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I actually was somewhat on board with having Dallas as a tortured sports city until I realized that they had the Mavs win in 2010. Sure they've had past success, but my God have their down moments been bad. And they've all been under such a huge microscope. The Rangers losing those back-to-back titles (especially that second one), the Stars being in relocation talks, and Tony Romo all make good cases.

But yeah, the Mavs in 2010 and, to some extent, the Stars in 99 (especially since it was over Buffalo in such heartbreaking fashion) takes them off of the list.

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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I think Cincinnati needs to be higher. I’d put us fourth behind Cleveland, Buffalo, and Kansas City. We had the Big Red Machine, but the people who remember that team dwindles by the day. We won it all in 1990, but since then pretty much nothing has gone right. Here’s our resume (not even counting Super Bowl Losses):

  • We haven't won a playoff matchup since 1995
  • The Bengals haven’t won a single playoff game since 1990
  • The Reds haven’t won a playoff series since 1995. Got swept hard by the Braves in the NLCS.
  • The Reds and Bengals Have lost a collective 10 consecutive playoff matchups (that’s hard to do)
  • In the 47 seasons since the 1990 World Series the Reds and Bengals have only qualified for the postseason 10 times combined
  • First play of the first playoff game in 15 years. Carson Palmer’s knee gets shredded by the worst team in sports. Team never stood a chance after that.
  • Reds won 96 games in 1999, lost one game playoff. Most wins by any team in the wild card era to miss the playoffs
  • Bengals missed the playoffs for 15 straight years
  • Reds went ten years without a winning season.
  • 2012. After not suffering an injury to the five man rotation all season the best pitcher injures himself on his third or fourth pitch of game 1 of the LDS. Reds manage to win the first two games on the road. Blow the series by losing three straight all at home
  • Not on my own personal list, but Kenyon Martin broke his leg in the CUSA tournament and kept a very good UC team from doing anything in the tournament.
  • Mike Brown owns our football team.

Also, don't forget 2009, when the Bearcat football team was one game away from the BCS National Title Game, but Texas beat Nebraska in the Big 12 Title game.

Alabama would have done unspeakably terrible things to Cincinnati in the title game though.

On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said:
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"The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert

POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010

The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy)

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Yeah, but they chose to be the Clippers over staying in Buffalo. That's gotta sting :upside:

Also, they opted to be the Lakers red headed step brother rather than staying in Buffalo. San Diego

Forgot a stop.

On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said:
Today, we are all otaku.

"The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert

POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010

The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy)

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Yeah, but they chose to be the Clippers over staying in Buffalo. That's gotta sting :upside:

Also, they opted to be the Lakers red headed step brother rather than staying in Buffalo. San Diego

Forgot a stop.

That's right I forgot about their time in San Diego.

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I think Cincinnati needs to be higher. I’d put us fourth behind Cleveland, Buffalo, and Kansas City. We had the Big Red Machine, but the people who remember that team dwindles by the day. We won it all in 1990, but since then pretty much nothing has gone right. Here’s our resume (not even counting Super Bowl Losses):

  • We haven't won a playoff matchup since 1995
  • The Bengals haven’t won a single playoff game since 1990
  • The Reds haven’t won a playoff series since 1995. Got swept hard by the Braves in the NLCS.
  • The Reds and Bengals Have lost a collective 10 consecutive playoff matchups (that’s hard to do)
  • In the 47 seasons since the 1990 World Series the Reds and Bengals have only qualified for the postseason 10 times combined
  • First play of the first playoff game in 15 years. Carson Palmer’s knee gets shredded by the worst team in sports. Team never stood a chance after that.
  • Reds won 96 games in 1999, lost one game playoff. Most wins by any team in the wild card era to miss the playoffs
  • Bengals missed the playoffs for 15 straight years
  • Reds went ten years without a winning season.
  • 2012. After not suffering an injury to the five man rotation all season the best pitcher injures himself on his third or fourth pitch of game 1 of the LDS. Reds manage to win the first two games on the road. Blow the series by losing three straight all at home
  • Not on my own personal list, but Kenyon Martin broke his leg in the CUSA tournament and kept a very good UC team from doing anything in the tournament.
  • Mike Brown owns our football team.

Also, don't forget 2009, when the Bearcat football team was one game away from the BCS National Title Game, but Texas beat Nebraska in the Big 12 Title game.

Alabama would have done unspeakably terrible things to Cincinnati in the title game though.

I didn't include it because nobody here laments over the 2009 football team missing their shot. That's not a moment on anybody's list. Hell, it didn't even occur to me.

