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Why does it seem as though every new college football coach is a "good hire" and every new NFL hire is ZOMG turrble up in here?

On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said:

Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech.

 

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I'm not nearly as down on the Bears hiring of Trestman as it seems most of you are.

He had eight years to not not be in the NFL and it didn't happen. In a league that rewrites the rulebook every season, that's an eternity. In the time since he has had a job in the league, he's been coaching goofy giant-field-three-down football, college football, or not coaching any football at all. I don't ask for my NFL head coach to have been an NFL head coach, but at least maybe try having been in the league at some point during or after the last two presidential terms.

He's gonna run a west coast offense. OH GREAT DON'T GET TOO LONELY UP IN THE VANGUARD

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Yeah, I don't see how Penn State got off "easy"

For the amount of hell Sandusky put those kids through, the whole university system knowing about it but keeping silence, and of their idiotic fan base saying Sandusky and Paterno deserve no blame, Penn State should have gotten a permanent death penalty and immediate stripping of all athletic funds to the university. The whole wiping of 14 years worth of games and their scholarship losses is in my book a "slap in the wrist."

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I'm not nearly as down on the Bears hiring of Trestman as it seems most of you are.

He had eight years to not not be in the NFL and it didn't happen. In a league that rewrites the rulebook every season, that's an eternity. In the time since he has had a job in the league, he's been coaching goofy giant-field-three-down football, college football, or not coaching any football at all. I don't ask for my NFL head coach to have been an NFL head coach, but at least maybe try having been in the league at some point during or after the last two presidential terms.

He's gonna run a west coast offense. OH GREAT DON'T GET TOO LONELY UP IN THE VANGUARD

Historically the Bears don't either since they have hired 14 coaches.

The only times they had a coach with previous NFL head coaching experience.were when Halas coach the team on his second, third, and fourth tenures.

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Yeah, I don't see how Penn State got off "easy"

For the amount of hell Sandusky put those kids through, the whole university system knowing about it but keeping silence, and of their idiotic fan base saying Sandusky and Paterno deserve no blame, Penn State should have gotten a permanent death penalty and immediate stripping of all athletic funds to the university. The whole wiping of 14 years worth of games and their scholarship losses is in my book a "slap in the wrist."

That wasn't going to happen for money reasons/the NCAA really doesn't want to kill itself. But, compared to what Penn State got, USC is the team that got the "slap on the wrist."

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Yeah, I don't see how Penn State got off "easy"

For the amount of hell Sandusky put those kids through, the whole university system knowing about it but keeping silence, and of their idiotic fan base saying Sandusky and Paterno deserve no blame, Penn State should have gotten a permanent death penalty and immediate stripping of all athletic funds to the university. The whole wiping of 14 years worth of games and their scholarship losses is in my book a "slap in the wrist."

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I'm not nearly as down on the Bears hiring of Trestman as it seems most of you are.

He had eight years to not not be in the NFL and it didn't happen. In a league that rewrites the rulebook every season, that's an eternity. In the time since he has had a job in the league, he's been coaching goofy giant-field-three-down football, college football, or not coaching any football at all. I don't ask for my NFL head coach to have been an NFL head coach, but at least maybe try having been in the league at some point during or after the last two presidential terms.

He's gonna run a west coast offense. OH GREAT DON'T GET TOO LONELY UP IN THE VANGUARD

Historically the Bears don't either since they have hired 14 coaches.

The only times they had a coach with previous NFL head coaching experience.were when Halas coach the team on his second, third, and fourth tenures.

I've read nothing but praise from former quarterbacks who've worked Trestman and for the most part the primary stain on Trestman's style is that he overcomplicates the offense. That DOES make my Martz-o-Meter go off like crazy, but I'm not adverse to taking the ride. His positional hires have been impressive so far, and keeping Marinelli is a good move. I don't think that Emery would've hired him if he wasn't the best of all those candidates (which admittedly may not be saying a lot). Ye of little faith.

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His positional hires have been impressive so far

Didn't he hire an interim head coach who went 0-4 and an offensive coordinator from a mid-major?

and keeping Marinelli is a good move.

He isn't staying

I don't think that Emery would've hired him if he wasn't the best of all those candidates (which admittedly may not be saying a lot).

But that's a pretty bald-faced appeal to authority, isn't it? You'd have to say that about anyone he ultimately hired.

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His positional hires have been impressive so far

Didn't he hire an interim head coach who went 0-4 and an offensive coordinator from a mid-major?

and keeping Marinelli is a good move.

He isn't staying

I don't think that Emery would've hired him if he wasn't the best of all those candidates (which admittedly may not be saying a lot).

But that's a pretty bald-faced appeal to authority, isn't it? You'd have to say that about anyone he ultimately hired.

Re: Marinelli - I'm just waking up from an afternoon nap and haven't gotten caught up on the news.

Re: Coordinators - That's about the bleakest possible way to look at this, which seems to be your prerogative. Don't let me get in the way.

Re: Emery - See previous response.

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I'm not nearly as down on the Bears hiring of Trestman as it seems most of you are.

He had eight years to not not be in the NFL and it didn't happen. In a league that rewrites the rulebook every season, that's an eternity. In the time since he has had a job in the league, he's been coaching goofy giant-field-three-down football, college football, or not coaching any football at all. I don't ask for my NFL head coach to have been an NFL head coach, but at least maybe try having been in the league at some point during or after the last two presidential terms.

He's gonna run a west coast offense. OH GREAT DON'T GET TOO LONELY UP IN THE VANGUARD

I know this is a bit using the exception to make a new rule, but Dick Vermeil came back to the league and pretty much rewrote the rule book on how to play in the NFL. Not to say Trestman will turn the Bears around, to the extent they need turning around, but its not impossible to return to the NFL and have success even after a long time away.

My guess so far this off season is that none of the coaching hires this off season will do much to change the trajectory of those franchises. I think McCoy in San Diego has the best shot, but otherwise most of these franchises will be rehiring in 3 years I would imagine.

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I think McCoy in San Diego has the best shot, but otherwise most of these franchises will be rehiring in 3 years I would imagine.

Speaking of McCoy, the hire's growing on me. I like that he isn't some ancient retread and proven loser. The fact that Dean hired a young up-and-comer certainly gives me hope that things will be done differently by this regime. Considering what McCoy did in Denver with Quinn and Tebow, maybe Rivers' career can be salvaged after all.

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It's the latest CFB fad: paralyze the Pac-12/west coast teams with bowl bans, championship striplings and death penalties, while going all lenient on the SEC's, Penn State, Ohio State and Miami.

Wut.

Yeah, of those three, only Penn State got off easy. I don't get the others.

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