2015 NCAA Football Thread

[DS729]

I'm sorry, I worded that poorly. I meant that all of the one loss teams are conference champs. I kinda half expected OSU to jump Oklahoma because their one loss was stronger than the Sooners one loss (Texas beating Baylor yesterday morning probably put that one to bed, though) and they justified leaving the Big 12 out last year because of the Championship game thing.

I just didn't want there to be any possibility that we'd be stuck with an MSU OSU national Title game.

Everyone seems to forget that Baylor and TCU TIED last year, so because there wasn't one champion they left them out. This year is different because OU was the OUTRIGHT winner of the conference, therefore no way in the world would a non conference champ jump a conference champ.

I don't get people saying that they were "tied". The tiebreaker was the head-to-head matchup, therefore Baylor was the conference champion. That's how it's always worked, one Big 12 team went to the Fiesta Bowl, not two.

Michigan State and Iowa both have won conference loss, the difference is that Michigan State beat Iowa, but no one is claiming that they are "tied". Yes, I know they had a conference championship game but it's silly to claim that they were "tied" when there was a clear tiebreaker that gave Baylor the nod. Maybe that's just me being dumb, but a team shouldn't be penalized because they come from a conference without a championship game.

[FiddySicks]

Do you mean the 2015 Fiesta Bowl? Because that was PAC 12 vs MWC.

And yeah, last year Baylor and TCU were simply victims of their circumstance. It definitely sucks that the two non traditional schools ended up getting the shaft due that last year while traditional boring ass Oklahoma had a clear path this season, but thems the shakes.

[Gary]

Arizona State gets a home game(Chase Field technically) for a Bowl game as they play West Virginia in the Cactus Bowl.

Edit: Michigan and Florida play in the Citrus Bowl as well. Final score 6-3 as defense will control that game.

[DarkJourney]

Some decent bowl match-ups for the Pac-12:

Rose Bowl: Stanford vs. Iowa

Alamo Bowl: Oregon vs. TCU

Holiday Bowl: USC vs. Wisconsin

Sun Bowl: Washington State vs. Miami

Foster Farms Bowl: UCLA vs. Nebraska

Las Vegas Bowl: Utah vs. BYU

Armed Forces Bowl: California vs. Air Force

Cactus Bowl: Arizona State vs. West Virginia

New Mexico Bowl: Arizona vs. New Mexico

Heart of Dallas Bowl: Washington vs. Southern Miss

I think this is the first time in Bay Area college football history that all 3 division I schools (Cal, Stanford & San Jose State) will play in a bowl game during the same season.

[hailstateunis]

SEC Bowl Games:

Cotton: Alabama vs Michigan State

Sugar: Ole Miss vs Oklahoma State

Citrus: Florida vs Michigan

Outback: Tennessee vs Northwestern

Belk: Mississippi State vs NC State

Texas: LSU vs Texas Tech

Taxslayer: Georgia vs Penn State

Music City: Texas A&M vs Louisville

Liberty: Arkansas vs Kansas State

Birmingham: Auburn vs Memphis

[See Red]

I'm sorry, I worded that poorly. I meant that all of the one loss teams are conference champs. I kinda half expected OSU to jump Oklahoma because their one loss was stronger than the Sooners one loss (Texas beating Baylor yesterday morning probably put that one to bed, though) and they justified leaving the Big 12 out last year because of the Championship game thing.

I just didn't want there to be any possibility that we'd be stuck with an MSU OSU national Title game.

Everyone seems to forget that Baylor and TCU TIED last year, so because there wasn't one champion they left them out. This year is different because OU was the OUTRIGHT winner of the conference, therefore no way in the world would a non conference champ jump a conference champ.

I don't get people saying that they were "tied". The tiebreaker was the head-to-head matchup, therefore Baylor was the conference champion. That's how it's always worked, one Big 12 team went to the Fiesta Bowl, not two.

Michigan State and Iowa both have won conference loss, the difference is that Michigan State beat Iowa, but no one is claiming that they are "tied". Yes, I know they had a conference championship game but it's silly to claim that they were "tied" when there was a clear tiebreaker that gave Baylor the nod. Maybe that's just me being dumb, but a team shouldn't be penalized because they come from a conference without a championship game.

There wasn't a clear tie breaker as far as the conference is concerned. They named the teams co-champions so, in essence, they tied.

[Raysfan12]

I will take it with the Music City Bowl against Texas A&M.

[Midway]

Texas: LSU vs Texas Tech

Sigh. Tune in for a record breaking performance by Fournette.

[See Red]

For the playoff, I think Alabama beats Michigan State while Oklahoma beats Clemson -- Oklahoma then beats Alabama for the National Championship. Alabama's beatable, but I don't think it will be done by a pro style offense.

I'm excited for Florida vs. Michigan, but I think it'll be like Florida's last two games -- the defense plays well enough to make it a game for three quarters but eventually, the offenses inability to sustain drives and score points costs them the game and the score ends up a bit more lopsided than the actual play on the field was.

[BlackBolt3]

Your three Heisman finalists: Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, Deshaun Watson. Surprised no Keenan Reynolds or Baker Mayfield, but that's just me.

[Geoff]

Heisman invites are weird. Did Henry have over 80% of the votes? Because that's the only reason I can think of. When Jameis won it, he had 80ish% of the votes and they had 6 invitees.

[VikingsNotMinnesota]

Henry winning the heisman would be a total travesty, yet we all know it's going to happen.

