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Such a stupid ending to Game 3. If there was runner interference, why in blue hell didn't the 3rd base umpire called it? Why did it had to be the home plate guy calling it? Nice way of provoking injuries for nothing.

The third base ump did call it. On the replay you could see him pointing at the Twister game on third and the home plate ump took it from there.

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What an awesome series. Unfortunate end for Boston, but that's how it goes some times.

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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3rd base umpire did call it.

The third base ump did call it. On the replay you could see him pointing at the Twister game on third and the home plate ump took it from there.

Well in the heat of the moment, the whole bang-bang play at home shouldn't have happened. If there was interference at 3rd, you'd figure the call be there and the players act accordingly. But for the game to end at home plate on such a close play, then ultimately be determined at 3rd base provokes probable injuries at home plate for a judgment call made 90° back.

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The Red Sox have lost two World Series games this year because of throwing errors to 3rd base.

That's the item to chew on here. The ruling was 100% correct. Middlebrooks didn't intend, I believe, but just like a baserunner may not intend to get drilled on the ankle by that sharp as nails groundball/low line drive, they are still out. In this case, that's obstruction, and Craig is entitled to the next base. Just turns out that base was home plate in the 9th inning of a tie game in the World Series. Still the right ruling; glad they got it right.

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3rd base umpire did call it.

The third base ump did call it. On the replay you could see him pointing at the Twister game on third and the home plate ump took it from there.

Well in the heat of the moment, the whole bang-bang play at home shouldn't have happened. If there was interference at 3rd, you'd figure the call be there and the players act accordingly. But for the game to end at home plate on such a close play, then ultimately be determined at 3rd base provokes probable injuries at home plate for a judgment call made 90° back.
In my Little League umping experience, if you call interference, you let the play finish before you make the call.

You want to give the team that was interfered with a chance to do better then what the interference would have given them (the one base)

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3rd base umpire did call it.

The third base ump did call it. On the replay you could see him pointing at the Twister game on third and the home plate ump took it from there.

Well in the heat of the moment, the whole bang-bang play at home shouldn't have happened. If there was interference at 3rd, you'd figure the call be there and the players act accordingly. But for the game to end at home plate on such a close play, then ultimately be determined at 3rd base provokes probable injuries at home plate for a judgment call made 90° back.
In my Little League umping experience, if you call interference, you let the play finish before you make the call.

You want to give the team that was interfered with a chance to do better then what the interference would have given them (the one base)

Well, yeah, but without the interference, Craig scores. With the interference, he was out, so defer to the original decision.

There are other cases just like that in baseball, but I'm suddenly completely forgetting what they are.

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Terrible ending to that game. While I'm not rooting for either team, this game should've gone extra innings. I don't know how blind you have to be to call that safe. That is all.

This play should be this postseason's Atlanta infield fly rule...

What are you talking about? Call what safe?

3rd base umpire did call it.

The third base ump did call it. On the replay you could see him pointing at the Twister game on third and the home plate ump took it from there.

Well in the heat of the moment, the whole bang-bang play at home shouldn't have happened. If there was interference at 3rd, you'd figure the call be there and the players act accordingly. But for the game to end at home plate on such a close play, then ultimately be determined at 3rd base provokes probable injuries at home plate for a judgment call made 90° back.
In my Little League umping experience, if you call interference, you let the play finish before you make the call.

You want to give the team that was interfered with a chance to do better then what the interference would have given them (the one base)

Well, yeah, but without the interference, Craig scores. With the interference, he was out, so defer to the original decision.

There are other cases just like that in baseball, but I'm suddenly completely forgetting what they are.

Even without the INT, I don't know if Craig would have scored with his bum ankle. Would have been very close either way

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Terrible ending to that game. While I'm not rooting for either team, this game should've gone extra innings. I don't know how blind you have to be to call that safe. That is all.

This play should be this postseason's Atlanta infield fly rule...

Huh? The HP ump called the runner safe because of the obstruction call at 3B. It was the right call.

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Terrible ending to that game. While I'm not rooting for either team, this game should've gone extra innings. I don't know how blind you have to be to call that safe. That is all.

This play should be this postseason's Atlanta infield fly rule...

It wasn't a bad call, he was safe because of the interference call on third.

EDIT: I'm in phone so I don't see I'm answering things that already have been answered.

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Upon reviewing the play, you'll notice Joyce makes no signal for obstruction until Middlebrooks shot his legs up. This is very clear. Middlebrooks on the ground was not the mistake - it was Middlebrooks lifting his legs up, causing Craig to trip, that brought about the call.

Right call.

It looks more like he called it after he turned and saw Craig trip over Middlebrooks because he was following the ball before.

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I'll just say this. Despite the fiasco a few years ago, if there's one ump who's judgement I trust over anyone else's, it's Jim Joyce.

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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