New United Kingdom flag proposals

[Waffles]

Via The Atlantic:

Long after the Empire's collapse, the Union Jack remains an internationally recognized symbol of Britain. But all that could change soon. Scotland, one of the four countries that make up the United Kingdom (along with England, Northern Ireland, and Wales), will hold a referendum on independence this September. If it succeeds, Britain's iconic flag may need a makeover.

Here are some of the ideas handling the subtraction of Scotland and the addition of Wales to the iconic British flag from the article:

[Davidson]

Im fairly sure they'll just keep it the same.

[CubsFanBudMan]

The one that isn't posted here makes the most sense. Swap blue (Scotland) for black (Wales).

[SFGiants58]

I'd use this as an opportunity to ditch the cross of St. Patrick as well, as it makes sense both aesthetically (no cross of St. Andrew to match) and politically (the Red Hand of Ulster better represents Northern Ireland, which consists of most of the Ulster province, and the cross of St. Patrick calls to mind the parts of Ireland now in the Republic of Ireland). It would be better to just go with the Dragon and the Red Hand of Ulster, like this:

[wildwing64]

If this one is used, we'll have to change the National Anthem to "God Save our Eyes."

[pheer]

I was about to come in to make a new thread, but seeing this here, I'll drop this off here. I saw that the UK has a National Charity dedicated to the registration and usage of flags.

http://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/

I thought many here might find it interesting.

PS - Count me in on those who had a seizure from that psychedelic flag.

[hettinger_rl]

Would the countries that use a small version of the Union Jack need to update as well?

[Pharos04]

here's how it could look with the Black from the Flag of St. David that can be used to represent Wales. It keeps the general concept but almost looks like a flag of mourning at this point. It also keeps the white saltire from the Scottish flag which wouldn't make too much sense.

It would be interesting if Scotland votes to separate from the UK and what happenes to the Union Jack since it's remained relatively the same since 1801

[Sport Billy]

If this one is used, we'll have to change the National Anthem to "God Save our Eyes."

It's reminiscent of an old Dead Kennedy's sticker.

[neo_prankster]

Personally I prefer the current Union Jack.

[Nyk33]

Im fairly sure they'll just keep it the same.

Why would they keep it the same if they were to loose Scotland?

Great Britain would look silly keeping the Union Jack with St. Andrew's cross on it.

[Jaffa]

Im fairly sure they'll just keep it the same.

Why would they keep it the same if they were to loose Scotland?

I believe that Scotland intends to keep the Queen as Head Of State if they gain independence, apparently that gives grounds to keep the Saltire on the Union Jack for some constitutional reason or other.

[Nyk33]

Im fairly sure they'll just keep it the same.

Why would they keep it the same if they were to loose Scotland?

I believe that Scotland intends to keep the Queen as Head Of State if they gain independence, apparently that gives grounds to keep the Saltire on the Union Jack for some constitutional reason or other.

Are you talking about the Devolution Max option or something else?

[Jaffa]

Im fairly sure they'll just keep it the same.

Why would they keep it the same if they were to loose Scotland?

I believe that Scotland intends to keep the Queen as Head Of State if they gain independence, apparently that gives grounds to keep the Saltire on the Union Jack for some constitutional reason or other.

Are you talking about the Devolution Max option or something else?

I don't know the specifics to be honest. But 'Devolution Max' would be a great name for a mascot for the campaign. He could be a little cartoony chap in a kilt and sporran.

Sort it out, Alex Salmond.

[sc49erfan15]

Not-a-one of these posted so far looks good.

[TampaBayEverybodyLovesRays]

I think the second option makes the most sense (with green on the bottom). The last one appears to still feature the St. Andrew's Cross (Scotland)

[Berlin Wall]

If this one is used, we'll have to change the National Anthem to "God Save our Eyes."

This reminds me of this:

[marble21]

The flag just isn't going to change.

I think we are at a point now where the flag as a whole means more than the individual elements do from when it was first created. Hard to word correctly but hopefully you catch my drift.

It is just too recognisable a symbol too.

[speedy]

Im fairly sure they'll just keep it the same.

Why would they keep it the same if they were to loose Scotland?

Great Britain would look silly keeping the Union Jack with St. Andrew's cross on it.

Why? Both St. George and St. Patrick's crosses are red on white. On the Union Jack St. George's is outlined in white, why not just apply the same treatment to St. Patrick's? AKA leave the flag alone, no need for a change.

[Nyk33]

Im fairly sure they'll just keep it the same.

Why would they keep it the same if they were to loose Scotland?

Great Britain would look silly keeping the Union Jack with St. Andrew's cross on it.

Why? Both St. George and St. Patrick's crosses are red on white. On the Union Jack St. George's is outlined in white, why not just apply the same treatment to St. Patrick's? AKA leave the flag alone, no need for a change.

Because we both know that the reason why the X shaped cross on the Union Flag is oriented in the unique way that it is with the red and white portions split up like that.

If you wanted to just make it so that the St. Patrick's cross has a white outline like the St. George's then you are still going have to make alterations because it's going to look comical if you don't. Especially if someone asks why the X shaped cross is colored so strangely and then you have to strange why the flag of a country that is no longer included in the United Kingdom.