[See Red]

Henry winning the heisman would be a total travesty, yet we all know it's going to happen.

Agreed. I think the big argument for him would be TDs, which is an area in which he as a pretty significant edge over McCaffery, but McCaffrey should be the runaway choice, in my opinion.

[HedleyLamarr]

Henry winning the heisman would be a total travesty, yet we all know it's going to happen.

Agreed. I think the big argument for him would be TDs, which is an area in which he as a pretty significant edge over McCaffery, but McCaffrey should be the runaway choice, in my opinion.

Out of curiosity, what's the argument against Henry? Hope it's something more than "Anyone could do that with Alabama" or some sort of "Anyone But Alabama/The SEC". Using one of those arguments is a pretty lame route to take.

[rams80]

Henry winning the heisman would be a total travesty, yet we all know it's going to happen.

Agreed. I think the big argument for him would be TDs, which is an area in which he as a pretty significant edge over McCaffery, but McCaffrey should be the runaway choice, in my opinion.

Out of curiosity, what's the argument against Henry? Hope it's something more than "Anyone could do that with Alabama" or some sort of "Anyone But Alabama/The SEC". Using one of those arguments is a pretty lame route to take.

With Alabama's line and comparative lack of a passing game, it's true, though. We've been through this song and dance with "Alabama RB" before.

Also the raw numbers get distorted when you hand it to a player 40 times a game.

[See Red]

Henry winning the heisman would be a total travesty, yet we all know it's going to happen.

Agreed. I think the big argument for him would be TDs, which is an area in which he as a pretty significant edge over McCaffery, but McCaffrey should be the runaway choice, in my opinion.

Out of curiosity, what's the argument against Henry? Hope it's something more than "Anyone could do that with Alabama" or some sort of "Anyone But Alabama/The SEC". Using one of those arguments is a pretty lame route to take.

I have no issue against Derrick Henry, really. I just think McCaffrey has had the better season in breaking Barry Sander's single season yardage leader, leading second place this season by over 1,000 yards, and being a factor in more than just the rushing game.

[VikingsNotMinnesota]

Henry winning the heisman would be a total travesty, yet we all know it's going to happen.

Agreed. I think the big argument for him would be TDs, which is an area in which he as a pretty significant edge over McCaffery, but McCaffrey should be the runaway choice, in my opinion.

Out of curiosity, what's the argument against Henry? Hope it's something more than "Anyone could do that with Alabama" or some sort of "Anyone But Alabama/The SEC". Using one of those arguments is a pretty lame route to take.

It's not, because it's true. Also McCaffery kinda had possibly the greatest single season by a running back ever. That's a thing too.

[H11K]

I'm sorry, I worded that poorly. I meant that all of the one loss teams are conference champs. I kinda half expected OSU to jump Oklahoma because their one loss was stronger than the Sooners one loss (Texas beating Baylor yesterday morning probably put that one to bed, though) and they justified leaving the Big 12 out last year because of the Championship game thing.

I just didn't want there to be any possibility that we'd be stuck with an MSU OSU national Title game.

Everyone seems to forget that Baylor and TCU TIED last year, so because there wasn't one champion they left them out. This year is different because OU was the OUTRIGHT winner of the conference, therefore no way in the world would a non conference champ jump a conference champ.

I don't get people saying that they were "tied". The tiebreaker was the head-to-head matchup, therefore Baylor was the conference champion. That's how it's always worked, one Big 12 team went to the Fiesta Bowl, not two.

Michigan State and Iowa both have won conference loss, the difference is that Michigan State beat Iowa, but no one is claiming that they are "tied". Yes, I know they had a conference championship game but it's silly to claim that they were "tied" when there was a clear tiebreaker that gave Baylor the nod. Maybe that's just me being dumb, but a team shouldn't be penalized because they come from a conference without a championship game.

There wasn't a clear tie breaker as far as the conference is concerned. They named the teams co-champions so, in essence, they tied.

Yeah exactly, the head to head was not used last year. And yeah no Big 12 team was in the Fiesta bowl last year. that was Zona vs Boise

[HedleyLamarr]

Henry winning the heisman would be a total travesty, yet we all know it's going to happen.

Agreed. I think the big argument for him would be TDs, which is an area in which he as a pretty significant edge over McCaffery, but McCaffrey should be the runaway choice, in my opinion.

Out of curiosity, what's the argument against Henry? Hope it's something more than "Anyone could do that with Alabama" or some sort of "Anyone But Alabama/The SEC". Using one of those arguments is a pretty lame route to take.

It's not, because it's true. Also McCaffery kinda had possibly the greatest single season by a running back ever. That's a thing too.

Well, let's not confuse the stats here.

Can't really play the "greatest single season by a running back" line when another RB ran for more yards in the same season. Single season all-purpose yardage leader isn't really a positional stat.

With Alabama's line and comparative lack of a passing game, it's true, though. We've been through this song and dance with "Alabama RB" before.

Also the raw numbers get distorted when you hand it to a player 40 times a game.

That would only strengthen Henry's case, wouldn't it? With defenses (especially SEC defenses....while nowhere near as stout as years past, they're still as good as any other conference, at worst) putting the focus on stopping the run, to still be the nation's top rusher should be quite the feather in his cap.

[dfwabel]

No market for Peach Bowl tickets.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/peach-bowl-ticket-prices-low-without-sec/