond to everyone. You haven’t walked away from anything. All you’ve done is talk in circles. You could’ve been the bigger man and changed the subject or just waited out the fire, but you chose not to. You chose to arrogantly shoot back at any rebuttals and refusing to acknowledge the other side. You’ve started arguments not discussions.

 

Opinions are clearly a welcomed addition to these boards, but you’ve clearly dug yourself into a canyon. So good luck getting out.

[ripall90]

@DCarp1231
I did both things and I do acknowledge the other side. But sure let's change the subject. I don't like the Elf on the Browns field. Didn't they use to have the helmet logo at mid field? 

[the_grateful_ted]

“Don’t clog up the board with your opinions” -everybody on the board 

 

also everybody on the board- (responds to every single one of his comments) 

 

The gang-up going on is absolutely ridiculous, if you don’t agree don’t respond Jesus

[ripall90]

Just now, the_grateful_ted said:

“Don’t clog up the board with your opinions” -everybody on the board 

 

also everybody on the board- (responds to every single one of his comments) 

 

The gang-up going on is absolutely ridiculous, if you don’t agree don’t respond Jesus

I like the Browns field better with the helmet 

[the_grateful_ted]

2 minutes ago, ripall90 said:

I like the Browns field better with the helmet 

Ok this annoyed me maybe y’all were right 

[DCarp1231]

I’ve never really thought much of the helmet as a good logo. The elf is a better option at midfield though.
 

However, I was pretty fond of the Browns using their stripe along the entirety of the 50 yard line last year.

 

[colinturner95]

1 minute ago, DCarp1231 said:

I’ve never really thought much of the helmet as a good logo. The elf is a better option at midfield though.
 

However, I was pretty fond of the Browns using their stripe along the entirety of the 50 yard line last year.

 

Kinda reminded me of hockey teams doing something unique to their red line. Wish more teams would do it. 

[oldschoolvikings]

4 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

Today I learned that @oldschoolvikings isn’t a real person

 

I knew those unusually automated grey facemask responses were questionable

 

Dammit!!!  Abort... abort!!

[infrared41]

42 minutes ago, ripall90 said:

I don't like the Elf on the Browns field.

 

You were outvoted by actual Browns fans.

[ssj_homeslice]

I understand that i'm going against the grain but i didn't necessarily mind the Broncos pairing the blue pants with the white jerseys. I get that the design doesn't "work", but the blue pants add some orange that their road design lacks. 

[ripall90]

yup and I will never understand browns fans

[ripall90]

1 hour ago, the_grateful_ted said:

Ok this annoyed me maybe y’all were right 

i was trying to change the topic...

[sky1324]

I don't like the elf at midfield and I've never cared for the bulldog branding either - I've always felt the blank helmet was strong enough to serve as the logo. What I don't like about what they use now is that it's a generic NFL template and not a unique logo built specifically for them. A return to the 60s-style one- or two-bar helmet with an emphasis on the iconic stripe is a good way to go in my opinion. Since I saw specifically the top middle from this selection from Gridiron Labs I've been of the opinion that that's the way to go.

 

[PERRIN]

23 minutes ago, CDCLT said:

I don't like the elf at midfield and I've never cared for the bulldog branding either - I've always felt the blank helmet was strong enough to serve as the logo. What I don't like about what they use now is that it's a generic NFL template and not a unique logo built specifically for them. A return to the 60s-style one- or two-bar helmet with an emphasis on the iconic stripe is a good way to go in my opinion. Since I saw specifically the top middle from this selection from Gridiron Labs I've been of the opinion that that's the way to go.

 

Top middle as primary, bottom right as secondary. Boom. Done. That's all the Browns need. Simple, yet classy. Doesn't bother me too much that the facemark doesn't align with the Browns' current helmet, it feels more historical and is necessary on the brown background.

[FiddySicks]

3 hours ago, ripall90 said:

@DCarp1231
I did both things and I do acknowledge the other side. But sure let's change the subject. I don't like the Elf on the Browns field. Didn't they use to have the helmet logo at mid field? 

NGL, I don’t really either. Something about it just looks “off” to me. I think it’s too big. The skin tone face also looks kinda weird to me

[oldschoolvikings]

I love the elf at midfield. In fact, I love everything about the elf in pretty much all situations.  If he existed IRL I’d let him move in and give him the guest room permanently. 


 

 

*beep* gray face mask *beep*

[Sec19Row53]

17 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

 

Are you watching a lot of games from the sky? Just hovering there above the players, maybe attached to one of those camera rigs? 

 

Literally nobody, in today's high-definition world, needs to reference tiny shoulder numbers to identify a player.  Broadcasters aren't suddenly scrambling for help to identify players on the Chargers because the team decided not to shoehorn a needless element onto the shoulders. 

 

And listen, could they fit on some uniforms? Sure, in the tiniest form, perhaps. You could also probably rest a bowl of soup on their shoulders, or a small dog, but you don't because doing so wouldn't make any sense. Just like forcing TV numbers on there. 

Literally me, sitting in Row 53 at Lambeau Field, uses TV numbers to help ID players on the field during a game.

Your statement is factually incorrect in that case, because someone is still getting use of them. I wholeheartedly agree that the shrinking of them should relegate them to the past, but where they are still legible, they are useful.

[gosioux76]

11 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

Literally me, sitting in Row 53 at Lambeau Field, uses TV numbers to help ID players on the field during a game.

Your statement is factually incorrect in that case, because someone is still getting use of them. I wholeheartedly agree that the shrinking of them should relegate them to the past, but where they are still legible, they are useful.

 

Well, looks like we found the one person. 

[Sport]

And the TV numbers are very legible on the Packers. 

 

I don't take a hardline stance like our new friend thinks. Sometimes TV numbers are okay, but I'm also not going to argue that every football uniform must have them even when they're shrinking to a humorously small size like the Panthers and a couple other teams. One of my favorite football uniforms ever, actually, is the Eddie George era Ohio State with the champion numbers you could read from space. 

 

But that was at a time when shoulder pad real estate was at its absolute peak in terms of size and you could get away with it. It looked cool because you had the space to pull it off. Even with the size of those numbers there's still space for the stripes and room for the numbers to breathe. These days the space is at least half of what it was back then and if a team wants to use that space for a design element like a series of stripes or a logo then the first thing I'm cutting is the TV number, which isn't and never has been an absolute necessity (IDK if you know this, but there's two very large numbers on the front and back of a football jersey).

 

If OSU went back to the correct sleeve stripes like the Good Dude intended then I wouldn't be bothered if they opted against TV numbers altogether or used the 68 throwback with the black TV number full-time.