2023 NFL Regular Season Through Super Bowl LVIII

[Cujo]

The Daniel Jones contract continues to look worse and worse.

 

And at 2-7, the Giants are very much in the Caleb Williams running now.

 

[Sport]

22 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

The Panthers would’ve ruined Stroud too. They’re just not good enough to develop a QB properly and are entering a nasty development cycle of blowing through QB talent.

 

And the Texans are a better landing spot for a rookie QB?

 

I argued that Stroud and Young were neck and neck as draft prospects go and normally I'm not one to focus on size, especially as a guy who was undervalued in my own athletic career because of my size, but if two guys are tied then go with the bigger dude. Young looks tiny and limited.

 

If we have any Panthers fans here who've watched him more than me they can rightfully tell me to f*** off and eat s*** if I'm wrong, but do you feel like you scored landing Bryce Young right now? 

[GDAWG]

So what are the current thoughts on Sam Howell?  

[Cujo]

29 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

So what are the current thoughts on Sam Howell?  

 

Just a guy. Which he's always been.

[DG_ThenNowForever]

1 hour ago, Cujo said:

Regardless of the call, Cincy was winning this game. They were on their way to scoring again on the final drive, but just took knees to run out the clock.

 

I don't know how you could say that. Had the Bills been in position for a FG (which they were), they would have entered the half down 21-10, which is different than 21-7. And if the Bills had still scored out of the half, then they're down 21-13, which is down one score instead of two.

 

Eventually the Bills cut it to 24-18. Had it been 24-21, you have a completely different strategy.

 

Anyway, the Bills lost in large part because 1. Dalton Kincaid fumbled when he shouldn't have and 2. they couldn't get a stop at the end.

 

But playing for FGs is different than playing for TDs, and the refs took three possible points off the board. To say nothing of the missed tripping call that also took time off the clock for Buffalo.

 

(And that's to say nothing of the phantom roughing the passer call that ended up in that third first half TD for the Bengals).

 

Great teams can overcome a calvalcade of bad calls, but good teams at least need the game to be called fairly. Last night the key calls went against Buffalo. And they're not good enough to overcome that, clearly.

[FiddySicks]

13 hours ago, Unocal said:

This NFL season has been predictable as hell.

 

Cincy, KC, Philly on top.

 

The NFL needs a new scriptwriter

And you need to find a new place to post all this garbage. 

[infrared41]

1 hour ago, Sport said:

 

And the Texans are a better landing spot for a rookie QB?

 

I argued that Stroud and Young were neck and neck as draft prospects go and normally I'm not one to focus on size, especially as a guy who was undervalued in my own athletic career because of my size, but if two guys are tied then go with the bigger dude. Young looks tiny and limited.

 

If we have any Panthers fans here who've watched him more than me they can rightfully tell me to f*** off and eat s*** if I'm wrong, but do you feel like you scored landing Bryce Young right now? 

 

The first time I saw Young in mini-camp, he looked so small that I thought NFL Network was doing a story on some kid who won a contest and the Panthers put him in a uniform and let him run a few plays or something. I'm dead serious, I honestly couldn't believe the little guy I saw in that video was the #1 overall pick in the draft. Maybe he'll turn into a good NFL QB, but I'm not betting any of my money on it.

[infrared41]

49 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

So what are the current thoughts on Sam Howell?  

 

His name sounds like someone who is running for office in South Carolina?

[Cujo]

8 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

13 hours ago, Unocal said:

This NFL season has been predictable as hell.

 

Cincy, KC, Philly on top.

 

The NFL needs a new scriptwriter

And you need to find a new place to post all this garbage. 

 

This Unocal guy drops more attention grabbing clown posts than DirtyCurty -- And that dude had some terrible takes!

[infrared41]

Just now, Cujo said:

 

This Unocal guy drops more attention grabbing clown posts than DirtyCurty -- And that dude had some terrible takes!

 

Still does.

[Sport]

44 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

 

I don't know how you could say that. Had the Bills been in position for a FG (which they were), they would have entered the half down 21-10, which is different than 21-7. And if the Bills had still scored out of the half, then they're down 21-13, which is down one score instead of two.

 

Eventually the Bills cut it to 24-18. Had it been 24-21, you have a completely different strategy.

 

Anyway, the Bills lost in large part because 1. Dalton Kincaid fumbled when he shouldn't have and 2. they couldn't get a stop at the end.

 

But playing for FGs is different than playing for TDs, and the refs took three possible points off the board. To say nothing of the missed tripping call that also took time off the clock for Buffalo.

 

(And that's to say nothing of the phantom roughing the passer call that ended up in that third first half TD for the Bengals).

 

Great teams can overcome a calvalcade of bad calls, but good teams at least need the game to be called fairly. Last night the key calls went against Buffalo. And they're not good enough to overcome that, clearly.

 

Can I offer a Bengals fan's perspective? Trying my best not to sound like a Steelers fan sore winner - I could say that the Bengals left points on the field through their own shooting themselves in the foot. At least ten by my count. I never felt out of control that entire game and I don't get that feeling often as a Bengals fan. The intentional grounding call was goofy, but by the letter of the law according to the NBC ref and I'll defer to his expertise. Bills botched a play and got hurt by it - That's the Bills' fault. 

