GFB Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Just got back from the local establishment... A win is a loss is a win. I'll gladly take it. Into the knockout stage we go for the third time out of the last four World Cups. /progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Had to travel more than any other team, had to play in Manaus, had to play in a downpour, had to play in the group of death, and had to overcome the team that's eliminated them in the last two World Cups. That's a lot to overcome so I'm pretty pleased with getting to the knockout stage for the third time in the last four WC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysox Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Is there any chance the US plays Russia? Korea's the only team in that group that's eliminated.Nope. There's no way they can jump Belgium at this point. @MichaelDanger19 | Dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 America loses, but according to Soccer Logic and this handy-dandy Chart of Things That Occur In Soccer That Somehow Make Losing Viable, things are a-ok. Proceed, American Soccer Fellowship.Some day you'll learn to troll in an entertaining way.It's a group stage; think of it like a league. The NFL, NHL, NBA, and MLB don't eliminate teams when they lose a game during the regular season, right? No, a certain number of teams make the playoffs. In this case, two from each group go into a sixteen-team playoff. This is not some weird soccer logic; it's sports logic, and it's perfectly fine.Thanks for actually explaining something rather than saying cool story bro. I don't/won't watch it enough to grasp it, but the explanation is appreciated. That being said, it's hard for me to comment on something so significant without some snide commentary due to my total lack of respect for the "World's Game." I'll abstain going forward if it would please the masses, which no doubt it would. [/cujo] Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 btw. I'm glad the US made it together with us. After the group stage I really think you have a chance against Belgium. They weren't as strong as aspected. I have to say that this German team is probably going to go far in this competition and I wish you guys the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 btw. I'm glad the US made it together with us. After the group stage I really think you have a chance against Belgium. They weren't as strong as aspected. I have to say that this German team is probably going to go far in this competition and I wish you guys the best of luck. Germany is pretty damn good. The Germans always seem to play with such ease and composure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFB Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 America loses, but according to Soccer Logic and this handy-dandy Chart of Things That Occur In Soccer That Somehow Make Losing Viable, things are a-ok. Proceed, American Soccer Fellowship.Some day you'll learn to troll in an entertaining way.It's a group stage; think of it like a league. The NFL, NHL, NBA, and MLB don't eliminate teams when they lose a game during the regular season, right? No, a certain number of teams make the playoffs. In this case, two from each group go into a sixteen-team playoff. This is not some weird soccer logic; it's sports logic, and it's perfectly fine.Thanks for actually explaining something rather than saying cool story bro. I don't/won't watch it enough to grasp it, but the explanation is appreciated. That being said, it's hard for me to comment on something so significant without some snide commentary due to my total lack of respect for the "World's Game." I'll abstain going forward if it would please the masses, which no doubt it would. [/cujo]Yeah, it's a little wonky with just the order of the things (with the US losing to Germany today and still advancing), but logically, the US deserved to advance. They were (probably) the 2nd best team in the group after beating Ghana 2-1 and then being 30 seconds away from beating Portugal 2-1, so people complaining about the US advancing on a loss doesn't really make much sense because that would be implying either Ghana (who lost to both the US and Portugal) or Portugal (who lost to Germany 4-0 and tied the US at the last second) would have been more deserving to move on -- regardless of today's individual results.It's like the people who were complaining about the Portugal/US game ending in a tie and complaining about how soccer shouldn't allow ties and the should be extra-time/shootout, but look at the NHL... Most (or smart) NHL fans would prefer the World Cup Group Play system of (W/3pts -T/1pts - L/0 pts) to the current overtime/shootout loss setup (W/2pts - OT L/1pts - Reg L/0 pts). But now that the World Cup "regular season" is over and the "playoffs" are here, it's "win-or-go-home" time, where you must win to advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks for actually explaining something rather than saying cool story bro. Hey, sometimes I like to drop some knowledge. The group finished as such: GER 2W - 1D - 0L = 7 pts USA 1W - 1D - 1L = 4 pts POR 1W - 1D - 1L = 4 pts GHA 0W - 1D - 2L = 1 pt The US and Portugal were even on points; the first tiebreaker is goal difference. The US takes that, 0 (4 GF, 4GA) to -3 (4 GF, 7 GA). In the round of 16, the US plays the winners of group H, which will likely be Belgium. It's never easy in the World Cup. Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 It's so bizarre to me that margin of victory somehow impacts the game, wins/losses aside. It all does seem, appropriately enough, very European that there are bizarre circumstances (to an American) that allow moral victories to actually matter. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Most sports leagues have it in a tiebreaker somewhere, though many use head-to-head as the first tiebreaker. In this case, that would have been even, since the US and Portugal tied. Today, the US did what my friends would call "Vikings-ing into the playoffs". Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I do think it's ridiculous that goal differential is the first tiebreaker. Not that head-to-head would have mattered here because we tied Portugal, but head-to-head should be the first tiebreaker. If you beat someone, that makes you more deserving than them to advance. It would have really sucked if we beat Ghana, tied them in group, and Ghana advanced.I'm fine with goal differential being the second tiebreaker (because, really, out of three games, what else could you pull from those games to decide?), but head-to-head should be first. | ANA | LAA | LAR | LAL | ASU | CSULB | USMNT | USWNT | LAFC | OCSC | MAN UTD | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I believe Fifa use goal difference first as apparently it encourages more attacking football and goals to advance to the knock out stage. Thats how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFB Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Who knows what FIFA is thinking most of the time... One player just tried to make a snack out of another player for the third time and he was only suspended for 4 months... and you expect them to set up a flawless point system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbadefense1990 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Just explain it as this:The USA lost the conference final BUT was awarded an at-large bid.How easy is that?I wonder what would be the NHL analogy to Group G... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 The 2011-2012 Florida Panthers. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 How has the Dive-O-Meter been so far, watchers? It seems like every World Cup there's a shotgun-spray of lowlights. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I believe Fifa use goal difference first as apparently it encourages more attacking football and goals to advance to the knock out stage. Thats how I see it.Bingo. Otherwise it'd be get a lead, then pull a Greece. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 That display by Algeria was the worst and most obvious time wasting yet. Wouldn't mind seeing one less African team in future installments of the tournament and one more European team. Sweden superior to all 5 of the sides CAF sent this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbadefense1990 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Last set of knockout matches determined today:G1 vs. H2: Germany vs. AlgeriaH1 vs. G2: Belgium vs. U.S.Onto the playoffs knockouts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 always kind of a bummer when the group stage is over. Most of the tournament has already been played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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