JH42XCC Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 NBAEASTERN CONFERENCEEast--Boston, New York, Washington, PhiladelphiaNorth--Montreal(expansion), Toronto, Detroit, ClevelandMidwest--Indiana, Chicago, Memphis, New OrleansSouth--Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, MiamiWESTERN CONFERENCEMidwest--St. Louis(expansion), Denver, Minnesota, MilwaukeeSouthwest--Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, PhoenixWest--Seattle, Utah, Portland, Las Vegas(New Jersey)California--Los Angeles, San Diego Clippers, Golden State, SacramentoI picked the Nets to go to Las Vegas because theyre going to move anyway and New York already has a team and doesnt need another at the expense of a market like Las Vegas. St. Louis is fully capable of supporting an NBA team. I mentioned earlier that I am biased toward Montreal so please no foul comments about that. Orlando could also be moved west if they decide to. in that situation, move the nets in the East and bump the Wiz down to the south. but yeah there you go. if you wish to comment or make a suggestion, please do so. but please be civil about it. IMO, I don't think that idea looks good, since the New Jersey Nets are moving to Brooklyn. So it doesn't make sense moving the Nets to Vegas when they have a new arena planned in Brooklyn and Vegas is a city considered for an expansion franchise. Also, Canada doesn't need another NBA team. Here's a better idea:NBAEASTERN CONFERENCEAtlantic--Boston, New York, Brooklyn, PhiladelphiaNortheast--Washington, Toronto, Detroit, ClevelandCentral--Indiana, Chicago, Memphis, MilwaukeeSouth--Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, MiamiWESTERN CONFERENCEMidwest--St. Louis(expansion), Denver, Minnesota, New OrleansSouthwest--Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, PhoenixNorthwest--Seattle, Utah, Portland, Las Vegas(expansion)California--Los Angeles, San Diego Clippers, Golden State, Sacramento Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac_kl Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 For the NHL you gotta bring back the 3 lost classics of Quebec, Winnipeg and Hartford.Im sorry but enough of this southern expansion garbage. ITs killing the game. I remember 2 years ago when the Habs were in the second round against Tampa. And on our local radio station out here, it was only $10 more expensive to just fly to Tampa and go see the game there, then to stay here in Montreal and try and get tickets.With this format we can have both the Canadian content, and we can add 2 Southern expansion teams,1 for east 1 for west, Maybe Houston for the west.Eastern ConferenceNorthCanadiens, Maple Leafs, Senators, Nordiques(Panthers)Empire StateSabres, Rangers, Devils, IslandersAtlanticFlyers, Penguins, Bruins, Whalers(Hurricanes)SouthLightning, Thrashers, Capitals, ?Western ConferenceCentralRed Wings, Blackhawks, Blue Jackets, Jets(Predators)MountainFlames, Oilers, Wild, Avalanche,WestCanucks, Kings, Sharks, DucksSouthStars, Blues, Coyotes, Houston(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshawaggie Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I just have to ask: is this xl8r/keith/anichanger?This thread sure smells like him. Hehe, if it is xlr8r/keith/anichanger/all of his other ridiculous personas shouldn't there be the "Move the Packers to Milwaukee and call them the Milwaukee Mustangs?" I've been lurking on these boards in all their forms for what about 5 years and I still can't get over that guy. yes, the Milwaukee Mustangs is a must in all of his threads @josh_j12 CFA- Fargo Bobcats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrbaseball Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 NFLAFC-East--New York, Buffalo, Miami, New EnglandNorth--Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, BaltimoreSouth--Indianapolis, Houston, Tennessee, JacksonvilleWest--San Diego, Kansas City, Oakland, Denver I know you said the geography is not perfect. Maybe I can tweak it up a little.In the AFC, I would switch Buffalo and Baltimore.Buffalo is along the Great Lakes, as is Cleveland. And Buffalo is a lot closer to Pittsburgh than it is to any of the current division rivals.Meanwhile, Baltimore is practically along the Atlantic coast, just like New York, Miami and New England.Just my two pfennigs worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaftDu Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 NFLAFC-East--New York, Buffalo, Miami, New EnglandNorth--Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, BaltimoreSouth--Indianapolis, Houston, Tennessee, JacksonvilleWest--San