 

I wouldn't use the word "cavalcade". There were like two and the refs missed the call when Burrow was facemasked and his head was dribbled off the turf like a basketball so the roughing the passer penalties are a wash. I remember a first down being wiped out by an iffy hold too. That doesn't bother me too much. One of those "you could call holding on every play" holds. The field goal they took off the board with the intentional grounding would've been a midfielder - Not exactly a gimme that you can bank as a "woulda made". We got a lot of ifs and thens here with the Bills. 

 

The Bills cut it to 24-18 with 3 and a half minutes left because the Bengals were managing the game at that point, letting them have all the underneath stuff to keep the ball in play and the clock rolling. At one point they had 3 backup d-lineman in late in that possession to load manage the starters for a final possession. From my point of view it was less close than the score would indicate and the team who won the turnovers, yardage, first downs (30-17), time of possession, and field position battle won the game. I don't think anyone could sit here and make the case that the wrong team won the game and if the tripping call had been applied I don't think the result is different. 

 

Oh and McDermott shouldn't have burned a timeout on what was clearly an incomplete pass. 

[BrySmalls]

2 hours ago, Cujo said:

The Daniel Jones contract continues to look worse and worse.

 

And at 2-7, the Giants are very much in the Caleb Williams running now.

 

 

Caleb Williams won't make a difference if there's no O-Line protecting him. Oh, and he wouldn't become a part-time owner either.

[infrared41]

1 hour ago, Sport said:

Can I offer a Bengals fan's perspective?

 

Can I offer the perspective of someone who isn't a fan of either team?

 

Ten minutes into the game, it was obvious that the Bills weren't going to win. The final score made that game look a lot closer than it ever really was. The Bengals were never in any real danger of letting it get away from them.

[Sport]

38 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

The first time I saw Young in mini-camp, he looked so small that I thought NFL Network was doing a story on some kid who won a contest and the Panthers put him in a uniform and let him run a few plays or something. I'm dead serious, I honestly couldn't believe the little guy I saw in that video was the #1 overall pick in the draft. Maybe he'll turn into a good NFL QB, but I'm not betting any of my money on it.

 

It was jarring the first time I saw him on an NFL field because when he was with Alabama I never noticed his size. I don't like to say size matters as a 5'10" guy myself, but in the NFL it kind of matters.  

[infrared41]

1 minute ago, Sport said:

 

It was jarring the first time I saw him on an NFL field because when he was with Alabama I never noticed his size. I don't like to say size matters as a 5'10" guy myself, but in the NFL it kind of matters.  

 

His height didn't shock me as much as how frail he looked did. Dude looked like he might have weighed all of 160 pounds.

[GDAWG]

So what is the outrage as to why the Bengals are winning?  It's only been 2.5 years (this season isn't over with), yet it sounds like that they have been winning for a decade.  Do we not remember the 5 straight losing seasons the Bengals had before then?  The last three years under Marvin Lewis and the first two under Zac Taylor?  They used to be known as the Bungles, but that isn't the case anymore.  They only won 6 games in the first two years under Zac Taylor and made a surprising run in 2021 and proved last season they were not a one year wonder from the standpoint of "they surprised everyone by making the playoffs and then the next year they went back to sucking again" like the Giants are.  Instead in 2022, they went 12-4 (game vs. Bills was postponed after Damar Hamlin) and made it back to the AFC Championship Game.  The Bengals winning like this is good for the NFL, because then it's not just Kansas City in the AFC all of the time.  

[SFGiants58]

Unocal is a Bills fan, as his name used to be SabresRule. That’s why he got grumpy.

[infrared41]

1 hour ago, GDAWG said:

So what is the outrage as to why the Bengals are winning?

 

If we throw out the scores from our resident East German judge, there is no outrage over the Bengals being good. Hell, I'm a Browns fan and I don't have problem with the Bengals winning. The fact that they can't beat the Browns probably helps with that, but the point remains.

[DG_ThenNowForever]

6 hours ago, infrared41 said:

 

Can I offer the perspective of someone who isn't a fan of either team?

 

Ten minutes into the game, it was obvious that the Bills weren't going to win. The final score made that game look a lot closer than it ever really was. The Bengals were never in any real danger of letting it get away from them.

 

Buffalo is a good bad team. And I'm not even sure about that.

 

It wouldn't be the worst thing for them to flame out, get a good draft pick, and come back to play a third place schedule.

 

Getting Cincinnati, KC and Philly all on the road is wild. This isn't their year.

[JerseyJimmy]

21 hours ago, Unocal said:

This NFL season has been predictable as hell.

 

Cincy, KC, Philly on top.

 

The NFL needs a new scriptwriter

 

I am going to laugh directly in your face when Rodgers miraculously recovers and the Jets win the Super Bowl by sheer goddamn accident.

 

but then you'd probably complain about that, too.