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So what bowl does the winner of Houston-Temple go to? It'll be an embarrassingly-low turnout from Philadelphia if Temple makes it.

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Good ol 75 cent Devils. Always coming up a quarter short. It's ridiculous how many times they've blown two or three TD leads this season.

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Sorry, Ohio State fans.

Not sorry.

KU's 0-12 record sums up the season quite well.

Kansas did not even try

Do you think any team wants to go down in the record books 0-12? These guys were trying, they just don't have the talent or coaching to win a game.

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So Oklahoma is definitely in. Clemson is in with a win, Alabama is in with a win, the Big Ten winner is in.

I'm curious to see where Stanford/Ohio State/possible ACC Champ UNC end up and which of them sneaks in should Clemson or Alabama lose (assuming Stanford wins). Ohio State's been unimpressive all season save for a big win on the road against Michigan but I could see them getting a little love for being the defending champs, though not playing this week and not being a conference champ should hurt them. Stanford would be a conference champ with some big wins and not bad losses, but they'd have two losses to Ohio State's one. UNC has a bad loss and no overly impressive wins, but would be ACC Champ . I suspect Stanford would get the nod. A one-loss Iowa would be done for no matter what, I think. I think Ohio State is out unless Alabama loses.

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So Oklahoma is definitely in. Clemson is in with a win, Alabama is in with a win, the Big Ten winner is in.

I'm curious to see where Stanford/Ohio State/possible ACC Champ UNC end up and which of them sneaks in should Clemson or Alabama lose (assuming Stanford wins). Ohio State's been unimpressive all season save for a big win on the road against Michigan but I could see them getting a little love for being the defending champs, though not playing this week and not being a conference champ should hurt them. Stanford would be a conference champ with some big wins and not bad losses, but they'd have two losses to Ohio State's one. UNC has a bad loss and no overly impressive wins, but would be ACC Champ . I suspect Stanford would get the nod. A one-loss Iowa would be done for no matter what, I think.

If UNC defeats Clemson, here's what is left (partially)...

11-1 from the B1G that didn't make the CCG with no top 10 wins (though a win over a then-#10)...Ohio State

11-1 from the B1G that lost the CCG and no top 10 wins...Iowa

10-2 Pac-12 champion with no top 10 wins (though a win over a then-#6)..Stanford

10-2 ACC team that didn't make the CCG...Florida State

UNC has two FCS wins, so in total discussion only count one of those.

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Yeah with things as they are, I don't see the committee pulling a TCU on the the Big XII again, especially on Oklahoma of all schools. I don't necessarily think they should be, but I'd say Oklahoma is in.

B1G champion (Iowa or Michigan State) is in.

And if Clemson and Alabama win, they're both in, and that's your four.

For your other possibles, really depends on how highly the committee values conference champions, as they stated last year, and how do they view your losses or the then-vs-currently ranked teams.

Ohio State isn't a conference champ, but only has one loss (a tight loss to the possible conference champ/playoff team) with only one win over a (then or currently) ranked team. Could depend on where they sit in this week's rankings to possibly slide up with no way of actually pushing themselves in position. Buckeyes were #8 while #6 ND and #7 Baylor lost, but #9 Stanford beat #6 ND.

Stanford could be a conference champ, but will have two losses (to two currently ranked teams at #16/17, though). Three wins over then-ranked teams (#6 USC, #18 UCLA, #6 ND) and could be four. Depends if USC is ranked this week or the how they beat USC, if they do.

UNC could be a conference champ, but with one loss and one win over then-23rd Pitt until possibly beating the #1 team in the country. Depends on where they end up in this week's rankings as well for how far they could jump. They were #14 but #12 Flordia, #11 Oklahoma State and #10 Michigan lost (as well as 6/7) however #13 Florida State also won big over #12.

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For me, I'd rank the possibles (should Clemson or Alabama fall) as Stanford, Ohio State, then North Carolina. But i wouldn't be surprised if the committee vaulted UNC in with a win over Clemson, being a conference champ with only one loss (in Week 1) and beating the #1 in every ranking thus far. I could see it.

However, I think we have our four right now.

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So Oklahoma is definitely in. Clemson is in with a win, Alabama is in with a win, the Big Ten winner is in.

I'm curious to see where Stanford/Ohio State/possible ACC Champ UNC end up and which of them sneaks in should Clemson or Alabama lose (assuming Stanford wins). Ohio State's been unimpressive all season save for a big win on the road against Michigan but I could see them getting a little love for being the defending champs, though not playing this week and not being a conference champ should hurt them. Stanford would be a conference champ with some big wins and not bad losses, but they'd have two losses to Ohio State's one. UNC has a bad loss and no overly impressive wins, but would be ACC Champ . I suspect Stanford would get the nod. A one-loss Iowa would be done for no matter what, I think.

If UNC defeats Clemson, here's what is left (partially)...

11-1 from the B1G that didn't make the CCG with no top 10 wins (though a win over a then-#10)...Ohio State

11-1 from the B1G that lost the CCG and no top 10 wins...Iowa

10-2 Pac-12 champion with no top 10 wins (though a win over a then-#6)..Stanford

10-2 ACC team that didn't make the CCG...Florida State

UNC has two FCS wins, so in total discussion only count one of those.