Diego, Kansas City, Oakland, Denver I know you said the geography is not perfect. Maybe I can tweak it up a little.In the AFC, I would switch Buffalo and Baltimore.Buffalo is along the Great Lakes, as is Cleveland. And Buffalo is a lot closer to Pittsburgh than it is to any of the current division rivals.Meanwhile, Baltimore is practically along the Atlantic coast, just like New York, Miami and New England.Just my two pfennigs worth. the only problem with moving the Bills to the north is the same reason why you don't move Dallas to the NFC south. Tradition I am afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzcut Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 First off, could we move this thread to Sports In General?Secondly, the NFL is fine as it is(except I'd move the Chargers to LA).Thirdly, I'd do the NBA like this:Eastern ConferenceNortheast: Boston, Brooklyn(New Jersey), New York, TorontoMideast: Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia, WashingtonSouth: Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, New OrleansCentral: Chicago, Indiana, Louisville(expansion), MilwaukeeWestern ConferenceCalifornia: Golden State, Las Vegas(Sacramento), Los Angeles Lakers, San Diego(Los Angeles Clippers)Northwest: Denver, Portland, Seattle, UtahSouthwest: Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, San AntonioHeartland: Kansas City(Orlando), Memphis, Minnesota, St. Louis(expansion)Fourthly, I think the NHL will contract teams before expanding again. If they do expand though, it'll probably look like this:Eastern ConferenceNortheast: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec(Florida), TorontoAtlantic: Boston, New Jersey, New York Islanders, New York RangersCentral: Buffalo, Columbus, Philadelphia, PittsburghSouthern: Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, WashingtonWestern ConferenceCanadian: Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg(Nashville)Midwest: Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, St. LouisPacific: Anaheim, Los Angeles, Portland(expansion), San JoseSouthwest: Colorado, Dallas, Houston(expansion), Phoenix The CCSLC's resident Geelong Cats fan. Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends. Sounds like something from a Rocky & Bullwinkle story arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinGamblinTiger Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Yes- ATL will gladly send the Hawks back to St. Louis free of charge..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogbarks55 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Hey, fearthelion03, the Hawks came to Atlanta FROM St. Louis in the late '60s, am I to assume you'd like to give them back?And I think that the NHL should contract to 24 teams with two 12-team conferences. And move back to Winnipeg and Quebec City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Name Here Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I'll leave the NHL with thirty teams. I'll move Ottawa to the new arena being built in Kansas City and the Oilers to Houston. The latter wouldn't even have (or want) to change their name. And Canada can suck it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youcan'tseeme Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Here's my NHLEastern ConfrenceNortheast- Hamilton, Montreal,Ottawa,Quebec City,TorontoAtlantic- Boston,Long Island,New York,Hartford,BuffaloMid-East- Indianapolis,Washington,Baltimore,Columbus,PhildelphiaWestern ConfrenceNorthwest-Vancouver,Edmonton,Calgary,Winnipeg,SeattlePacific- Los Angeles,Las Vegas,Portland,Dallas,PhoenixCentral-Detroit,Chicago,St.Louis,Kansas City,Oklahoma CityDon't know who move's where but it's 30 teams and at least 10 teams betyter then now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesL Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 NFLAFC-East--New York, Buffalo, Miami, New EnglandNorth--Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, BaltimoreSouth--Indianapolis, Houston, Tennessee, JacksonvilleWest--San Diego, Kansas City, Oakland, DenverNFC-East--New York, Dallas, Washington, PhiladelphiaNorth--Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, DetroitSouth--St. Louis, Carolina, Atlanta, Tampa BayWest--Los Angeles(New Orleans), San Francisco, Arizona, SeattleNew Orleans, San Diego, or Indianapolis are all possibilities to go to L.A. but New Orleans is the MOST likely based soley on their stadium situation so relax.NHLEASTERN CONFERENCENorth--Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, BuffaloEast--New York I., New York R., Boston, New