Gothamite Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I'm sick and tired of hearing this argument. It always comes up every year.I'm afraid that it's going to keep coming up every year so long as the franchise uses a patently racist depiction of an Indian. Ironic - Bill Veeck did a whole lot of good in his life, especially in the field of civil rights, but this logo doesn't do his legacy many favors. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappital92 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I guess this cap screams 1970s, but I always liked it and would like to see it make a comeback.Great hat. Wish they had used that instead when they brought back the C. But I have a sentimental attachment to it: my Legion ball team wore that hat, so I associate it with that.I too, love that hat and the jerseys that went with it. Not the pants though. http://www.wizardsxtra.com Is it the shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJR. Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 So we got a P, NY, B, SD......lots of others.........now another C ......just lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 So we got a P, NY, B, SD......lots of others.........now another C ......just lame Hey look tomtucker's back... sorta. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 So we got a P, NY, B, SD......lots of others.........now another C ......just lame What are you taking about? The Yankees and Mets have retained their primary logos. As have the Red Sox - can't think who else you're referring to with the "B". The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyAnna Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I'm from Cleveland and I get the whole debate.Cleveland.com talked to one of the Indians advisor and they said that Chief Wahoo is still the primary. They did state that both logos will be used the same and also saying that the way MLB uses logos, they her to adjust. I wish I could share the article, but I'm using my phone to write this.I'm sick and tired of hearing this argument. It always comes up every year. I felt that Chief Wahoo and the block C are good logos and people in Cleveland like Wahoo because of the tradition. The Indians won't change unless they have to..kind of like North Dakota Fighting Sioux case.I think it is smart for them to keep both to keep multiple fans happy. I like the indian logo, but I think that "C" is incredibly boring and doesn't match the jersey script. The Pike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthers_2012 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Just read that the block C was used more this year because of MLB media guidelines. Obviously, the MLB doesn't want the Chief, but here on Cleveland, we want him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJR. Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So we got a P, NY, B, SD......lots of others.........now another C ......just lame Hey look tomtucker's back... sorta.No, he is my dad..........I am little tom jr, ........i am hoping my uncle will join as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Then, frankly, it's probably good that it isn't up to Cleveland. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJR. Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So we got a P, NY, B, SD......lots of others.........now another C ......just lame What are you taking about? The Yankees and Mets have retained their primary logos. As have the Red Sox - can't think who else you're referring to with the "B".talking about caps of coursecleveland was one of the few that had a "real" logo on the caps........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So we got a P, NY, B, SD......lots of others.........now another C ......just lame Hey look tomtucker's back... sorta.No, he is my dad..........I am little tom jr, ........i am hoping my uncle will join as well. Can this count as an admission of trying to circumnavigate a ban? PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 "That's because you don't have a bottom, son." "AW!!!" ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJR. Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So we got a P, NY, B, SD......lots of others.........now another C ......just lame Hey look tomtucker's back... sorta.No, he is my dad..........I am little tom jr, ........i am hoping my uncle will join as well. Can this count as an admission of trying to circumnavigate a ban?jesus............................ if the forum members want me to leave forever, just let me know here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJR. Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 "That's because you don't have a bottom, son.""AW!!!"this means what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So we got a P, NY, B, SD......lots of others.........now another C ......just lame What are you taking about? The Yankees and Mets have retained their primary logos. As have the Red Sox - can't think who else you're referring to with the "B".talking about caps of coursecleveland was one of the few that had a "real" logo on the caps........Within the established aesthetic of MLB, monograms just seem more professional. Back in the day when it was more about the city and some teams changed their names on a yearly basis, there wasn't a need to promote logos for the sake of selling shirts and other gear, and the conservative look prevailed. Originally caps with no logos and often just simple piping, then the monograms. Frankly it looks minor league to me when a team has a logo on their caps. The only exception that I can think of in my opinion is Toronto (original and current, not the mess in between), and I'm not sure if that's just because it's a beautiful logo drawn in a very conservative style, or it's just because I'm used to it, or what. Either way, complete racism aside (not that you can ever discount it), it's just not a logo that should represent a top-tier team, and it looks absolutely silly on a cap. That alone is reason to drop it. Factor in how it's nothing more than a racial stereotype, and it's a no brainer. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The Blue Jays have always had a progressive aesthetic, right down to playing on plastic grass. It seems unfair to expect them to conform to our baseball norms. Their money dudn't even got Washington on 'em ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Yeah, the logo fits so well with their split lettering and the original numbers (which I find so superior to their current numbers.) They looked good even with the white cap at home, but once they dropped that ('93 I think) their home and road were as close to perfect as I can give a team.I think there's at least some room for improvement with everything, and nothing is absolutely perfect.Well, almost nothing... "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So we got a P, NY, B, SD......lots of others.........now another C ......just lame Hey look tomtucker's back... sorta.No, he is my dad..........I am little tom jr, ........i am hoping my uncle will join as well. Can this count as an admission of trying to circumnavigate a ban?jesus............................ if the forum members want me to leave forever, just let me know hereHere's a mod, telling you, that since you created one account to get around another one that was suspended for race-baiting, "goodbye". Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Well, he certainly was a poster who was watched. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCheese Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 http://news.sportslogos.net/2013/10/02/new-2014-mlb-bp-jerseys-leaked-split-coloured-designs-revealed/Unless the dodgers have two, they changed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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