I guess losing Brian Kelly to Notre Dame and then getting blasted by Tebow and Florida in the Sugar Bowl would count for some people, but I don't think it was that damaging to the city's overall psyche. The Bengals' playoff loss to San Diego stung a lot more people than that UC football team.

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Every market is different. Here, I'd say (and I could be off base) that it's kind of like hockey in that the Union fans are super dedicated and love the team like it's a major-league team, and they have 100% support from 5% of the population. The difference between that and hockey is that while hockey has the same kind of 100% support from it's fans, when the team is winning, there are fringe people who jump on board. I don't think that's the case with the Union.

Hockey may be a bad example here because it's so big, but it's the closest think I could think of.

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Every market is different. Here, I'd say (and I could be off base) that it's kind of like hockey in that the Union fans are super dedicated and love the team like it's a major-league team, and they have 100% support from 5% of the population. The difference between that and hockey is that while hockey has the same kind of 100% support from it's fans, when the team is winning, there are fringe people who jump on board. I don't think that's the case with the Union.

Hockey may be a bad example here because it's so big, but it's the closest think I could think of.

I completely agree with your post. There are bandwagon or Fairweather Flyers fans but not the same with the Union.

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MLS is probably on a tier with AAA baseball and the AHL. Family entertainment above indy-league tomfoolery, but it's not the best of the best.

5 years ago I'd have agreed. Now several MLS teams have joined that have completely eschewed the "family entertainment" moniker and are more general sport now along with the Big 5 (SEA, PDX, YVR, and Kansas City all come to mind in that category). It's not the soccer mom league it used to be.

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Yeah, but they chose to be the Clippers over staying in Buffalo. That's gotta sting :upside:

Also, they opted to be the Lakers red headed step brother rather than staying in Buffalo. San Diego

Forgot a stop.

That's right I forgot about their time in San Diego.

Everyone forgets about San Diego. Yet another reason it's such a tortured city for those that are here, people don't even have the decency to dislike us. Remember San Diego has lost 3 basketball teams from the NBA/ABA (Clippers, Sails, Rockets) in addition to never having won a top level championship other than the long forgotten AFL title.

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Cleveland's the undisputed champion of suffering/futility, but Buffalo's got a good case for the number two spot. They have two teams among the Big Four, the Bills and Sabres. The Bills went to four straight Super Bowls and lost all of them (including a heart breaker) and the Sabres have made it one Stanley Cup Finals, which they lost under kind of dubious circumstances. Both teams are now firmly in a rut of suckitude.

EDIT- They also had an NBA team that went on to become the Clippers. That's just embarrassing :P

Two Stanley Cup Final losses! Other than that, I pretty much echo the rest. I think Cleveland's had less success than Buffalo, although it's foggy because the team mix is different. But still, the flip side of losing the four Super Bowls is that you get to root for a really awesome team all season, so I think never going is worse.
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My personal sports situation is pretty bad.

My last title was the Pistons in 2004, which was pretty special, but they're now absolutely terrible.

I do have a soft spot for the Wings as my hometown team, but they're not my primary hockey team so their cups didn't do much for me.

The Habs won in 1993, which I don't really remember only being 7 and have been mediocre at best since.

The Tigers keep breaking my heart. I mean they've still got a big window of opportunity.

And then there's the Lions...

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It's pretty much a toss up between Cleveland and Buffalo I think.

Cleveland

Indians

Last title- 1948

Playoffs- 8 times in past 20 years (relatively good)

X Factor- losing the 1997 World Series after leading in the 9th inning of game 7 (giant kick in the you-know-whats)

Browns

Superbowls- none (not counting league titles)

No playoffs in 12 seasons

X Factor- losing the original Browns to Baltimore, where they won the superbowl 3 seasons later and and again in 2013

Cavs

No titles

Finals appearance in 2007

X Factor- losing Lebron in his prime

Buffalo

Bills

Superbowls- none

No playoffs in 14 seasons

X Factor- Advanced to 4 straight superbowls, lost them all

Sabres

Stanley Cups- none

Playoffs 11 of past 20 seasons, have remained relatively competitive up until recently

X Factor- 1999 Cup finals Triple overtime Brett Hull 'illegal' goal that clinched the Stars' Cup

This is a very, very close match up. I can't call it.

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The winner for most tortured city is.... Buffalo!

Of course, that means that Cleveland loses yet again, therefore overtaking Buffalo for most tortured city.

So it's Cleveland!

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Nashville has never won a Championship in history in all Pro Sports (including Soccer) They came up one yard short in Super Bowl XXXIV

The Nashville Sounds have won 2 Southern League Titles and 1 Pacific Coast League title.

On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said:
Today, we are all otaku.

"The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert

POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010

The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy)

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