JerseyCentral--Pittsburgh, Columbus, Washington, PhiladelphiaSouth--Atlanta, Florida, Tampa Bay, CarolinaWESTERN CONFERENCEMidwest--St. Louis, Chicago, Nashville, DetroitNorth--Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton, Seattle(expansion)Central--Dallas, Minnesota, Colorado, Las Vegas(expansion)West--Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose, Phoenixi realize i may be breaking up rivalries in the conferences. that would be solved by scheduling to accomodate them.NBAEASTERN CONFERENCEEast--Boston, New York, Washington, PhiladelphiaNorth--Montreal(expansion), Toronto, Detroit, ClevelandMidwest--Indiana, Chicago, Memphis, New OrleansSouth--Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, MiamiWESTERN CONFERENCEMidwest--St. Louis(expansion), Denver, Minnesota, MilwaukeeSouthwest--Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, PhoenixWest--Seattle, Utah, Portland, Las Vegas(New Jersey)California--Los Angeles, San Diego Clippers, Golden State, Sacramento The NFL looks the same, although Indianapolis is out of the running for relocation, since they struck a deal for a new stadium. So that leaves San Diego and New Orleans, with the Big Easy being the front runner. So St. Louis being in the South makes sense.The NHL, here's what I would do:EASTERN CONFERENCENortheast--Boston, CANADIENS, Ottawa, QUEBEC (formerly Florida)Atlantic--New Jersey, NY Isles, NY Rangers, Philadelphia Southeast--Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, WashingtonCentral--Buffalo, Columbus, Pittsburgh, TorontoWESTERN CONFERENCEMidwest--Chicago, Colorado, Detroit, MinnesotaSouthwest-Dallas, Houston (transferred from AHL), Kansas City (formerly Nashville), St. LouisNorthwest--Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg (expansion)Pacific--Anaheim, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San JoseFor NBA, for me a Montreal team sounds tempting! And I thank you for creating the idea! Here's what I would do this:NBAEASTERN CONFERENCENortheast--MONTREAL (Formerly LA Clippers), Boston, Cleveland, TorontoAtlantic--Brooklyn Nets, New York, Philadelphia, WashingtonMidwest--Chicago, Detroit, Indiana, MilwaukeeSouth--Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, OrlandoWESTERN CONFERENCEMidwest--Kansas City (expansion), Memphis, Minnesota, St. Louis (expansion)Southwest--Dallas, Houston, New Orleans, San AntonioNorthwest--Denver, Portland, Seattle, UtahPacific--Golden State, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Sacramento Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshawaggie Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Here's my NHLEastern ConfrenceNortheast- Hamilton, Montreal,Ottawa,Quebec City,TorontoAtlantic- Boston,Long Island,New York,Hartford,BuffaloMid-East- Indianapolis,Washington,Baltimore,Columbus,PhildelphiaWestern ConfrenceNorthwest-Vancouver,Edmonton,Calgary,Winnipeg,SeattlePacific- Los Angeles,Las Vegas,Portland,Dallas,PhoenixCentral-Detroit,Chicago,St.Louis,Kansas City,Oklahoma CityDon't know who move's where but it's 30 teams and at least 10 teams betyter then now. no Minnestoa in the NHL again?? thats... laughable. @josh_j12 CFA- Fargo Bobcats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I'll leave the NHL with thirty teams. I'll move Ottawa to the new arena being built in Kansas City and the Oilers to Houston. The latter wouldn't even have (or want) to change their name. And Canada can suck it.Got a rationale for moving two of the best-run franchises in the NHL, both of which have loyal, knowledgeable fans and excellent community support, dumbass? My Realignment Plan - Your Name Here moves to Fanhome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan39 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 And Canada can suck itconsidering how many canadiens are on this board, and the admin is candiean, you might want to watch the canada bashing. and as far as im concerned canada has been the best neighbors a country can have. hell they were with us on d day if i remeber history class well enough, and and thats good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogbarks55 Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Your name here- You should be ashamed of yourself. The Canadians HAVE been our best neighbor of all. They tried to help with our hostages in Iran in '79. They built the robotic arm for the space shuttle. They landed on the Normandy beaches with us. They were with us in Korea. So don't you EVER tell them to "suck it" again! And whether you or Gary Bettman or Bob Goodenow like it, HOCKEY IS THEIR GAME! I think that Canada ought to tell some American "hockey markets" to "suck it" and return the Jets and Nords back north of the border. Was "The Ugly American" your autobiography? