FiddySicks Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 11 hours ago, the admiral said: #3 media market and who we thought would be a exciting young quarterback (oops, can't make throws). I think the Bears had national games against the Packers and Patriots in the second Marc Trestman year, too. It was that Packers game on Sunday night. While I understand this sentiment, I don’t think it’s really all that fair. The Bears O line has been particularly atrocious this year, even by their standards, and they have probably the most trash WR core in the entire league. It’s really difficult to get production from a guy when he’s being pressured at a damn near 50% clip and nobody can hang onto passes. This shouldn’t really come as any surprise, but it’s not Justin Fields that’s the problem, it was ownership giving the old GM and coach a season longer than they should’ve. Out of total desperation, they traded a ton of assets for a guy who is probably better than any QB they’ve had in the last 30 years, but he has absolutely zero support around him. It’s just the Bears doing the typical thing of setting their young talent up to fail. You can absolutely see some flashes of his potential (that late scramble that got them into the red zone being one example), but he’s already been shell shocked by having basically nothing to work with. 1 Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 That's a fair assessment, but "better than any QB they've had" might be a little ambitious. He's not better than Jay Cutler. Is he better than Kordell Stewart? Anyway, sucks for him, because the new management will probably want their own guy, and he'll come into his own someplace else. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen would've been a bust had the Bears drafted either of them. Ffs, Chicago's the Graveyard of Quarterbacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Red Comet said: Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen would've been a bust had the Bears drafted either of them. Ffs, Chicago's the Graveyard of Quarterbacks. Washington would like a word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, DCarp1231 said: Washington would like a word Jets also have a case. Though it could end with Zach Wilson if he stays healthy. Jets have not had a 4000 yard passer since Joe Namath. 1 Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, DCarp1231 said: Washington would like a word Yeah, except the last good QB to play for that franchise was Joe Thesimann rather than Sid Luckman. Plus, Washington is where everything goes to die, not just quarterbacks. Quarterbacks, running backs, defensive linemen, offensive linemen, fiscal restraint, common sense, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 12 hours ago, the admiral said: That's a fair assessment, but "better than any QB they've had" might be a little ambitious. He's not better than Jay Cutler. Is he better than Kordell Stewart? Anyway, sucks for him, because the new management will probably want their own guy, and he'll come into his own someplace else. That’s also probably fair (but lol yes, he’s much better than Kordell. At least, by the time Kordell got to Chicago, anyway), but I’ll say this about Cutler. I don’t think he was nearly as physically gifted as Fields is, and he’s a bit of a weird situation because he sort of just fell into Chicago’s lap. He wasn’t a guy they drafted and developed, and was really already pretty well rounded by the time he left Denver. Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, FiddySicks said: I’ll say this about Cutler. I don’t think he was nearly as physically gifted as Fields is, and he’s a bit of a weird situation because he sort of just fell into Chicago’s lap. He wasn’t a guy they drafted and developed, and was really already pretty well rounded by the time he left Denver. You're talking about the 85th greatest Chicago Bear of all time there. Jay Cutler would have been better suited to one of those three and D guys in the NBA that get paid $120 million with very limited expectations. Seems like that's what he was best suited for; making money while doing the bare minimum. I don't blame him either! Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Being "physically gifted" doesn't make you a better QB than guys who can actually win games. If you can't put up touchdowns and lead your team to the playoffs then you aren't a good QB. Jamarcus Russell being able to toss the ball 90 yards and truck linebackers doesn't make him a better QB than Jay Schroeder. 5 hours ago, Red Comet said: Yeah, except the last good QB to play for that franchise was Joe Thesimann rather than Sid Luckman. Plus, Washington is where everything goes to die, not just quarterbacks. Quarterbacks, running backs, defensive linemen, offensive linemen, fiscal restraint, common sense, etc. Rypien was above average for the Skins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, ManillaToad said: Rypien was above average for the Skins That's debatable. Not sure if you watched his whole career, but I'd say solidly average, but not above average. His teams were built around the counter, and he had Art Monk, and a very solid defense. And when he was out, they didn't miss a beat. I'd probably put him a little below Simms, who's career is debatable as well. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Vet would know considering he saw and still does see Washington play at least twice a year. And by good, I should've clarified to mean consistently good for that team over at least 5 seasons or so. Otherwise, I'd have to say their last decent quarterback was Alex Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Red Comet said: Vet would know considering he saw and still does see Washington play at least twice a year. And by good, I should've clarified to mean consistently good for that team over at least 5 seasons or so. Otherwise, I'd have to say their last decent quarterback was Alex Smith. Man, that’s grim. Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Cutler was solid when he overlapped with Lovie Smith; Lovie's greatest strength as a coach always being that his players tried hard for him and never let themselves be fully out of it. (That and having three eventual HoFers on defense + Devin Hester.) After that, though... I'm not sure the Bears have ever truly recovered from Marc Trestman and Phil Emery. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 1:00 PM EST/12:00 PM CST CBS Games Red: Baltimore at New York Giants Blue: New England at Cleveland Green: Cincinnati at New Orleans Yellow: Jacksonville at Indianapolis 4:00 PM EST/3:00 PM CST CBS Game Buffalo at Kansas City (nationally televised) 1:00 PM EST/12:00 PM CST Fox Games Red: Tampa Bay at Pittsburgh Blue: New York Jets at Green Bay Yellow: San Francisco at Atlanta Orange: Minnesota at Miami 4:00 PM EST/3:00 PM CST Fox Games Green: Carolina at Los Angeles Rams Light Blue: Arizona at Seattle Edited October 16, 2022 by Red Comet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Seeing this young Jets team in action, ding dong the Jest is almost dead. They're gonna be a problem in the next few years. That young D lineman they got, it's like what the late 90s Jets would have looked like had they drafted Warren Sapp instead of Kyle Brady. Quote A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Yeah, Tom Brady and the Bucs ain’t winning :censored: this year. 2 Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, FiddySicks said: Yeah, Tom Brady and the Bucs ain’t winning this year. I think Brady needs to be put on Urban Meyer watch. I can't see him playing out a full season to go 9-8. Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJimmy Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 jesus, they really want the Packers to win, huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, JerseyJimmy said: jesus, they really want the Packers to win, huh Right now, it's the usual "we didn't play well enough to win, myself included" from Rodgers, but he's the type who will probably end up snapping and acting like CM Punk did at the AEW All Out Media Scrum if they continue to play poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, JerseyJimmy said: jesus, they really want the Packers to win, huh Not on the Jets watch! Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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