Top 10 wins is just about the worst way to judge things, considering not even clemson or alabama have one (though i don't think alabama should be in the top 4 anyway).

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I'm not sure how anybody could not have Alabama in the top four at this point, especially given their strength of schedule. What's your reason, Viking?

As for Oklahoma, they have a very bad loss, but they've looked like the best team in the country since that loss. If it comes down to their resume against an unimpressive-until-last-week Ohio State or two-loss Stanford, it's a no-brainer.

Like I said, I think Ohio State should need Alabama and Clemson to lose to make it, but even then, I'm not sure how the committee could justify them over UNC (I have this bad feeling undeservingly OSU sneaks their way in with a Clemson loss, though. UNC can beat Clemson -- I don't think they will, though -- but with their QB situation, Florida isn't beating Alabama. No way, no how.

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Around here, you'd gave thought Alabama and Oklahoma played terribly. As someone who is an unbiased college football fan (although I do enjoy seeing Alabama fall every once in a while), I can say that the Ohio State fans around here are EXTREMELY buased. So much so that it's almost as if they're watching a completely different set of games. One friend, 15, says Alabama should be number 5 after their WIN against Auburn. He and his dad talk as if they're already planning their trip to the Orange/Cotton Bowl because they're so sure Florida - who lost by 25 to Florida State and squeaked by FAU & Vandy - will beat Alabama, opening the door for Ohio State to get in. They,also think Oklahoma won't get in simply because they're a Big XII team, that NIU would be good in any Power 5 conference, and that no Alabama or Ohio State in this year's playoff will automatically create an 8 team playoff for the 2016 season.

Now, I do agree with See Red that Oklahoma's loss to Texas was a bad one. Personally, I see it as OhioState's loss to Virginia Tech last season. I think that if Clemson & Alabama win, then tOSU is out.

If Clemson or Bama lose, then we've got a mess on our hands.

How about Stanford? Yes, they have two loses. However, as of right now, they should jump up to about 7th. With a Clemson, Bama, and either Iowa or Michigan State loss, what happens to the Cardinal? That would move them up about three spots to at least 4th behind Iowa/MSU, tOSU, & maybe UNC.

Overall, looking at the other posts, I think Still MIGHTY really hit the nail on the head, as our four playoff teams look to be pretty much set, given we don't have a flustercluck of a week.

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I'm not sure how anybody could not have Alabama in the top four at this point, especially given their strength of schedule. What's your reason, Viking?

As for Oklahoma, they have a very bad loss, but they've looked like the best team in the country since that loss. If it comes down to their resume against an unimpressive-until-last-week Ohio State or two-loss Stanford, it's a no-brainer.

Like I said, I think Ohio State should need Alabama and Clemson to lose to make it, but even then, I'm not sure how the committee could justify them over UNC (I have this bad feeling undeservingly OSU sneaks their way in with a Clemson loss, though. UNC can beat Clemson -- I don't think they will, though -- but with their QB situation, Florida isn't beating Alabama. No way, no how.

Because depending on the rankings on tuesday, they might not have a single win over a ranked team. Their best win is against Mississippi state, who got throttled by the team that beat bama. Frankly I'm not sure how you put bama ahead of Michigan State, who should be number 1 right now. No even comes close to their resume. If they beat Iowa they should be the number 1 seed, easily. Right now

1. Michigan State

2. Clemson

3. Iowa

4. Oklahoma

5. Alabama

6. Stanford

Alabama just doesn't have any great wins. They have plenty of good wins, but none that really stand out.

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I'm not sure how anybody could not have Alabama in the top four at this point, especially given their strength of schedule. What's your reason, Viking?

As for Oklahoma, they have a very bad loss, but they've looked like the best team in the country since that loss. If it comes down to their resume against an unimpressive-until-last-week Ohio State or two-loss Stanford, it's a no-brainer.

Like I said, I think Ohio State should need Alabama and Clemson to lose to make it, but even then, I'm not sure how the committee could justify them over UNC (I have this bad feeling undeservingly OSU sneaks their way in with a Clemson loss, though. UNC can beat Clemson -- I don't think they will, though -- but with their QB situation, Florida isn't beating Alabama. No way, no how.

Because depending on the rankings on tuesday, they might not have a single win over a ranked team. Their best win is against Mississippi state, who got throttled by the team that beat bama. Frankly I'm not sure how you put bama ahead of Michigan State, who should be number 1 right now. No even comes close to their resume. If they beat Iowa they should be the number 1 seed, easily. Right now

1. Michigan State

2. Clemson

3. Iowa

4. Oklahoma

5. Alabama

6. Stanford

Alabama just doesn't have any great wins. They have plenty of good wins, but none that really stand out.

They'll probably have two -- LSU and Wisconsin. They've come out of the best division in the country, have the fifth best strength of schedule, and the best strength of record. Florida will be their 11th opponent with a winning record and they've clearly passed the eye test. Plus, there's only three other teams, I believe, that have a chance to be a conference champion with less than one loss, so there's only three teams you can really justify placing above them. Who would you place above them? One loss Ohio State who's not even playing for their conference title and who's strength of schedule is far less impressive? Two loss Stanford? Either MSU or Iowa will not be a conference champion.

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