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antediluvious Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 First off, could we move this thread to Sports In General?Secondly, the NFL is fine as it is(except I'd move the Chargers to LA).Thirdly, I'd do the NBA like this:Eastern ConferenceNortheast: Boston, Brooklyn(New Jersey), New York, TorontoMideast: Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia, WashingtonSouth: Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, New OrleansCentral: Chicago, Indiana, Louisville(expansion), MilwaukeeWestern ConferenceCalifornia: Golden State, Las Vegas(Sacramento), Los Angeles Lakers, San Diego(Los Angeles Clippers)Northwest: Denver, Portland, Seattle, UtahSouthwest: Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, San AntonioHeartland: Kansas City(Orlando), Memphis, Minnesota, St. Louis(expansion)Fourthly, I think the NHL will contract teams before expanding again. If they do expand though, it'll probably look like this:Eastern ConferenceNortheast: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec(Florida), TorontoAtlantic: Boston, New Jersey, New York Islanders, New York RangersCentral: Buffalo, Columbus, Philadelphia, PittsburghSouthern: Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, WashingtonWestern ConferenceCanadian: Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg(Nashville)Midwest: Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, St. LouisPacific: Anaheim, Los Angeles, Portland(expansion), San JoseSouthwest: Colorado, Dallas, Houston(expansion), Phoenix So you want to take away San Diego's beloved football team but give them a basketball team that already skipped town once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 And Canada can suck it. go jump off a bridge. see? canadians dont hate americans, just jackasses like this guy.G-d save Canada, G-d save the Queen. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooter Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Here's my NHLEastern ConfrenceNortheast- Hamilton, Montreal,Ottawa,Quebec City,TorontoAtlantic- Boston,Long Island,New York,Hartford,BuffaloMid-East- Indianapolis,Washington,Baltimore,Columbus,PhildelphiaWestern ConfrenceNorthwest-Vancouver,Edmonton,Calgary,Winnipeg,SeattlePacific- Los Angeles,Las Vegas,Portland,Dallas,PhoenixCentral-Detroit,Chicago,St.Louis,Kansas City,Oklahoma CityDon't know who move's where but it's 30 teams and at least 10 teams betyter then now. no Minnestoa in the NHL again?? thats... laughable. He also left out the defending Stanley Cup Champion Tampa Bay Lightning and put a team in Baltimore, that couldn't support an AHL team and being too close to the Caps territory, and in Kansas City where the NHL has failed before and in Indianapolis who hasn't had major league hockey since Gretzky was a rookie.Might as well put one in Cincinnati, who actually lost out on an NHL team, the Kansas City Scouts, when the guys bidding for a team decided to go with a WHA team instead. The NHL expanded to KC and Washington instead. Then KC moved to Colorado then to New Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Name Here Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 There are some people, on this board and elsewhere, who want to blame all of the NHL's current difficulties on the southern clubs. It's really insufferable. Just once, I'd like there to be a little equal time in the blame game. Every time someone on this board mentions contraction or relocation, it's inevitable that there will be a dozen or so proposals to eliminate as much as every southern NHL team (except the Kings, for some reason). If I have to be the only person who proposes that the League cut off some of its dead, pasty, Canadian flesh, then so be it. How about just once, everyone gives it a rest with the death warrants for southern hockey? Southerners already have to answer for some much: the Civil War, segregation, the Dixie Chicks. But this time, they're getting a bad rap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclopsis Joe Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 I'm from atlanta, so we all would be happy to offer the Hawks to whatever city would like a "NBA" team.... What it will cost you: nothing, heck I'll pay someone if they'll take that team Agreed. We don't want the Hawks. I don't speak for democrats, democrats don't speak for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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